Bernie Sanders Team Claims They Can PROVE DNC Is In Collusion With Hillary

[Segami]

It just keeps getting better and better. The Bernie Sanders campaign said they can prove that the Democratic National Committee and Debbie Wasserman Schultz are conspiring to ensure Hillary Clinton is the party’s nomination for president. Overnight, the DNC announced they would no longer suspend the Sanders campaign for accessing Hillary’s campaign voter information when a firewall wend down on the DNC Server.

The Sanders staffer who poked around for several hours looking at Clinton’s records was fired, but Sanders’ team threatened a lawsuit if access wasn’t restored. It was, and it seemed all was copacetic. But the Sanders campaign isn’t giving up the lawsuit and on MSNBC, campaign chairman Jeff Weaver, said the DNC is desperate to settle out of court, The Washington Post is reporting.

“I’m happy to provide it to anybody in the media, which will demonstrate that, of course, what the chairwoman said was absolutely false,” Weaver said. “We have responded with information. If they wanted additional information, they certainly should have let us know.”

Weaver also suggested the DNC was likely to settle the case because they were afraid of what might come out in the discovery process of the legal proceedings.

“We will get access to all the internal communications of the DNC where we can demonstrate what I think most people think is going on, which is that there are some people in there who are clearly trying to help the Clinton campaign,” he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/19/deal-reached-between-sanders-and-dnc-doesnt-do-away-with-the-disdain/

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/sanders-team-claims-they-can-prove-dnc-is-in-collusion-with-hillary/

[NowSam]

1. Collusion

pass the popcorn.

[Duckfan]

45. Sure thing.

[pnwmom]

89. Typical lawyer talk. He knows nothing, has no evidence, but he's got lots of SUSPICIONS

that he's sure will be borne out if only he can get hold of some DNC smoking gun.

[Fawke Em]

104. They have evidence.

The first thing you learn in law school: never ask a question for which you already don't know the answer.

I suspect they have answers.

And, since the DNC backed down and reinstated the access, I'm betting they know it, too.

[pnwmom]

106. No, the first thing they learn how to do is bluff. n/t

[Fawke Em]

108. Filing a federal lawsuit is moving beyond bluffing. eom

[pnwmom]

109. The lawsuit to get them to enforce the contract is one thing. I think they were right about that.

The bluff is in his pretending that he knows he'll find all sorts of damning conspiracy stuff in discovery.

[paleotn]

116. Wrong....

....the stakes are far too high at this point for anyone to make these kind of accusations without hard evidence. And it's too early to roll the dice as you suggested. Way too early for desperation moves. From the HRC campaigns point of view, if Bernie's campaign is bluffing, they can easily call it and have nothing to worry about in discovery...unless there is something damaging to be discovered. If there's nothing there, it's an easy win for HRC and very damaging to Bernie. In short Bernie's people wouldn't be making this move now unless they have very damning evidence.

[pnwmom]

123. Oh yeah? What would he have to lose? He rolls the dice and he gets his contract terms enforced,

but he doesn't find anything juicy in discovery. So what?

But any kind of ongoing lawsuit during the course of the campaign would hurt both campaigns and help the GOP. Which is not good for anyone.

[bvf]

141. Right. Spoken like somebody whose

own candidate's campaign is at serious risk. Sweating benefit to the GOP smacks of a desperate pose.

[JDPriestly]

156. No. The first thing you learn is to view a problem from as many points of view as possible.

The Sanders campaign suffered damage in various respects from the DNC Clinton actions.

It is in the interest of the Sanders campaign to have a public investigation of what happened. That is in part because the Sanders campaign had no control over who was allowed to access what in the databases, but very obviously the DNC's vendor did.

One of many questions is the extent of Clinton's ties and MAYBE even influence over the company that manages the database.

Terrible allegations and insinuations were made by the DNC against Bernie's canpaign which seeks tp run a highly ethical operation.

The investigation should be performed by neutral investigators and in the open to the extent possible.

