2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDebbie Wasserman Schultz launched a 'Political Suicide Bombing' of Sanders campaign
But only succeeded in blowing herself up, metaphorically of course. Bernies reaction? Make DELICIOUS lemonade from the ashes!!
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And that's what the op is about, her stupid stunt.
Response to randome (Reply #2)
tecelote This message was self-deleted by its author.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)and only the people misrepresenting what happened are using the word "stealing".
Please try to be more accurate.
oasis
(49,426 posts)referring to?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Fail.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)So you all are wasting your time with this nonsense. DWS/Hillary want desperately for this to go awày, but we will not let it. It will go to the bitter end.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)and has suspended two others, defending the actions is going against Sanders. It is hard to believe the staffers has caused Sanders to have to apologize for this offense, he has class, those defending those who breached should follow Berne's example.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)There are no accusations of theft, and previous accusations from DWS/Hillary were backpedaled almost immediately.
The Hillary campaign must have also known there was no database firewall, but said nothing. With the firewall down, searches by her campaign would have brought up hits on Sanders info. I find it hard to believe that they didnt notice. A full investigation is warranted.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)He handled it with class, now all the onus is on DWS/Hillary
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Communications of ALL parties including DNC, DWS, Clinton Team, Bernie Sanders Team and computer post mortems of software installations/changes with associated analysis of such from DAY ONE.
This is referred to as Transparency. Lets see it Dbbie, Hillary... NGP VAN Team...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)PosterChild
(1,307 posts)Jeff Weaver, Sanders campaign manager:
Sanders communications director Michael Briggs:
http://www.npr.org/2015/12/18/460273748/bernie-sanders-campaign-locked-out-of-key-voter-file-after-data-breach
What the Sander's campaign did was unethical and stupid. Calling it theft is just calling it what it is.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Nothing was stolen, and anything done that was inappropriate was done by staffers, not the campaign. The campaign took completely appropriate action by dismissing staff, and apologized in front of millions on live TV.
IT's generally a fair minded effort to level the playing field, but your attempts at framing Bernie as being just as dishonest as Hillary fails badly, even if you attain your objective.
PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... it's bernie's suporters who are keeping this going, as evidenced by the op, by playing the victim and making silly accusations of a conspiratorial nature. Others would just as soon move on. Rather than make excuses and engage in quibbling you might want to recomend just moving on. No one outside of bernie's supporters would disagree.
..... my post quotes only the sander's campaign.
.... my criticism is directed only at the sander's campaign and those sanders supporters who are playing the victim and making excuses . Not at sanders himself or his supporters in general.
Do yourself a favor and drop it.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Has zero value to me.
PosterChild
(1,307 posts).... the negative value i attribute to yours ! Keep banging your head against the wall. Doesn't give anyone else a headache.
Nitram
(22,907 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Besides wishful thinking coming from Clinton partisans?
Nitram
(22,907 posts)Then they saved the results and shard links with other staffers.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/index.html
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Information from both campaigns will come up in any queries ran. That's how databases work. That would mean any queries ran by the Clinton campaign would have also returned results from both campaign databases. The big difference is Hillary's campaign said nothing. They sat on it. Why is that? Only a FULL investigation will tell us for sure.
CNN is owned by Time Warner. One of Hillary's biggest campaign contributors. Anything yet have to say about Sanders is meaningless partisan tripe, IMHO.
Nitram
(22,907 posts)When the firewall comes down you get the ability to run queries in data sets to which you otherwise don't have access.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Hence the need for a full investigation.
Nitram
(22,907 posts)By all means, investigate fully. Sunlight is welcome.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)"The statement reiterated that during a "brief window" of unspecified duration, a limited amount of unauthorized data was viewable. However, NGP VAN stated that the affected data was not exportable, savable, or actionable"
http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-campaign-data-breach-controversy/
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Nor are there accusations of such, except from Clinton partisans.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)He apologized for his staff member viewing files - no data was stolen. His own actions are exemplary. He moved quickly and decisively and like a boss.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Not surprised.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Because it implodes their talking point.
I am betting DWS Hillary wish they should shut up though. They just want it to go away.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)On Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:07 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Debbie Wasserman Schultz launched a 'Political Suicide Bombing' of Sanders campaign
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251936172
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
DWS is the DNC Chairwoman. Making statements like this are not only over the top, but using violent hyperbolic language. This really doesn't belong here.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:10 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Metaphor. It was explained.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: DWS made a target of herself.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Another day, another ridiculous alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: reporter needs to follow the advice in the post
randome
(34,845 posts)It's not admirable.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)acolyte
[ak-uh-lahyt]
noun
3. any attendant, assistant, or follower.
randome
(34,845 posts)It's not a good place to be.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)I find the situation far more amusing than anything worth getting worked up about.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Throwing around baseless açcusations of theft! When will charges be filed?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)There must be some mechanism by which the administrators pull someone's privileges after 20+ failed Alerts. Seriously, this is getting ridiculous.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)Glad they got a shutout spanking from the jury for that foolishness.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)It seems they can't stand anything that is not in adoring worship and alert on it.
demwing
(16,916 posts)So are likely flooding the system with frivolous alerts in the hopes of getting a Clinton friendly jury and banning someone.
Classic bullshit.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)The sudden swarming is amazing.
randome
(34,845 posts)Is it 'swarming' when you get the equivalent of 'Yeah, man!' and 'Right on!' responses that amount to nothing more than pats on the back?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)The only two vices I have left are good coffee and good weed.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Good coffee, good weed, good wine, and good beer...all in moderation, except the coffee.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)"violent hyperbolic language" my ass.
Whats happened to this place is very sad.
Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)It's fashionable in the republican race. We should be better than that.
Justice
(7,188 posts)I am no fan of DWS but to say she launched a political suicide bombing is horrible. We are not the GOP. We are not Trump. Let's stop with the over the top extreme language. I thought people on DU could articulate their opinion without resorting to this.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Jokes on us, eh?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)She knew she was breaking the DNC contract, but thought it worth the legal repercussions, because she just KNEW it would destroy Sanders campaign.
Sanders campaign is highly energized by it and is now suing the pants off the DNC and now we will find out what dirty tricks were involved.
Lemonade!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)You're right, op, it's exactly like a suicide bomber.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Sometimes I don't think the language of The Revolution is very well thought out.
PosterChild
(1,307 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It is, however, a fitting metaphor for Debbie Wasserman Schulz's stupid stunt.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)what's up with the mixed metaphor? (making lemonade from the ashes of bombing?)
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)together two very different motifs.
Uncle Joe
(58,453 posts)Thanks for the thread, AgingAmerican.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I alerted this thread and it was already alerted and jurors voted to leave it.
After France and Santa Monica, where real people died, using this rhetoric is beyond UNCIVIL which is the word you seem to use when discussing the issues involved with alerts. It is openly offensive and disrespectful to the real people who died and their families.
Sanders supporters are so numerous they can control jury results. And that means they just keep going further and further over the line.
And Skinner just lets this crap go.
artislife
(9,497 posts)Old reference there.
Yeah, but what about the children of Afganistan, Libya, Honduras, Tunisia, Iraq.....
Actually, I believe this thread to be about data breach, but go on.....
The quickening is happening....
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)...about San Bernardino, Paris, and other senseless acts of violence. You're butthurt and whimpering for an altogether different reason, and you're trying to cloak this is fake concern for victims of mass gun violence and terrorism. Find some dumbasses gullible enough to buy the shit you're selling.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Spare the faux outrage.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Gang aft agley,
An' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy!
Robert Burns