2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis is a serious policy question... Is hrc a neocon ?... please support your answers..
Quick definitionNeoconservatives typically advocate the promotion of democracy and promotion of American national interest in international affairs, including by means of military force, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and for political radicalism
Source: Wikipedia... just a slice of the definition...more can be found at ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Leftyforever
(317 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I'm not at all sure this topic can be very deeply explored without invoking Israeil foreign policy and old NeoCon links there. Bringing democracy to the ME is a nice cover story, but it's a cover story. The rules greatly limit such general discussion
It's clear that the democratic candidates for the presidential nomination, all support action against Assad/Syria that has long been on the NeoCon hit list. Sanders does so with seeming less enthusiasm than Clinton.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)I know...
hibbing
(10,597 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)I think that wiki article is a pretty garbled mess, btw.
Both Sanders and HRC have emphasized coalition building when speaking about ISIL, so neither of them are proposing neo-con solutions. MOM as well. That's how Democrats in general approach things.
On the otherhand Republicans don't give a shit about the UN or international coalitions.
I am sure others will disagree with me, but that's fine.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Supported the biggest neoconservative fuckup in the nation's history, the unnecessary invasion of Iraq.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)You're not transparent.
msongs
(73,752 posts)Leftyforever
(317 posts)liberal... As a Democrat who has been engaged in politics (paying attention more than most) I sometimes have a hard time identifying the difference between my parties main stream foreign policy and the neocon mantra... if hrc beats Bernie ( which I think might not happen) To vote for her....I need to know that hrc won't follow the same middle of the road bomb them first diplomacy.. so please.. Is she a neocon? please support your answer.. thank you & happy holidays
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)when the Sanders campaign was at fault. But I do now.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Her corporate donors also fund the GOP candidates.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Yeah, she's a neo-con.
Leftyforever
(317 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)If she thinks people want a war, I think she will happily go along to promote herself. In fact, I think that has already proven to be the case.
jfern
(5,204 posts)When most of the rest of the country is controlled by ISIS or Al Qaeda
Scuba
(53,475 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Why does she want to play into their hands?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)According to opensecrets Hillary is the #1 Presidential candidate in defense industry donations ...
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=D&cycle=2016&recipdetail=P&mem=N&sortorder=U
Rank Candidate Amount
1 Clinton, Hillary (D) $94,951
2 Cruz, Ted (R) $82,582
3 Bush, Jeb (R) $45,450
4 Graham, Lindsey (R) $36,275
5 Paul, Rand (R) $30,880
6 Sanders, Bernie (D) $28,500
7 Carson, Ben (R) $24,206
8 Fiorina, Carly (R) $19,665
9 O'Malley, Martin (D) $16,500
10 Rubio, Marco (R) $14,761
11 Santorum, Rick (R) $8,200
12 Christie, Chris (R) $5,900
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)What I do or don't do with my vote?
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)And Merry Christmas!
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)having waffles when Mary Landrieu faced a run-off for her Senate seat. She had one less vote because of you, and it helped that Republican "Caligula but harmless pol", Cassidy - a move you appeared to be proud of, too. Although you edited your post to remove that part, thanks to SidDithers, it's preserved:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5923373
And you've eluded as much that if Hillary is the nominee, it'll be waffles again.
"If Hillary is the Nominee. Yes Waffles."http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6591738
With fair-weather Dem voters like you, Republicans will always hold positions of power. The sad thing is? You don't even see you're actually helping them.
Oh, and by the way? It IS my business since you've been posting all over DU what you'll do if your candidate fails (as he will) to win the Democratic Party nom. I know you've been far more cautious lately since Skinner has written that openly advocating to not vote for the Democratic nominee is grounds for PPR, as the Bugman and Goldenboy have been made to understand.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)You know who will say yes and who will say no and the support will only be rhetoric.
but carry on with the smear campaign.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)on the Google, because the OP is a Sanders supporter...and it's showing.
liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)resort to smear.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)It's a good question about policy.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I thought Sanders supporters were all for equal rights.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)Users are too biased and one side more so.
You can ask the question all you want, but the responses on this thread are worthless as two teats on a boar.
Leftyforever
(317 posts)Leftyforever
(317 posts)is dumb lol happy holidays.... discuss the facts it's enlightening
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)neo-conservative and neo-liberal.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)has Hillary ever met a war she didn't like?