The DNC cannot do this on its own.

Lawyers learn to look at things with an open mind and to know all the evidence.

When a lawyer realizes that his or her client is partly or totally at fault, he or she if wise thinks about how to settle the dispute. That is precisely wwphat the DNC did.

That is where we are. And lawyers are peacemakers although not normally thought of in that light.

A society without law, without lawyers and courts, without justice, is a society that is violence.

The contempt for law and lawyers in some circles in our country is one of the reasons we have so much violence.

If we had more justice including economic justice, we would have less violence.

[Nite Owl]

143. things are beginning to fall into place n/t

[msanthrope]

144. Oh, lordy, no. That's not the first thing we teach. nt

[George II]

124. Although he went to law school, I don't think he every practiced law...

...his last job prior to joining Sanders' presidential campaign was a real life version of Stuart Bloom of "Big Bang Theory":

"In 2010, Weaver left Sanders' office and started a comic book store in Falls Church, Virginia, called Victory Comics."

https://ballotpedia.org/Jeff_Weaver

[pnwmom]

126. Interesting. Thanks!

[MADem]

172. Is he a lawyer?

I know he owns a comic book store (no, not joking about that, either--he's not a professional NATIONAL campaign manager/chief of staff, and it shows--yelling at people is not the way to win anything but a good view of the backs of people as they walk away).

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-jeff-weaver-victory-comics

Meet the Comic Book King Running Bernie Sanders' Campaign
Jeff Weaver is the Robin to Bernie's Batman.

....His is an unconventional campaign, so it was only logical that in May he picked an unconventional operative to run it—the owner of a comic book shop. A longtime Sanders friend and advisor, Jeff Weaver had worked on Sanders' campaigns and in his Washington offices for more than two decades. But before he came on board Bernie 2016, Weaver had retired from politics to launch one of the DC-area's biggest gaming businesses.

Weaver met Sanders in 1986, when the then-mayor of Burlington was running for governor as an independent. Weaver had just returned home to Vermont after being suspended from Boston University for unveiling an anti-apartheid banner in his dorm room across from the school president's office. Sanders' unabashedly lefty politics struck a chord, and Weaver volunteered to drive Sanders around the state as he campaigned (unsuccessfully) for governor. A few years later Weaver launched a campaign of his own, running for alderman in his hometown of St. Albans. He lost, conceding the race with a decidedly super-villainish pronouncement: "People haven't seen the last of Jeff Weaver."

After Sanders was elected to the House in 1991, Weaver joined his staff as legislative assistant, eventually working his way up to chief of staff. He managed Sanders' successful 2006 Senate campaign, staying on as the senator's right-hand-man. But after a few more years on the Hill, Weaver decided he needed a break from politics. He'd spent decades building up his own comic-book collection, and during his down time, he'd often travel to conventions to hock his wares and hunt for bargains. In 2009, a few months after leaving Sanders' office, Weaver opened Victory Comics in Falls Church, Virginia. "Sometimes you need to recharge your batteries a little bit," Weaver says. "This was something I always wanted to do."

"Truth, justice, and the American way—that's Bernie," Weaver says. "It's also associated with Superman."
The 3,500-square-foot shop features new releases, back issues (the most expensive item in the shop right now is a $5,500 copy of Hulk No. 1), and a back room for games ranging from Settlers of Catan to Fortress America, which—stop me if you've heard this one—postulates an invasion of the United States by European socialists. Business is good. On a typical Wednesday night, 60 people might show up for Victory's Magic: the Gathering, Heroclix, and Dungeons and Dragons competitions. It's the largest combined comic and gaming space inside the Beltway....

[senz]

93. Alan Grayson DENIES that he endorsed Hillary.

He said so on yesterday's Thom Hartmann show.

I know it's unrelated but wanted to get it out here where everyone can see it.

