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iandhr

(6,852 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:46 PM Dec 2015

From Daily Kos: BREAKING SCANDAL: Democratic Presidential candidate has Democratic Party connections

BREAKING: We’ve come to realize, especially now via the ethical and moral investigating that the Bernie Sanders campaign’s data team (and subsequent unbiased sources), that the following MAY BE TRUE:

1. Hillary Clinton MAY have been supported by Democratic politicians in the past, and that many of them may STILL favor her in the nomination process

2. As a long-time establishment Democratic politician, it’s POSSIBLE that regular Democratic donors and lobbysists DONATED AND WORKED FOR HER IN THE PAST

3. That members of the DNC POSSIBLY KNEW AND LIKED Hillary Clinton before the 2016 race began, and still do

4. That MANY Democrats, politicians and voters alike, have SOME LOYALTY to the Democratic Party and may look upon someone who has been a longtime leader and member as preferable to someone who has not been.


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/22/1462762/-BREAKING-SCANDAL-Democratic-Presidential-candidate-has-Democratic-Party-conections

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From Daily Kos: BREAKING SCANDAL: Democratic Presidential candidate has Democratic Party connections (Original Post) iandhr Dec 2015 OP
... MoonRiver Dec 2015 #1
#4. Hillary has had the back of the party since 68', Bill since birth. Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #2
So what about us lifelong Democrats who don't want the Clintons to own the whole party? madfloridian Dec 2015 #11
Since they have so much influence, how about a rule change? tecelote Dec 2015 #17
Bernie has had the back of human beings for, what, 30 years? pangaia Dec 2015 #16
30 years... heck no! He got arrested in 1962 or '63 fighting against segregation. A Simple Game Dec 2015 #19
Thanks. ! pangaia Dec 2015 #28
Hillary was a Goldwater Girl ... Jarqui Dec 2015 #46
That post is a reaction to a post before it...PLUS a link to an important article. madfloridian Dec 2015 #3
Fired his National Data Director, suspended others, more on the way. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7
I got a message on my private email from a lady from the Kos asking me to sign a petition, and in DhhD Dec 2015 #63
K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #4
OMG they are all playing politics comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #5
Thread winner! yardwork Dec 2015 #14
And the American people hate politicians. That's why the majority of them don't vote. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #20
This. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #40
Excellent. Hoyt Dec 2015 #6
Thanks for sharing. Love post number two as well. K&R nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #8
From the DNC Charter Matariki Dec 2015 #9
Keep posting that from the charter. madfloridian Dec 2015 #12
Indeed, but I don't have much faith that it matters Matariki Dec 2015 #34
and this. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #41
Great quote. madfloridian Dec 2015 #53
Yep, that seems to be the case zeemike Dec 2015 #65
+1 nt. nc4bo Dec 2015 #22
+2 nt Duval Dec 2015 #30
+3 coyote Dec 2015 #33
Bingo !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #35
Yes--This is the part that went WHOOOSH--over the OP's head. panader0 Dec 2015 #49
When you don't have an ethical or moral compass, you don't realize when you are off coarse. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #59
That's pretty good! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #10
and that is part of the reason why the majority of the country doesn't vote. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #13
K&R Alfresco Dec 2015 #15
All those DEMOCRATS who have known her for decades and like her..... George II Dec 2015 #18
Hey George--are you a Democrat? panader0 Dec 2015 #50
Why do you ask? George II Dec 2015 #52
I dunno--- I had you figured for a Tory. panader0 Dec 2015 #54
Do you even know what a "Tory" is? I think not. George II Dec 2015 #57
I asked you a question and you responded with two questions. panader0 Dec 2015 #58
Yep. Are you a Democrat? George II Dec 2015 #60
Do you even know what a Democrat is? I think not. panader0 Dec 2015 #61
So you're saying that Hillary knows people???? R B Garr Dec 2015 #21
My God man! NuclearDem Dec 2015 #23
Could be part of the DaVinci code leftofcool Dec 2015 #48
Hillary's DNC friends treated Bernie as if he were the ENEMY. That's a problem. reformist2 Dec 2015 #24
And his plan to endear himself with the party by stealing their shit and subsequently suing them NuclearDem Dec 2015 #27
Calling it "his plan" is the kind of thing I'm talking about... reformist2 Dec 2015 #31
Yup. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #42
Have you seen all the things Sanders has been saying about Democrats over the years? George II Dec 2015 #55
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2015 #25
Which apparently makes it okay to cheat Android3.14 Dec 2015 #26
OMG! Democrats supporting a Democrat! They are all evil! leftofcool Dec 2015 #29
So an umpire can call a ball a strike because he/she likes one team more? Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #32
Like Axelrod Said... Thumb On The Scale... WillyT Dec 2015 #36
Lack of ethics likely plays a large part in their inability to grasp that. frylock Dec 2015 #39
That is a stronger position than I am willing to take. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #45
Ethics tend to hinder ones ability to look the other way. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #47
I agree. n/t PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #51
It's why Clinton is going to lose. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #44
You'd never know it. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #37
Is this an admission that Debbie's DNC is in the tank for Hillary? frylock Dec 2015 #38
LOL treestar Dec 2015 #43
I need a fainting couch!! Stat!!! Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #56
that's not even good snide garbage, it's just dishonest garbage stupidicus Dec 2015 #62
If so loved? Geronimoe Dec 2015 #64

Dawson Leery

(19,568 posts)
2. #4. Hillary has had the back of the party since 68', Bill since birth.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:54 PM
Dec 2015

Bernie since September 2015.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
11. So what about us lifelong Democrats who don't want the Clintons to own the whole party?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:16 PM
Dec 2015

I have respected them for their contributions, but now I think the centrist think tanks got too firm a hold on all of us.

tecelote

(5,156 posts)
17. Since they have so much influence, how about a rule change?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

Let us Democrats elect who is in key positions within the Democratic National Committee.

