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MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:47 AM Dec 2015

When a campaign period is reduced to talking

about bathroom breaks and actions of staffers on their own, it signals that the campaign is coming close to being over. Thank goodness voting will begin before too long. Thank goodness that we will soon have a clear idea of who the nominee will be. Thank goodness that we will soon be able to turn our criticism against Republicans, rather than taking cheap shots against Democratic candidates.

Bernie Sanders did not direct his staffers to poach on Clinton's proprietary data. Hillary Clinton needed to use the restroom during a break in the debate, but it was occupied and she needed her privacy. Neither thing has anything to do with either candidate's positions on issues. Neither thing will have any material effect on primary results.

I like both Hillary and Bernie, for different reasons. I'm supporting Clinton because I truly believe she has a better chance to win in November. I don't believe for a minute that Sanders knew anything about the data stuff, nor do I fault Hillary for wearing a long sweater thing or using the toilet.

I don't care about Bernie's bald spot or Hillary's pantsuits. They're both supporting things I also support, in slightly different ways. I'll gladly vote for either one in November, and will work toward the nominee's successful election.

It would be best, I think, to drop petty accusations against Democratic candidates for President. Leave that to the Republicans and right-wingers. They'll be doing it all the way until November.

Both Hillary and Bernie are honorable candidates for office. If their staffs misbehave or either of them misspeaks, it's not important. It won't affect the primaries. Those will take care of themselves and we'll eventually know who the nominee will be.

I want a Democrat as our next President. That's my highest priority. That's where my eyes and attention are focused. I think that's the best approach. I'll let Democratic voters decide who the nominee will be. They'll do that, regardless of any of our individual opinions. I get just one vote at my caucus.

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Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Great post, the Democratic candidates are running a good campaign.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:56 AM
Dec 2015

We know the GOP would like to see all Democratic candidates drop out of the race, this isn't going to happen. When I review the DNC debates and then the GOP debates, I just wonder where the GOP candidates fell off of the earth.

The DU mission of electing Democrats is the mission I take also. to work hard, get others out to vote and get them out to vote or caucus, we need to elect Democrats at every level, this is how sensible people are going to get in charge and stop the crazies of the GOP.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
2. Exactly. There's a very important job to do, and it's
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:01 PM
Dec 2015

not connected to who wins the Democratic nomination. That will take care of itself. I think I know who it will be, and that's fine with me. If it turns out the other way, that will be fine, too. Both of the viable candidates for the nomination are good people with valuable ideas to move this country forward.

I'm done with worrying about the primaries. They'll happen and we'll have a nominee. If the candidate I prefer doesn't get the nomination, then I'll prefer the one who does. I can't imagine any other way to think about this.

Dammit, we have to elect a Democrat to that office. If we do not, we'll have all three branches of government controlled by Republicans like Ted Cruz and the rest of the right-wing attack squad. They do not have the good of this country in mind.

Let the primaries make the decision about the nominee. I'm all in for either of the two leaders. All in.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
3. "because I truly believe she has a better chance to win in November"
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:00 PM
Dec 2015

So, it doesn't matter one bit about a candidate's policies and issue positions...? A person running with a D after their name and thinking they will when is your only criteria?

This is why America never progresses out from the right-wing.

That's rather insulting to the Democratic process.

And please note: Clinton will never win the general. Republicans hate her and real democrats know she is basically a republican. On the contrary, republicans will vote for Sanders and so will the majority of Dems.

There are not enough greedy rich people to vote for Clinton...

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
4. OK. It looks like you didn't actually read what I wrote.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:03 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary? Bernie? I'll gladly support either after the convention. I've stated my current support and my reasons for it.

You're welcome to your own point of view, of course.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
5. "I'm supporting Clinton because I truly believe she has a better chance to win in November"
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

Care to explain why?

Not trying to say you're wrong, just curious in why you would think that way.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
6. Hmmm,
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:22 PM
Dec 2015

You accidentally forgot to discuss the damage deliberately inflicted on the Sanders campaign by the supposedly even-handed DNC and DWS. Tell us how you feel about that because I can tell you as a Sanders supporter that until it is addressed this incident is not over.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
9. I didn't forget anything at all.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015

While you may not think it's over, it's not going to affect the outcome of the primaries at all, I think. If I'm wrong, we'll find out as they are held, won't we?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Really like the op but would like to take minor issue with one very small sentence.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

"I get just one vote at my caucus."

I guarantee, that in reality, you get more than that. I know I do. You have a statesman's approach and people like that. It alone equals more than one vote.

MineralMan

(146,336 posts)
10. When it comes right down to it, yes, just one vote.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:33 PM
Dec 2015

I don't really campaign for anyone during the primaries. Until there is a nominee, I just work on getting to know the legislative candidates so I can vote for and support the ones I like the best.

Presidential elections are not really my central focus.

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