Here we go. I found a link:

http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/rep-alan-grayson-i-did-not-endorse-hillary

Oh, and here's the video:

[Enthusiast]

98. Maybe he got my message.

[MisterP]

101. if you can't arm-twist your way into endorsements, just make 'em up!

[Duval]

113. I heard that ,too. Thanks, senz.

[Hiraeth]

130. Thanks for posting that. n/t

[George II]

135. I honestly don't think Clinton wants Alan Grayson's endorsement. Who would these days?

[Marie S.]

173. HRC Data Breach

I imagine what they are looking into is the MASSIVE number of voter information files that HRC stole!

Mine was one of them and there are LOTS of people reporting they got the WELCOME TO THE HILLARY CAMPAIGN GIVE US A $1, campaign letter thanking us for "joining and supporting" HRC!

Her campaign is the one who stole the info!! Mine was stolen in October during the first breach.....I am reading from a HUGE number of people that they also had their information stolen by Hillary Clinton.

STAY TUNED.....

[Blue_Adept]

2. Yup, he's the trump on the Democratic side this cycle.

He's sticking to his independent side and attacking the structure and infrastructure of the Democratic party.

Plenty of years worth of criticism on his part and now his chance to break them is in play.

[nc4bo]

6. LOL!

[Scootaloo]

28. Funny, it's the DNC that keeps getting republicans elected.

[MissDeeds]

37. Yep

Perhaps they want to destroy the party from within. From the divide here on DU, it seems to be working.

[Ferd Berfel]

119. True. You'd almost think it was..............

[newthinking]

42. Pointing out what is essentially a form of corruption (IMO) is not a bad thing

The DNC has been using their power and influence to favor one candidate over the other and now it looks like dirty tricks may be involved.

That is part of the problem most democrats are against.

[roguevalley]

67. if you really believe in democratic politics and the things our country

espouses, no one on either side should fear this investigation and its outcome. If he's wrong, he looks bad and hell will be the outcome. If he's right, it exposes a crime, the willful attempt to ensure that a candidate wins over the will of the people. If you believe in democracy and America, you will support and find comfort in both sides of the outcome. If not, well, look up cult in the dictionary. IMHO.

[Enthusiast]

100. Huge +1!

[Ferd Berfel]

122. My money is on Bernie

Feel the Bern

[Hiraeth]

129. agree.

[ms liberty]

148. +1 - very well said. n/t

[Phlem]

114. Brilliant!

Thank You for that!

[Blue_Adept]

115. At least someone gets it ;)

[Phlem]

134. You know it.

Sometimes the logically challenged might distract but we're still here. Looking forward to hear more from ya.

[riversedge]

155. If, indeed, that

is his intent--and sure seems like it at times, the it is selfish to do so (mild term, I know). So much is at stake--health care, reproductive rights, the supreme court. --the list goes on and on.

[randys1]

3. And Bernie supporters will use this to bash the holy hell out of Hillary, Hillary supporters

will use this to bash the holy hell out of Bernie, and like I said before, GOP wins.

When you ALL decide what is important, and that it isnt personalities, we might get somewhere.

Until then both sides are now feeding into the GOP agenda.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251912819

I dont enjoy always being right about the most important stuff...It is lonely

[highprincipleswork]

10. We deserve a fair and impartial DNC that serves the Democratic Oarty

The Democratic Party is not served by a biased DNC running a rigged nomination, or even one that many, even outside observers, see as rigged.

Until they fix this, I don't expect and I don't want Bernie, his campaign, or his supporters to quit shouting for what is right. If that dismays those who support Hillary, I am mystified, and can only explain it by thinking they would like to win no matter what. No matter whether it's a fair competition.

[erronis]

48. Absolutely. It appears that the Clintons decided they "owned" the democratic party

And went way too far to exercise their perogative.

Too bad that DU has established itself as a forum for the DLC/DNC instead of holding to it's professed role of being for Democrats. Not just DWS-affiliated dems.

