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MineralMan

(151,210 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:55 PM Dec 2015

2016 will be just like 2008, I predict.

It will be a new first for the presidency. In 2008, we elected our first black President. In 2016, we'll elect the first woman as President. Another historical election!

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2016 will be just like 2008, I predict. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2015 OP
Or maybe the first Jewish president. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #1
^^^this!^^^ peacebird Dec 2015 #10
I am on board for that! PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #28
From your lips to gods ears JackInGreen Dec 2015 #29
Yes, the first Jewish president. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #49
+1000 artislife Dec 2015 #53
Yep 840high Dec 2015 #56
Elizebeth Warren will be the nation's first woman President. ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #2
I love her but her time has come and gone redstateblues Dec 2015 #5
How so? mwrguy Dec 2015 #9
Perhaps a non-sequitur but your reply reminds me of that old Steely PatrickforO Dec 2015 #51
Exactly!! Owl Dec 2015 #13
LOL! onehandle Dec 2015 #22
...at age 70 or 74? brooklynite Dec 2015 #27
Hillary is 68. If she were elected she would be 69 when taking office The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #32
...at age 70 or 74? brooklynite Dec 2015 #33
I wish. RiverLover Dec 2015 #60
^^^THIS^^^ sonofspy777 Dec 2015 #64
Love it. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #3
You really think Fiorina can pull out the GOP nomination? n/t Chan790 Dec 2015 #4
Sweet! LOL! peacebird Dec 2015 #11
I suspect you are correct. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #6
I think you better get a better crystal ball, NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #7
I read the future in MineralMan Dec 2015 #8
Thank you. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #14
Cool word, isn't it? MineralMan Dec 2015 #15
It really is. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #16
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #26
No Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #12
From your keyboard.... K&R MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #17
to God's blog! yallerdawg Dec 2015 #23
I think the hubris of the Democratic Party Elites may make this election like 2000. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #18
wut? one_voice Dec 2015 #30
Glad you understand. They didn't heed the warning. Hubris. Same as today. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #41
Actually no... one_voice Dec 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Dec 2015 #45
uh-huh... one_voice Dec 2015 #46
Let me go one more. The Clintons and Bushes are great friends. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #47
...^ that 840high Dec 2015 #57
How reliable has your predicticating been? Owl Dec 2015 #19
Very accurate, starting in 1968. MineralMan Dec 2015 #21
"past performance does not necessarily predict future results." -SEC. ;-) n/t JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #54
Actually, I suspect it will be more like 2004 Proud Public Servant Dec 2015 #20
they are both leap years. niyad Dec 2015 #24
If Hillary Clinton wins the POTUS, there is zero chance she will PufPuf23 Dec 2015 #25
There are more women than men. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #34
So? Why don't you address my specific comments and speculations? PufPuf23 Dec 2015 #35
I did address with a comment, why the personal attack on me? Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #37
What personal attack? There is more to HRC's than her gender. PufPuf23 Dec 2015 #42
So? Are you assuming women will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #36
Because there are more women than jewish men. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #38
Does a man have to be Jewish to vote for Bernie? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #39
This isnt about voting, it about the turnout after Hillary wins the Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #40
Not "after" she wins; "if" she wins. Not a single person has voted yet. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #43
I am not trying to get at anything, you must be over reading what I have posted. bye Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #48
Wait, did I miss something? SheilaT Dec 2015 #31
I agree it'll be just like 2008 azurnoir Dec 2015 #50
Oh yes. 840high Dec 2015 #58
Well, at the very least the PUMAs are back. NuclearDem Dec 2015 #52
According to my granddaughter's Magic 8-Ball... Binkie The Clown Dec 2015 #55
Yep! Thinks are changing fast, too fast for some but screw them brush Dec 2015 #59
from what we know today, I fully agree DrDan Dec 2015 #61
A Female POTUS would be great Gothmog Dec 2015 #62
Carly Fiorina? Not so much. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #63

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
29. From your lips to gods ears
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

Pardon me, I have lox waiting with breakfast (no joke, jusr too damn great a timing)

PatrickforO

(15,420 posts)
49. Yes, the first Jewish president.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:11 AM
Dec 2015

That's it!

I'm sure plugging for Bernie, and I'll be supporting him every step of the way!

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
2. Elizebeth Warren will be the nation's first woman President.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 08:57 PM
Dec 2015

She's not running this year. #FeelTheBern

PatrickforO

(15,420 posts)
51. Perhaps a non-sequitur but your reply reminds me of that old Steely
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:17 AM
Dec 2015

Dan song, Midnight Cruiser.

The time of our time has come and gone,
I fear we've been waiting too long.
Tell me where are you going, midnight cruiser?
Where is your bounty of fortune and fame?

Great song, and it may be that Warren, like Teddy before her might become the new Lion of the Senate. I don't think she'll ever run for prez either.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,461 posts)
32. Hillary is 68. If she were elected she would be 69 when taking office
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:05 AM
Dec 2015

and if she ran a second time she'd be 73. Not a whole lot of difference...

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
60. I wish.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:28 AM
Dec 2015

I think that ship has sailed. She'll be 71 June 2020.

President Warren....would have been outstanding for US.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
7. I think you better get a better crystal ball,
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:08 PM
Dec 2015

or at least check the batteries in the one you have.

