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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:04 PM Dec 2015

Bernie Sanders Shifts to BIGGER Iowa Venues




PRESS RELEASE

Sanders Shifts to Bigger Iowa Venues

DECEMBER 20, 2015



BURLINGTON, Vt. — With turnout projections mounting, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ Iowa campaign on Sunday shifted the locations of events in Sioux City and Red Oak. The Democratic Party presidential candidate will also make stops in Storm Lake, Carroll, Harlan and Council Bluffs. Sanders will discuss a wide range of issues, including his plan to combat climate change, his college affordability plan, income and wealth inequality and getting big money out of politics. Here is the itinerary:

Monday, December 21

7 p.m. Sioux City Town Meeting, Sioux City Convention Center, 801 4th Street, Sioux City
Information for the public: Doors open at 6 p.m. This event is free and open to the public, but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

Tuesday, December 22

10 a.m. Storm Lake Town Meeting, Buena Vista University, Harold Walter Siebens School of Business, Storm Lake
Information for the public: Doors open at 9:30 a.m. This event is free and open to the public, but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

12:30 p.m. Carroll Field Headquarters Opening, Bernie 2016 Carroll Field Office, 820 West 8th Street, Carroll
Information for the public: Doors open at noon. This event is free and open to the public, but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

4 p.m. Harlan Town Meeting, C. G. Therkildsen Activity Center, 706 Victoria Street, Harlan
Information for the public: Doors open at 3 p.m. This event is free and open to the public, but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

7 p.m. Pottawattamie County Economic Forum, Iowa Western Community College, Kanesville Gym and Arena, 2700 College Road, Council Bluffs

Information for the public: Doors open at 6 p.m. This event is free and open to the public,but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

Wednesday, December 23

10 a.m. Red Oak Town Meeting, Red Coach Inn and Restaurant, 1200 Senate Avenue, Red Oak
Information for the public: Doors open at 9:30 a.m. This event is free and open to the public, but RSVPs are strongly encouraged.

Noon Council Bluffs Meeting with Precinct Captains, Barley’s, 114 W. Broadway, Council Bluffs
Information for the public: This event is for precinct captains.


https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-shifts-to-bigger-iowa-venues/
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Bernie Sanders Shifts to BIGGER Iowa Venues (Original Post) Segami Dec 2015 OP
More ears coming to hear a progressive saltpoint Dec 2015 #1
Great news...thank you. libdem4life Dec 2015 #2
Spreading the Bern like wildfire.... ViseGrip Dec 2015 #3
Glad to hear that. k&r AtomicKitten Dec 2015 #4
Clearly they haven't heard about the data breech Kalidurga Dec 2015 #5
*snort! artislife Dec 2015 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #6
K&R CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #7
Great news! Rec, n/t emulatorloo Dec 2015 #8
Here's some information about Bernie's attendance numbers in Iowa CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #10
I went to school in Iowa rosesaylavee Dec 2015 #11
I think his numbers are encouraging... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #22
Amazing. The total number of attendees SheilaT Dec 2015 #17
Maybe all of Hillary's fans were busy answering those landline-phone polls. reformist2 Dec 2015 #21
They are a determined bunch. nt thereismore Dec 2015 #28
wozersssssssssssssss questionseverything Dec 2015 #26
Interesting. moondust Dec 2015 #12
They are but there are a lot of ignored Democrats in that jwirr Dec 2015 #16
I think that O'Malley supporters might be an interesting variable too... cascadiance Dec 2015 #35
That makes sense. One of the caucuses I attended in NW IA jwirr Dec 2015 #43
Bernie's events CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #23
I think many people respect the fact that Bernie didn't turn into a yuppie, he has stayed true jalan48 Dec 2015 #13
Before long he will need Kinnick Stadium! n/t Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #14
That would be awesome! (Go Hawks!) CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #24
Agreed... and a "Go Hawks" from this Badger too! Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #41
He should attend the Rose Bowl on New Year's day! cascadiance Dec 2015 #30
We have Bernie supporters marching right behind the parade. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #38
Really hoping you guys win the Rose Bowl! Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #42
They haven't won there since the year I was born... cascadiance Dec 2015 #44
Oh man...so sorry for your loss. Still In Wisconsin Dec 2015 #45
Feeling the BERN!! AzDar Dec 2015 #15
This is the most civil, upbeat, positive thread I've read on DU for days. senz Dec 2015 #18
Thanks senz... Segami Dec 2015 #37
You can clearly see why the NYT (Hillary Times) feels that Sanders is falling behind. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #19
Go get 'em Bernie.. say what it is... big money corruption stealing our democracy Leftyforever Dec 2015 #20
Excellent! (nt) fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #25
I'm going to try to attend tomorrow night. progressoid Dec 2015 #27
Hillary finished 3RD in IA in 2008. This is not discussed much, but thereismore Dec 2015 #29
And make sure that the votes are counted properly too... cascadiance Dec 2015 #31
Bernie is no pushover. In the mayoral election in VT he had a judge impound all the ballots thereismore Dec 2015 #32
I love that, "in the wild". It is so true. They are very hard to find. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #39
Good point. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #40
Clinton and Bernie should have a friendly debate here in Iowa City... cascadiance Dec 2015 #33
:bounce: WillyT Dec 2015 #34
Cool bigwillq Dec 2015 #36
K.R 99Forever Dec 2015 #46