[Betty Karlson]

25. Nice repackaging of the "be afraid of the GOP, settle for Clinton" argument.

But I have become impervious to that message. It has been used too many times.

[dogknob]

38. As a resident of California, I concur.

It's always been Feinstein or a basket of asps.

[Scootaloo]

33. The DNC is supposed to be impartially supportive of all Democratic candidates.

if it is not acting in such a manner it is violating hte trust bestowed on it by Democratic voters. if the party apparatus is acting to anoint a chosen One, and actively working against other contenders, then the Democratic party is no longer democratic, it is self-serving and nepotistic.

I see no point in blind, reverent worship of a party organization. Especially if that organization is working against me and my interests. And don't use the GOP as a boogeyman, at least the RNC manages its impartiality obligations to Republican voters. if we can't be better than them on even that most basic point, what the fuck are we doing?

[Plucketeer]

54. Really?

Silly me. I've assumed for YEARS that the title "Democratic" was devised to suggest folks who hold the principles of democracy foremost - not the confines of obedience. Sump'n new to learn every day.

[randys1]

91. I am way too liberal for the dem party, but I look at the big picture,

[Fantastic Anarchist]

131. The big picture is severely warped.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

127. You're definitely not right.

We just don't want our views hijacked anymore.

[jwirr]

4. Go for it Bernie. Investigate what really happened. The DNC

does not belong to Hillary and DWS. It belongs to all of us in the Democratic Party and we want to know.

[Attorney in Texas]

5. k+r

[Paka]

77. Good one!

[Oldtimeralso]

171. K & R, A good one JD n/t

[DUbeornot2be]

7. I love it...

... when bullies are confronted with truth.

This will be fun to watch the corporate shills spin...

The people have caught on that dws, hrc, and the mainstream media are all in cohoots to supress Bernie's message!

Go Bernie!

[rjsquirrel]

88. lol u believe

your own silly stories

[Fantastic Anarchist]

132. No, he or she believes in the truth.

[rjsquirrel]

133. A just so story

but the truth will out.

[JaneyVee]

8. You mean the campaign manager who keeps lying?

"Low level staffer". No, comm director.

"Alerted vendor in October". Nope, no record of that either.

"Didn't steal data". Sorry, again! http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/293643104/Sanders-Campaign-Audit-Sheet-1

[Segami]

9. Of course.....not a peep from you about the WaPo article.

Stay on message. Deflect the truth with continued word salads.

thanks for the bump!

[Leftyforever]

13. +1

almost like they are professional

[Broward]

18. I'm sure some of them are.

[Fawke Em]

105. I noticed that DWS said EXACTLY the same thing as some of the Hillary supporters here.

It was uncanny.

[libdem4life]

19. Uh oh, Word Salads...now who does that bring to mind? LOL

Here's another bump for you.

[pnwmom]

92. All the article says is that he THINKS he'll find evidence if only he can get hold

of their papers through the process of discovery.

Just typical lawyer talk. Smoke and mirrors unless and until he has an actual document to point to.

And since he's the one who said his top computer guy was just a low level staffer, he lost credibility at the very outset.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

15. Yes, didn't steal data - at least according to the vendor (NGP's CEO)

I have no particular horse in this race, but rather than rely upon a summary report leaked to the press, statements from the NGP CEO's published apology are probably a more accurate reflection (bolding mine):

...As noted below, users were unable to export lists of people...

...For a brief window, the voter data that is always searchable across campaigns in VoteBuilder included client scores it should not have, on a specific part of the VAN system. So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign...

...We look forward to supporting all our Democratic clients, and in particular apologize to the DNC, Clinton and Sanders campaigns for our bug Wednesday.

[JaneyVee]

16. They saved files, meaning....

There are a hundred other ways to keep data, like xerox copies for example. We'll never know.

[Agony]

17. Name 47 of them.

[JaneyVee]

20. Ok.

Xerox
Print
Photograph
Email
Dropbox
Text
Fax
Write
Memorize
Thumb drive
Hard drive
Flash drive
Encrypt
Direct message
Wire transfer

You get the point. We'll never know.

