2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLil' Debby Wassaman has turned this campaign into a real shit show but Bernie Sanders will fix it!
I have total faith and trust in him. Unheard of for a politician. He has the most integrity and he will not allow the democratic party to hijack our democratic process, or portray him as someone with little integrity. For 50 years, his record is clean.
Again, I smell a rat called : SET-UP
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They're the ones who turned it into a shit show.
Imagine if Hillary's campaign took Bernie's voter data...there would be unmitigated outrage on DU. Blood on the walls.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)they wanted to be sure you could work the data, and that they were not just looking at a HARMLESS SNAPSHOT on the screen. This is a violation, but the first time were told no data was shared and Bernie's camp believed it. The second time? Not so much.
After the first time we want to know if Hillary used Bernie's data now, as the Bernie camp caught the firewall lowered, once again!
The first time was in October, and funny thing in November, Bernie supporters were being called by the Hillary campaign, they did not sign up for.
Stealing is a very strong word. So be careful, because this is going to reveal more Clinton/DNC shenanigans.
You are parroting the word 'stealing'.
Now, what if you went to work, and opened your computer and Hillary's emails were there, would you not think you were hacked? Are YOU stealing Hillary's emails? Hardly.
This is in the lightest sense A VENDOR ERROR.
But, were any of them fired???????
concreteblue
(626 posts)Nobody " stole" anything, no matter how many times the Shrillaries scream it. And the fact is we do not know if the Clinton campaign also accessed private data, because Hillary wants to "move on". Of course she does!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bernie formally apologized in public before many millions for what they did.
concreteblue
(626 posts)And if they were, it has yet to be determined. We do not know nearly enough to say anything with certainty except that Shrillaries are slandering Senator Sanders and his campaign on an hourly basis on this site. Thanks for playing.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)knowingly accessed forbidden records belonging to another entity definitely broke laws in place to keep, for instance, Bank of America from accessing Wells Fargo records, or some school district from snooping through another's. Whether there are specific federal laws that would apply to this kind of malfeasance in a political campaign is undefined, but it would be strange if there were not. The FEC has a lot of regulations governing the behavior of candidates and campaigns.
Speaking the truth is not slander -- or even libel since this is in writing.
The question is: WHY are Bernie's followers so BUSY defending this records theft and going on and on about it, lying about it, flaming about it, when Bernie himself fired the people involved and formally apologized in front of millions? Bernie needs this in the past. Do these people somehow imagine they are somehow HELPING him? Or is it, as I suspect, just out-of-control followers indulging in bad behavior for their own enjoyment?
concreteblue
(626 posts)Especially since that did not happen. Please read any of the posts from IT professionals who all agree this type of "white hat" hacking is SOP when confronting a security breach that affects their data. The only people I have seen lying about it, are posters like yourself, who continue to try to pin 'stolen data", or, in your case, "theft" on the Sanders campaign. I am not in the habit of doing other's homework, but give me a minute and I will dig up the links to the statement from the vendor, which proves nothing was "stolen", and several articles from IT professionals deriding the SHillarie's attempts to color this non-event in that manner.
The real questions at this point are did the Clinton campaign see Sander's data, did they use it, and do they still have access to it. A real, full, independent investigation will show these things, as will the discovery phase of the lawsuit. No wonder Hillary wants to
"move on"!
concreteblue
(626 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)was undoubtedly vetted, or written outright, by their E & O carrier.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Bernie Will "Move On" Once the Full Investigation is coplete including communications from ALL Parties up to and Including candidate Clinton and Debbie...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Lil' Debbie is all I need to know. Cupcakes. Women. Isn't that cute and funny?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is working on fixing it. Good for him.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)His team knew they weren't supposed to, did it anyway.
Fire the head of the DNC, and anyone else that Bernie things has done him wrong. It's the logical thing to do.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)only those that need a straw man
Scuba
(53,475 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Unless of course it was just another misspeak or lie.
Hmmmm.......if it doesn't happen soon, some may begin to wonder why.
I think she and her campaign as well as Debbie Dearest would appreciate it if this would just fade away.
Taking one's time could also be seen as shredding the evidence aka cleaning the house for special visitors.
But yeah, you are spot on.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Bosnia/Snipers, Sir Edmund Hillary/Mom Named Me After Him... The list goes on.......................
Progressive dog
(7,189 posts)because he wanted to prove what a martyr he is. LOL
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)on what real Leadership is all about.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)zappaman
(20,607 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)She has affected the way I will be voting/supporting from here on out.
Also, there is no more astounding hypocrisy than being harangued about supporting Democrats "no matter what", when the DNC head openly supports GOP buddies, openly refuses to support Dems running against them, and openly supports the person who helped Katherine Harris steal the election in Florida. IMO, anyone who supports DWS is a DINO and is openly turning the Democratic Party into DINO territory. I will not support that. Because the eventual outcome is - not Democratic.
Renew Deal
(82,721 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It's clear what you did. Just because I'm getting use to it around here doesn't mean I won't call it out.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)When you are losing it is necessary to blame someone. If Bernie was winning no one would even know who DWS is.