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. More ears coming to hear a progressive
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:11 PM
Dec 2015

voice. I'm for it. Book the large venues, break out the folding chairs, engage more people in the process.



 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
4. Glad to hear that. k&r
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:32 PM
Dec 2015

In 2008, both Hillary and McCain mocked then Candidate Obama for his popularity.

Neither were laughing on November 4, 2008.

Hillary circa 2008 primary re: Obama: "Enough with the speeches and big rallies!"

09/04/2015: Clinton dusts off 2008 dig at Obama to hit Sanders.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/politics/hillary-clinton-2008-bernie-sanders-barack-obama/

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. Here's some information about Bernie's attendance numbers in Iowa
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:17 AM
Dec 2015

I live in Iowa and have been trying to find out how Bernie's rallies are going. The media is still blacking Bernie out in Iowa (although it is getting better). I managed to find some articles from Radio Iowa and smaller newspapers.

Here is what I have gathered about Bernie's Iowa events during the first couple of weeks in December. These are not all of his events. Just the Town Halls. Both Bernie and Clinton had several smaller-venue events, as well as corporate events, visits to thank volunteers, stopping by diners, etc.

Doesn't surprise me at all, that Sanders is moving to larger venues. Walls had to be moved at his Dubuque event to accommodate the RSVPs that were pouring in. His Waterloo event turned away people and it was standing-room only.

Hey, if you got it (throngs of supporters!) flaunt it!

So, I compared Bernie/Clinton rallies and their attendance numbers:

Bernie
2000 attendees--Sanders Town Meeting in Dubuque, Iowa (12/12) Overflow crowd Source: Radio Iowa
1500 attendees--Sanders Town Meeting in Waterloo, Iowa (12/12) Standing-room only. Source: Waterloo Courier
1125 attendees--Sanders Town Hall in Mt. Vernon, Iowa (12/13)

Clinton
200 attendees--"Fighting for Us" Town Hall in Ft. Dodge, Iowa (12/4) Source: ABC News
350 attendees--"Fighting For Us" Town Hall in Waterloo, Iowa (12/9) Source: Waterloo Courier
250 attendees_"Fighting For Us" Town Hall in Urbandale Iowa (12/9) Source: Radio Iowa

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
11. I went to school in Iowa
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:41 AM
Dec 2015

My husband grew up in Iowa and went to Iowa City for his education... and we have a lot of family and friends still there. Iowa is very literate. The farmers and general populace are smart. Not sure why they voted in that governor but he won't last long. They understand when they are being lied to, when they are being played. I am not surprised that Senator Sanders is receiving such a warm welcome. Thanks for the numbers! I found this to be very encouraging!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
22. I think his numbers are encouraging...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

...and the fact that he is having 8 campaign events during the week of Christmas, is amazing!