[Segami]

22. Yes...we'll never know whether Team Clinton didn't make use of any of your listed items.

I'm sure they did.......its your pick!

[Agony]

24. I set the bar real low, less than half, and you didn't even come close.

[notadmblnd]

31. Each and every one of those that you posted would leave a foot print and WE WOULD KNOW

Wrong answer, you lose. Please play again.

[mythology]

59. No, taking a picture of your computer screen would not leave a record in the computer

Likewise screen capture software wouldn't leave a record in the external system.

[notadmblnd]

65. There would be a footprint of capture software being used.

yes, taking a photo of the screen with your smart phone will leave a footprint also. However, it wouldn't be on the PC. It would be on the phone. If this is as serious as you all are making it out to be, then I would think that a subpoena would be issued for all user's smart phones to be confiscated and inspected.

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

29. The problem with mass media reporting of ID details

Again, NGP is VERY clear in its apology:

One must assume that when the NGP CEO stated "but not export or save or act on", he meant just that - if one tries to print a report, they get blank pages. If one then try to Xerox that empty report for example, s/he gets more blank pages.

According to NGP (not me - don't shoot the messenger) NOTHING was stolen.

NGP made a huge mistake for which they have taken full responsibility.

NGP evidently (and correctly IMHO) shut off access for ALL campaigns to the entire voter file until they fixed their mistake - good call.

The DNC evidently (and incorrectly IMHO) ordered NGP to freeze out ALL the Bernie campaign's access to NGP - not a good call, and not the legal remedy in the contract they signed with each campaign.

Hillary quite quickly (and correctly IMHO), clearly, and publicly stated that Bernie's campaign should immediately have full access restored to their own proprietary data - a good call.

[Paka]

85. Thank you for that.

Simple time line so all can understand. Clear and precise.

[notadmblnd]

99. after one of her spokespeople stood up and said Sander's stole millions from HRC

IfHCR didn't want to look like she was part of this mess, she had to clearly and publicly state that Sander's campaign should immediately have full access restored to their own proprietary data. Good call indeed.

[DhhD]

159. This was said on the ABC national evening news.

[Katashi_itto]

36. Word salad

[zigby]

86. I will campaign for Hillary until the cows come home

But she needs to distance herself from DWS and maybe even support flushing her. This whole issue is a loser and just gives the repukes room to giggle about how we can't keep our house straight, the party of perpetual data corruption! It's bullshit! Literally NOBODY outside us political junkies cares about the truth, all the public hears about is DEMOCRATIC DATA CORRUPTION! in the headlines. DWS is toxic, the issue is a loser, Hillary should support letting DWS fall on her sword for the betterment of the party and Hil's campaign.

[safeinOhio]

96. great points.

[whereisjustice]

162. Hillary and her cows are leaving piles of bullshit for middle class and below to clean up.

[leftofcool]

163. And Bernie is just leaving bullshit for people to swallow hook line and sinker.

[bowens43]

165. sheep is more appropriate........

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.

[still_one]

12. downtrend.com looks like a RW site. Vehemently anti-Obama, and looks pro-Putin

http://downtrend.com/topics/nobama

and here is how downtrend.com characterizes itself:

WHAT: Downtrend.com is a right-leaning political news site that is most popular among those that cherish the Constitution.

http://downtrend.com/about-us

If these are your sources, that speaks volumes for your preferences

Posting from right wing rags really goes a long way I guess

As far as the Sanders' team saying they can prove DNC "collusion" with the Hillary team, then do it!!!

All this talk is cheap, if they have the "goods" then put it up, and let the chips fall where they may

[NorthCarolina]

14. Since when does the obvious require proof?

eom

[Jarqui]

21. "the DNC is desperate to settle out of court"

No kidding. Scared little weasels running for the exits

"which will demonstrate that, of course, what the chairwoman said was absolutely false"

No wonder DWS was getting twitchy in her interview last night

[Betty Karlson]

27. twitchy? Or witchy?

