When Secretary Clinton says...

[sonofspy777]

Sanders: Now, when Secretary Clinton says, "I'm not going raise taxes on the middle class," let me tell you what she is saying. She is disagreeing with FDR on Social Security, LBJ on Medicare and with the vast majority of progressive Democrats in the House and the Senate, who today are fighting to end the disgrace of the United States being the only major country on Earth that doesn't provide paid family and medical leave.

What the legislation is is $1.61 a week. Now, you can say that's a tax on the middle class. It will provide three months paid family and medical leave for the working families of this country. I think, Secretary Clinton, $1.61 a week is a pretty good invest. (sic)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/19/3rd-democratic-debate-transcript-annotated-who-said-what-and-what-it-meant/

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, sonofspy.

[AzDar]

2. K & R

[Motown_Johnny]

3. Don't worry, she doesn't mean it.

Unless of course, that in itself is a reason to worry.

[Faux pas]

4. K N R

[mindwalker_i]

5. Wasn't it just a month or two ago...

that Hillary briefly tacked left, and a bunch of us were all, "yeah, bullshit," while her synchophants hailed her as a great progressive?

Yeah, bullshit!

Even with a good job, I pay hundreds a month for healthcare, so $1.61, hell, I'll happily go up to $2 or $5, would be great. The tax-cut land in Republican territory, and Hillary is deep in it.

[NorthCarolina]

6. I think it's a pretty good investment as well,

along with Bernies planned investments in education and medical access for ALL of our people. Like Cornel West said: "Bernie; he touches our humanity". For me, nothing could be more true than that.

[gordyfl]

7. Bernie's Right

Hillary's wrong.

Paid family and medical leave should be a right. A dollar sixty-one is more than reasonable.

[TIME TO PANIC]

8. K & R !

[JDPriestly]

9. I'm with Bernie on this one.

Hillary doesn't have to worry about money to pay for her kids and grandkids education or their healthcare or for family leave for her loved ones.

The rest of us -- or most of the rest of us do.

Social Security is the best investment I ever made -- bar none. Best investment.

Raise the cap on the Social Security tax and insure that it will always be there for everyone.

You may think you are wealthy today, but you do not know what will happen to you. A fall. A gunshot. An accident. An illness.

And you may never work again and, if you are lucky enough to have savings, you will live on them until they are gone, and then you will rely on some sort of government assistance.

Social Security is a Godsend.

Thank you Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

And Medicare is the only feasible way to cover the high costs of healthcare for the elderly. Private insurance could not do it. Too costly.

Thank you, Lyndon B. Johnson.

And thank you Bernie Sanders for the proposals you have to continue the tradition begun by LBJ and FDR for us to pool our resources to help cover the costs of the inevitable events in our life -- for education and for the birth of a child.

[Doctor_J]

10. But Mrs Clinton doesn't want to pay for medical leave for trumps family

And since she makes only $250,000 per speech, the $1.61 will require sacrifice on her part.

Also most of her supporters despise the liberalism of FDR and lbj.

[Enthusiast]

11. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

If I wanted to adopt Trickle Down I would be a Republican. Fuck Grover Norquist.

[AlbertCat]

15. If I wanted to adopt Trickle Down I would be a Republican.

Exactly.

Trickle Down and Preemptive Strikes.

No thanks "no-raise-taxes-boots-on-the-ground" Hillary!

[Enthusiast]

16. This is shocking, really.

She isn't even hiding it now.

[daleanime]

12. Yes it is.

[CharlotteVale]

13. I am on a fixed income and I will gladly pay the fucking $1.61 a week.

[dana_b]

22. me too

If I can get healthcare from the government, others should be able too (and I mean better than the Affordable Care Act).

[Duval]

14. K&R!

[questionseverything]

17. i am a huge bernie supporter but i really do not support this bill at this time

i want the 1% to be taxed first to accomplish what the 99% needs........if we ever accomplish something in that direction and then need to increase middle class taxes, ok but

i want to start by raising taxes on the 1%.period

i also do not agree with raising the ss cap which would hurt working families and drive higher pay outs down the road

i want a ,skip and tax plan, meaning leave the cap where it is and add a tax on multimillionaires that feeds into ss but is not used in the payment to that individual when they retire

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[HoneychildMooseMoss]

19. How would raising the Social Security cap hurt working families?

How many working people earn more than $118,500 a year?

[questionseverything]

21. i would rather we set the working family definition higher

maybe at like half a million a year (for a couple) so they would identify with the 99% which they are a part of, wether they know it or not

but let me ask you, why raise taxes on that 118,500 family while letting the guy making 5 mill a year completely off the hook?

why not have the koch brothers that are making billions a year pay first?

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

23. Half a million a year is definitely not "working family"

In most states, that puts you in the top 1%.

Once again, how many working people (plumbers, nurses, firemen, mechanics, etc.) are making anywhere near even the current cap?

[questionseverything]

25. i would make the cut off high so those folks would side with the 99.99%

a couple making a half mill a year are not the problem, it is the koch brother types making 30 billion plus a year that are the trouble and have the resources to help the 99.99% without it changing their lives in any real way

why tax the bottom before taxing he top?

[99Forever]

18. What party does Clinton claim to be in?

Why is she going Grover Norquist?

[Juicy_Bellows]

20. Well she is a moderate and a progressive.

She's whatever the wind blows.

[CorporatistNation]

24. She Is Thinking About Just How Much That Will Co$T Her In Corp CA$H If She

Advocated for that by FOLLOWING Bernie's Policy...

[earthside]

26. She is operating under the delusion ...

... that if she says it right, she will get votes from the right in the general election (if she by chance gets the nomination).

I heard a Repuglican on a talk radio show the other day say that he didn't want to ever vote for Trump, nevertheless he would crawl over broken glass to keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House.

So, she wants to keep her banker/corporate sponsors and Clinton Foundation contributors happy, but also thinks she can get s few Repuglicans to vote for her ... and the base of the Democratic Party are just whiny peons who will vote for her because they have no choice.