I don't think Hillary or O'Malley have any events scheduled in Iowa for this week, but someone correct me if I am wrong.

Bernie is really building momentum here, during a time when Iowans aren't really that focused on the caucuses, since they are 6 weeks away.

I agree that Iowans are pretty savvy when it comes to politics. We've been through the caucus cycle so many times. We know baloney when we hear it. Some, but not all campaigns, fail to understand that. We can tell when candidates are being disingenuous and we also notice differences in media coverage, favoritism, that sort of thing.

The Black and Brown Forum was completely overhauled this year, for the first time ever. It had always been a debate, with the candidates on stage together. Both Bernie and MOM fought to have it remain as a debate, to honor Iowa traditions. Hillary didn't fight. So--for the first time ever--one of our cherished traditions will watered down into a meaningless joke. Each candidate will speak alone at a podium. Oh joy. How revolutionary! Politicians giving speeches.

First time, since 1984. And we all know why the DNC is not allowing this debate to move forward. Because they continue to protect Hillary's inevitability nut. They don't want it washing away into the Iowa cornfields.

Iowans wil notice this. And when this ridiculous version of the Black and Brown forum happens on Jan 11, Iowans will notice, for sure.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
17. Amazing. The total number of attendees
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:48 AM
Dec 2015

at all three Hillary events, is still significantly fewer than the most lightly attended Bernie event.

Surely that says something important.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
21. Maybe all of Hillary's fans were busy answering those landline-phone polls.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 06:51 AM
Dec 2015

Sure they may not go Hillary's rallies, they may not wear buttons, they may not put bumper stickers on their cars. They of course never vote in those dreaded online polls. Even if there's zero evidence of enthusiasm for her in the real world, Hillary supporters can sleep at night knowing how well she does in those "scientific" landline polls.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
12. Interesting.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 12:57 AM
Dec 2015

These look like they're mostly in western Iowa which is basically Steve King and Joni Ernst country.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. They are but there are a lot of ignored Democrats in that
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:13 AM
Dec 2015

area that attend the caucuses. From my experience growing up in that area it is not easy being a Democrat.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
35. I think that O'Malley supporters might be an interesting variable too...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:43 PM
Dec 2015

In normal primary elections, he'd get a percentage of the votes not going to either Clinton or Bernie.

But in a caucus, people are in a room together looking to have their votes become "viable" as a part of a group of enough voters that they can have a representative that goes on to the state convention to represent them.

That means there's a lot of dickering, depending on the sizes of these groups to recruit voters of other candidates to join together for "the common good". You could get a caucus group where you have two roughly the same sized group of voters of both Hillary and Bernie voters that both need an additional voter or two to be viable to have a representative. I predict that O'Malley supporters would be more apt to either join a Bernie group of supporters to support Bernie, or if there are enough of them to have an "undecided" representative, within a group where you have a rep selected that though committed as undecided, has a leaning towards Bernie if the majority of voters in that group are Bernie supporters.

I think that Bernie may profit more from the mechanics of the way caucuses work with O'Malley supporters I think more having similar concerns that Bernie supporters do than Hillary supporters do, and in this election, the groups supporting Bernie will be a lot larger in terms of relative size versus O'Malley groups than say Obama groups were with Edwards' supporters then. I'm guessing that those mechanics also helped Edwards get in second instead of Hillary in the Iowa caucuses then too, when Obama and Edwards' supporters had more in common with each other in terms of their beliefs, positions, etc.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
43. That makes sense. One of the caucuses I attended in NW IA
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:56 AM
Dec 2015

was in a home and there were only about 10 of us there. It was a really in depth discussion. I really enjoyed it. I also attended a bigger caucus in MN several years ago and there were even some real arguing going on.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
23. Bernie's events
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 04:58 PM
Dec 2015

that I listed, in Dubuque, Waterloo and Mt Vernon--are in Eastern Iowa.

Those areas are more liberal parts than the Western part. But they are not liberal strongholds. As you said, western Iowa is King/Ernst country--and to say that it is conservative is an understatement. It's a whole other planet.