The pure evil of her bias suggests you used one letter too many.

[erronis]

51. Oooh - another flag coming. They have to make this a purely HRC site.

[NCTraveler]

23. Hasn't the head of the DNC endorsed Clinton?

Doesn't Clinton currently represent a vary large majority of the Democratic Party?

They work together often. Sanders should try it. Outside of the debates, where I see a strong argument, the party has supported his campaign in a positive manner as well.

[erronis]

56. "Vary" doesn't work here. Clinton does represent a narrow group of voters ---

Those with money.

I'm sorry I didn't address your subject line: "Hasn't the head of the DNC endorsed Clinton?"

WTF? We're supposedly in a process of deciding who would be our nominee. Why would a nominally independent actor have already made up her mind? Of course, you know the answer and were just teasing with us.

[Fed up in NJ]

112. I believe DWS has every right to endorse HRC.....

.... What I don't believe is se has the right, nor the DNC the right, to keep debates down to 6 from 28 in 2008 in order to ensure Clinton's advantage of name recognition an advantage not to mention how poorly she did in the last one having to pull the 9/11 card to defend her comfy spot on Wall Street's pocket!

[enid602]

26. blame

Something bad hsppens to him, and he's quick to turn it around and blame it on others. Like Maduro in Venezuela.

[Thinkingabout]

30. I bet they can find Hillary has been closely related to the DNC for many years.

She has raised lots of money for the DNC, has campaigned for other Democrats, has even donated and campaigned for Sanders.
Yes, Hillary has worked for the DNC for many years.

[Blue_Adept]

34. The horror!

[Laser102]

47. She's busted! A Democrat in the DNC. Haha

[JoePhilly]

121. Smoking gun!!!!

[polichick]

32. Excellent!

[Hepburn]

35. My gut reaction is that the timing and the heavy-handedness speaks of Hillary

That is my reaction. However, if there is proof that she orchestrated this in any manner or was a part of this in any way, I say that pretty much ends her chances for the nomination.

[Phlem]

39. If he succeeds it would do the nation good to see the ugly.

A nice long look under the hood for everyone to see. At this point it's not about Hillary anymore.

[draa]

40. I have a question that no one is asking.

Bernie Sanders has demanded an audit and full independent investigation. Where is Clinton on this? If Sanders "stole" data shouldn't she be leading the charge for an audit/investigation. And why in the hell is no one asking this question? Why aren't we questioning her silence on this if it's as bad as her and her supporters claim?

[Segami]

43. In my short opinion,...

1- People would be deposed under oath -- that would not sit well with team Clinton, DNC and DWS.

2- As it was stated: “...We will get access to all the internal communications of the DNC where we can demonstrate what I think most people think is going on, which is that there are some people in there who are clearly trying to help the Clinton campaign,..”

Now, nobody from team Clinton, DNC and DWS wants anyone (especially from the Sanders camp) snooping around, looking through their files and worried that some other nuggets will be uncovered.

[draa]

52. It fairly obvious they don't want people looking it the DNC

but this shouldn't go unchallenged. At least not by us.

[safeinOhio]

103. Yesterday when I heard

the word "discovery", I new what would happen. When the DNC dropped the hold on Sanders access, I was sure about the whole thing. I posted about it yesterday.

Nothing scares an accuser more than the word "discovery". I've been a party to law suites and have watched the magic of that word. The resulting dropping of the hold, with the mention of that word confirm the Bull Crapola.

[arcane1]

49. She's probably waiting for the focus group results n/t

[murielm99]

64. Let Bernie and his supporters do all the blustering.

They look desperate and unprofessional, while Hillary stays discretely in the background.

Give Bernie enough rope, and he will hang himself. I can't wait.

[libdem4life]

69. Some might call that hiding...and letting the underlings take the heat. That, too, is a

Clinton characteristic.