MineralMan

(151,210 posts)
8. I read the future in
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:11 PM
Dec 2015

Chicken entrails. Crystal balls are a distorted way to scry the future.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Thank you.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:21 PM
Dec 2015

scry
skrī/
verb
foretell the future using a crystal ball or other reflective object or surface.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
16. It really is.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:25 PM
Dec 2015

There are a couple of people here who send me to the dictionary often. I enjoy that aspect.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. I think the hubris of the Democratic Party Elites may make this election like 2000.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:28 PM
Dec 2015

The Party elites fight to keep progressives off the ticket like they did in 2000. They like the DLC/Third Way candidates that are beholden to the Oligarchy. Sanders has a much better chance of winning the general but the Democratic Party Elites would rather see another Bush than let a progressive win. Goldman-Sachs made it crystal clear that the Oligarchy supports either Clinton or Bush.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
41. Glad you understand. They didn't heed the warning. Hubris. Same as today.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

Of course their sponsors don't really care if Democrats win as long as progressives don't win. Goldman-Sachs, the Oligarch spokesperson for HRC says they will be happy with Clinton or Bush.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
44. Actually no...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:57 AM
Dec 2015

this was at how crazy your post was. you blaming the Democrats for the bush clusterfuck is one of the strangest things I've heard in a long time.

Response to one_voice (Reply #44)

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
20. Actually, I suspect it will be more like 2004
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 09:42 PM
Dec 2015

As the dull establishment figure who is terrible at campaigning and out-of-touch with ordinary Americans handily defeats the candidate generating all the enthusiasm. I just hope the general election doesn't also play out the same way as 2004.

PufPuf23

(9,826 posts)
25. If Hillary Clinton wins the POTUS, there is zero chance she will
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 11:47 PM
Dec 2015

enter office with the momentum and support that Barrack Obama had in 2008.

Clinton does not bring out supporter rallies as did Obama much less Sanders at her campaign stops.

Clinton has high negatives outside of and within the Democratic Party unique to Democratic Party candidates for POTUS in the last 50 years.

Clinton as POTUS is the strongest recipe for a divided DP and divided USA and DP loss in 2020.

Clinton promises to be a weak POTUS because of lack of support and she has the inclination to be a War POTUS. Her voting record and public comments on war are repulsive.

Personally I would like a woman POTUS just not Hillary Clinton.

It is apparently more important to HRC and many of her supporters that she be candidate even if it means the DP loses the election (and has weaker down ticket support) and at best a POTUS with weak support.

PufPuf23

(9,826 posts)
35. So? Why don't you address my specific comments and speculations?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:24 AM
Dec 2015

If HRC should win the election, there is no chance she will enter office with the momentum and support Barrack Obama enjoyed after the 2008 election.

Historic election, yes; but also wounded POTUS from the start.

Hillary Clinton and the presumption that HRC will be the Democratic candidate for POTUS has blocked other potential candidates.

The problem is compounded because HRC is the candidate of Big Money, Big Politics, Big Media, and Neoliberal philosophy.

Unfortunately, HRC does not generate the in person rallies of Obama in 2008 nor Sanders in 2016.

PufPuf23

(9,826 posts)
42. What personal attack? There is more to HRC's than her gender.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:50 AM
Dec 2015

All things being equal (and as stated), I would prefer and be excited to have a woman elected POTUS in 2016.

I apologize if you took my response as an attack.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,461 posts)
36. So? Are you assuming women will vote for Hillary just because she's a woman?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:24 AM
Dec 2015

If so, you assume incorrectly. I'm voting for the old grumpy Jewish guy, and so are all the other women I know.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,461 posts)
39. Does a man have to be Jewish to vote for Bernie?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:46 AM
Dec 2015

Is it your assumption that all women and all non-Jewish men will vote for Hillary, therefore leaving only Jewish men as Bernie voters? Huh???

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
40. This isnt about voting, it about the turnout after Hillary wins the
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

Presidency, the turn out after Obama was elected.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,461 posts)
43. Not "after" she wins; "if" she wins. Not a single person has voted yet.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:54 AM
Dec 2015

And, I still don't get what difference it makes if someone is a woman or a Jewish man or whatever. Most people vote for, and thereafter (if that person wins) support, the candidate who most closely represents their positions. Most people, at least the smart ones, don't care about ethnicity, race, religion or gender in that respect. So I really don't understand what you're trying to get at.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. Wait, did I miss something?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:04 AM
Dec 2015

Has the election already occurred?

Mumble, mumble, something about chickens, and hatching, no before they're hatched.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
50. I agree it'll be just like 2008
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:13 AM
Dec 2015

Hillary will not get the nomination and we'll have our first Jewish POTUS

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
55. According to my granddaughter's Magic 8-Ball...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:34 AM
Dec 2015

"Reply hazy try again"

So there you have it. I'm happy I was able to settle the issue for all of you.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
59. Yep! Thinks are changing fast, too fast for some but screw them
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:12 AM
Dec 2015

A black president, a woman president, majority minority demographic.

Some peoples' head will soon explode.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
61. from what we know today, I fully agree
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:38 AM
Dec 2015

Anyone thinking otherwise is in denial.

Things certainly could change, however. And that is the magic of politics.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,461 posts)
63. Carly Fiorina? Not so much.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

Whatever greatness a POTUS might have will be irrespective of gender.

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