Dubuque is fairly conservative, as there is very large percentage of Catholics who live there. However, there are many Democrats and a large number of working-class folks. It's a relatively small city (55,000 or so).

Waterloo is bigger and is a college town (home to the University of Northern Iowa with 20,000 students). Bernie's rally was held during finals week, and he still blew the house down.

Also of interesting--Bernie has EIGHT events in Iowa this week--the week of Christmas. Most of them are in Western Iowa, in King/Ernst territory. I am amazed that Bernie is tackling this western part of the state so hard. He had rallies in Council Bluffs and other western Iowa cities earlier in the year and they were very well-attended. Standing room only.

Will be interesting to see how those crowd numbers are this week with these Bernie western Iowa events.

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
13. I think many people respect the fact that Bernie didn't turn into a yuppie, he has stayed true
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:02 AM
Dec 2015

to his ideals.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
30. He should attend the Rose Bowl on New Year's day!
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:14 PM
Dec 2015

It will either support the biggest Democratic population state, or the most important caucus state depending on who wins, and an Iowa win there would be the first since the year I was born last century.



After all Trump and I believe one or two other Republicans like Fiorina did go to the Iowa/Iowa State game earlier this year in Ames.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
38. We have Bernie supporters marching right behind the parade.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:57 AM
Dec 2015

It won't be televised probably but all the people watching the parade in person will see them.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
42. Really hoping you guys win the Rose Bowl!
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:47 AM
Dec 2015

I am a lifelong Badger fan but I'm really pulling for you guys in Pasadena.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
44. They haven't won there since the year I was born...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:49 PM
Dec 2015

... so it would be nice for a change to win it!

Win the damn Holiday Bowl against USC too for the Big Ten! I went there when Iowa played BYU that finished in a damn tie game many years back before we had overtime periods.

I'll probably have to find time to go down there to bury my mom's remains there next to my dad in the coming month or so too. It's been a nightmare of a year for me and my family lately. A Rose Bowl win would help lighten the mood a bit. Wish I could have been traveling down to California for that instead.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
45. Oh man...so sorry for your loss.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

Losing parents is a tough, tough thing. Doesn't matter what age it happens. I sincerely hope that your family is able to heal and that 2016 is a happier year for you

Although football games are unimportant in comparison to family, I now hope even just a little more that your Hawkeyes win. I think they will, too. That defense is as tough as they come (obviously I'm in a position to know seeing as how we couldn't get into the end zone against you in our own house) and you've got enough offense to put up the 20 or so points I think it will take to win. Obviously I'm hoping we can take care of USC too. And, I remember that Iowa-BYU Holiday bowl. So does our AD and former coach, Barry Alvarez, who was Hayden Fry's linebacker coach back then.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
18. This is the most civil, upbeat, positive thread I've read on DU for days.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 02:35 AM
Dec 2015

Thank you, Segami. You are so good.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
19. You can clearly see why the NYT (Hillary Times) feels that Sanders is falling behind. eom
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 03:07 AM
Dec 2015

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
29. Hillary finished 3RD in IA in 2008. This is not discussed much, but
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:57 PM
Dec 2015

I don't see it a likely scenario that Iowans would suddenly warm up to her so much. I don't think she has that amount of support. Hillary fans are hard to spot in the wild. I think many people will be surprised when caucuses conclude on Feb. 1.
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
31. And make sure that the votes are counted properly too...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:23 PM
Dec 2015

After all, Santorum actually beat Romney in 2012 on the Republican side of this state even though it was initially reported Romney won the Iowa caucus.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
32. Bernie is no pushover. In the mayoral election in VT he had a judge impound all the ballots
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:25 PM
Dec 2015

when it was clear that the election was close. He won by 10 votes.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
39. I love that, "in the wild". It is so true. They are very hard to find.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:58 AM
Dec 2015

Must be well camouflaged.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
33. Clinton and Bernie should have a friendly debate here in Iowa City...
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:30 PM
Dec 2015

... on the corner of Clinton and Burlington, which is right near the heart of the downtown area there in that college town in addition to having name significance for both candidates! Hope it's not too snowy there now.

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