I don't think an investigation into the database is rope to hang Bernie. In fact, you'd think they would be rarin' to get Bernie's fired IT Director into court to grill him about the 40 minute peekaboo crime he committed.

It wiil likely break on Monday.

[Segami]

74. LOL!...desperate?..rope?..hang himself?...Where have you been the last 48 hours?

But just the same, nice try at comedy but really, keep your day job.

[SusanCalvin]

87. Exactly. All I want is an independent audit. Let the chips fall. nt

[Nite Owl]

145. Of the October breach

also. That fact seems to be getting ignored. What did they 'steal', what happened yesterday and overnight when DWS held his account hostage?

[SusanCalvin]

146. Absolutely. Audit as far back as possible. Let the chips fall. nt

[arcane1]

41. "afraid of what might come out in the discovery process of the legal proceedings."

That's it right there.

[safeinOhio]

107. All emails between the DNC, DWS and

Hillary's staff. Strange the hold on Bernie wash dropped a second later. Not really.

[arcane1]

120. Right? I suppose we'll be called "Coincidence Theorists" :)

[onenote]

128. the lawsuit alleges breach of contract and two counts of negligence

I don't think that opens the door for a wide ranging fishing expedition through discovery.

[pangaia]

44. Thanks for posting..

[OilemFirchen]

46. This is a campaign SPINNING wildly out of control.

Everything looks like desperation now.

What a pity.

[arcane1]

50. More individual donations than any candidate in history

[OilemFirchen]

53. Fools and money.

[arcane1]

55. Better than getting their money from republicans

[MynameisBlarney]

63. And multinational corporations.

[PoliticalMalcontent]

125. People who send money toward candidates tend to vote for those candidates.

We'll see how it plays out.

[dorkzilla]

58. Yes I agree, Hillary’s campaign is starting to look desperate.

So glad you noticed.

[HubertHeaver]

170. When your campaign is analogous to the Titanic, that happens.

[NuclearDem]

57. I'm half expecting Sanders to come out on stage tonight wearing tinfoil.

Just in case Hillary tries to fry his brain, of course!

[TIME TO PANIC]

60. K & R !

[Beacool]

61. So, the Sanders' campaign accessed documents that didn't belong to them,

but they are the injured party?

That takes a lot of nerve!!!

[randome]

62. In other words, a fishing expedition.

Because they simply know they have proof but...they don't have any...yet. But just wait and...
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[pa28]

66. Here is the Hillary campaign manager's "denial" over accessing Bernie's data.

The Clinton campaign manager also hesitated when asked if any of his staff had access to Sanders’ records, saying he was sure no one had “reached into Bernie Sanders’ data and extracted it in the way that the Bernie Sanders campaign did this week”.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/bernie-sanders-set-to-sue-democratic-national-committee-over-data-access

Had not accessed data "in the way" Sanders campaign had. Not very convincing.

[Segami]

68. Freudian slip?.....mincing words?...

Now why should WE believe him or anyone from team Clinton? Because they say so?

Can someone please state a good reason why we should believe team Clinton manager's statement?

[Hepburn]

72. Okay, let me try...

...ummmmmm....

well, no, that's not it....

Ok...how about...???

Dang, I don't see a reason to believe it!

[winter is coming]

117. Oh, jeebus.

That's not very obvious.

[questionseverything]

167. good point

i have also wondered wether the hc campaign alerted the dnc in october when the firewall was down

i would like to see proof of that

[LittleBlue]

70. Wait wait wait

....




Go!