It would be the democratic thing to do.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
19. 30 years... heck no! He got arrested in 1962 or '63 fighting against segregation.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:57 PM
Dec 2015

So I would say for at least 50 years.

Not sure if he supported Goldwater, who was one of the most conservative politicians at the time, before that.

Jarqui

(10,909 posts)
46. Hillary was a Goldwater Girl ...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:47 PM
Dec 2015

At college, she was President of the Young Republicans and interned with Republicans in Washington.
By around '69 or '70 she made the transition to the Dems.

Bernie was working on social causes before he was out of high school and went into fighting for civil rights causes (like against segregation) in his early college years.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
3. That post is a reaction to a post before it...PLUS a link to an important article.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:58 PM
Dec 2015

Here is the original diary there:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/12/22/1462664/-DNC-Data-Breach-Reveals-a-Lot-More-Than-Hillary-s-and-Maybe-Bernie-s-Campaign-Data

Here is the article that diary links to, conveniently left out of the diary you posted.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/bernie-sanders-dnc-data-breach-217016

Sanders data controversy spotlights powerful gatekeeper

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Fired his National Data Director, suspended others, more on the way.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:11 PM
Dec 2015

Are you sure there was a gatekeeper? Seems they just hired one.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
63. I got a message on my private email from a lady from the Kos asking me to sign a petition, and in
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:25 PM
Dec 2015

doing so, I would be joining the Hillary Campaign. I cannot support a 1%er or Democratic Party conservative, against Bernie Sanders, unless that candidate wins the primary. Glad to see others realize that the Daily Kos is apparently supporting Clinton in the Primary.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
9. From the DNC Charter
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

The National Chairperson shall serve full time and shall receive such compensation as
may be determined by agreement between the Chairperson and the Democratic National Committee. In
the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee,
particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the
Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and
campaigns.
The Chairperson shall be responsible for ensuring that the national officers and staff of the
Democratic National Committee maintain impartiality and evenhandedness during the Democratic Party
Presidential nominating process.

http://berksdems.org/sites/default/files/dnc_bylaws.pdf

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
34. Indeed, but I don't have much faith that it matters
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:26 PM
Dec 2015

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - my new favorite Upton Sinclair quote.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
65. Yep, that seems to be the case
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:35 PM
Dec 2015

It don't matter to them...those are just words, nothing to be taken seriously.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
59. When you don't have an ethical or moral compass, you don't realize when you are off coarse. nt
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:11 PM
Dec 2015

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. and that is part of the reason why the majority of the country doesn't vote.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:18 PM
Dec 2015

The entire system is rigged and corrupt and the American people know it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. All those DEMOCRATS who have known her for decades and like her.....
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:55 PM
Dec 2015

.....should be drummed out of the Democratic Party immediately. How dare they!

(I better add this

panader0

(25,816 posts)
58. I asked you a question and you responded with two questions.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:10 PM
Dec 2015

How cute.

.(in the UK) a member or supporter of the Conservative Party

panader0

(25,816 posts)
61. Do you even know what a Democrat is? I think not.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:16 PM
Dec 2015

Five generations here laddie.

P.S. Don't forget to vote--oh wait --you Canadians can't vote in the US elections--so sorry.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
23. My God man!
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

A Democrat who knows other Democrats and is liked by other Democrats?

You've unearthed a subtrefuge so diabolically atrocious it makes my nipples tingle with fear! Could this phenomenon be the work of the Illuminati?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
27. And his plan to endear himself with the party by stealing their shit and subsequently suing them
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:14 PM
Dec 2015

for their shit having been stolen was so intricately woven!

George II

(67,782 posts)
55. Have you seen all the things Sanders has been saying about Democrats over the years?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:01 PM
Dec 2015

He's treated Democrats as if they were the enemy. THAT is a problem.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
32. So an umpire can call a ball a strike because he/she likes one team more?
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

Situational ethics are unethical. Why can't some Clinton supporters grasp that simple truth?



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
45. That is a stronger position than I am willing to take.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 05:40 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe they are just short sighted.


Maybe they honestly believe that sometimes the end justifies the means.


I don't understand it, but assuming that they themselves are unethical is something I can't do.


 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
62. that's not even good snide garbage, it's just dishonest garbage
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:17 PM
Dec 2015

that does little to distract from the many legitimate reasons why someone might think that impartiality is non-existent with DWS and therefore the org.

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