[Bread and Circus]

71. I wouldn't be surprised. Why else would the DNC cave so quickly?

[Bread and Circus]

73. Does the DNC have a private server. I am sure they are busy right now deleting emails.

[Cryptoad]

76. Sounds like Sour Grapes,,,

[Bread and Circus]

79. Sour grapes make wine. So delicious.

[Hepburn]

80. Maybe Hillary can help...or at least send Pagliano? n/t

[Bread and Circus]

81. Like with a cloth or something?

[Hepburn]

82. Oh, yeah, Handi-Wipes! n/t

[RoccoR5955]

75. If he succeeds in doing this Clinton is toast! n/t

[Segami]

84. I agree.

JMO....but it wouldn't surprise me the least bit to learn that some big, Clinton whale donor placed a direct call to DWS telling (ordering) her to shut down this injunction and to immediately give the Sanders camp back their data access and to do it PRONTO!

JMO.

[safeinOhio]

110. +1

Ya think? Me2

[WestSeattle2]

78. I hope they sue the DNC - and don't settle. Let's see exactly how that

organization has been managed over the last few years. The DNC should be a neutral organization, promoting all Democrat candidates. If they are undermining come candidates, I want to know. It will definitely affect how and when I contribute to candidates.

[pnwmom]

83. Right. So he has no evidence now, but he's sure he can find something in discovery.,

Typical blustery lawyer talk.

[safeinOhio]

111. Seems to have worked

in a NY minute.
If DWS had maintained the hold, I would have had my doubts.

[Babel_17]

94. Heck yes, K&R

Truth will out.

[Purveyor]

95. K&R Thanks for posting. eom

[SoapBox]

97. K & R

[Dont call me Shirley]

138. Very telling!

[weknowvino2]

166. It appears that the DNC

is afraid of what the forensics will reveal.
If their purpose was to slime Bernie, I so-o-o-o hope they get caught and dealt with accordingly.
The dems do dirty tricks too. Just not as well as the other side.

GO BERNIE! Give 'em HELL!

[Enthusiast]

102. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[Duval]

118. This is going to be very interesting.

Thanks, Segami.

[Thespian2]

136. K & R!!!

Wait for it...

[in_cog_ni_to]

137. Ruh Roh!

DON'T DROP THE LAWSUIT BERNIE! Expose their corruption and collusion! Everyone knows it's going on, so expose. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. SHINE THAT LIGHT!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[sabrina 1]

139. I'm sure they can, which is why the DNC caved so quickly. Bernie should NOT withdraw his lawsuit.

[AgingAmerican]

140. Election fraud?

[Eko]

142. When does "some people" equal the whole place or even a majority.

This place gets republican crazy around primaries. I miss the adults.

[Live and Learn]

147. K&R nt

[sufrommich]

149. Then why doesn't he just prove it?

Is he waiting for a formal invitation from someone?

[uponit7771]

150. ".. what I think ..."

[JackInGreen]

151. If they can prove it

The HRC group will look like the climax from "Kingsman" (before her heininess).

[msrizzo]

152. Yes, please prove it.

Prove it soon. It's called Put Up or Shut Up.

[AzDar]

153. Debbie WantsToRigIt-Schultz stating that all Bernie had was "bluster" is all one needs to hear...

She isn't skilled enough to hide her obvious bias, and needs to GO.

[Bradical79]

154. Go for it

Can't make that kind of claim then back down, imo. Chances would go from slim to none in a heartbeat. If they say they can prove it, then try to prove it.

[uberblonde]

157. And yet...

https://medium.com/@AmyKDacey/here-s-what-happened-with-ngp-van-the-sanders-campaign-and-the-clinton-campaign-d75dd1d2edbf#.9q3iume57

I call bullshit.

[disndat]

158. Carpenters Union's Sanders Endorsement, coincidence?

700,000 members of the Carpenters Union endorsement hours before, boosting the Sanders momentum, and the 40 minute H.C.'s email firewall that went down, a coincidence?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

169. Check the data staffers' bank accounts

you never know

[whereisjustice]

160. Dear Debbie, you fill your house with skunks, then act surprised when the smell escapes?

[treestar]

161. It is the Democratic voters that are "conspiring"

DNC and DWS are scapegoats for the fact Bernie can't get a higher number of voters.

[bowens43]

164. That is like proving the sun rises in the east