Hillary Clinton, LEAVE Our Grandmothers Out Of It

[Segami]

(CNN) She had to go there.

On Tuesday morning, Hillary Clinton's campaign released a post on her campaign site with the headline "Seven ways Hillary Clinton is just like your abuela." "Abuela" is the Spanish word for "grandmother," so presumably this list was designed to appeal to potential Latino voters. On the list were items such as, "She reads to you before bedtime" and "she had one word for Donald Trump ... 'Basta!' Enough!"


With all respect, Clinton's latest effort to connect with Latinos is beyond lame. Her campaign's list is an example of "Hispandering" at its worst. It is condescending to Latinos and has generated deserved pushback on social media. Clinton is an intelligent, accomplished woman and certainly presidential material. But let's be clear: She is not "just like" my abuela or those of most Latino voters. My grandmother did not go to Wellesley College and Yale Law School; she was fortunate to finish grade school. My grandmother did not give speeches for $200,000 a pop at Goldman Sachs; for most of her life, she cleaned other people's houses. My grandmother raised seven children In El Paso, Texas, yet did not live long enough to know most of her grandchildren.


The problem with Clinton's attempt at Latino outreach is that it talks down to Hispanic voters. The "Seven ways" posting seems to have been put together with little thought, as it consists mostly of GIFs and photos. The "reads to you before bedtime" item, which is accompanied by a picture of Clinton with two children who are not her grandchildren, appears to have been taken during the day. Her "one word for Donald Trump" is actually two words -- "Basta! Enough!" -- and "Basta" is not a commonly used expression. ("Ya," which also means "enough," might have been better.) What is conspicuously missing from this not-so-helpful list is any substantive discussion of the issues that matter to Latinos.


No wonder this effort backfired. By Tuesday evening, the hashtag "NotMyAbuela" was trending on Twitter. Latinos were quick to note the dissimilarities between their grandmothers and Clinton, saying, "My Abuelas survived poverty, abusive husbands, and dictatorships -- Hillary wears designer pantsuits" and "My Abuela worked as a meat cutter in a packing house until she was 66 years old." (@metalbones59). Others raised important policy points, such as "Unlike HRC, my grandmother's bills aren't paid for by lobbyists, PACs, and private prisons" (@lowsell) and "My abuela wouldn't support the deportation of central american child migrants to the violent countries they tried to flee from" (@paulinecstasy). The negative reaction was so bad that the Clinton campaign later changed its original headline from "Seven ways Hillary Clinton is just like your abuela" to "7 things Hillary Clinton has in common with your abuela."


cont'

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/23/opinions/reyes-hillary-clinton-latino-voters-abuela-post/

[tazkcmo]

1. She's so folksy.

Just like my grandma.

[NCTraveler]

3. Your grandmother is an impressive woman with impressive credentials.

She must keep good company if she is just like Clinton.

[tazkcmo]

7. Not really.

My grandma hangs with some really questionable people and nobody outside of her closest friends trust her. One day she'll say one thing, the next the exact opposite. She simply refuses to admit to grandpa's philandering and claims she has to dodge gun fire on her daily trips to the bank. She's not a very good person.

[pangaia]

29. LOL !!!

[senz]

58. + 1 on the LOL

Very well done.

[840high]

78. Heehee - good one.

[azmom]

83. Well done.

[NCTraveler]

2. Someone has a sad.

Sanders supporters are now against everything. Stopped fighting for things. The signs are clear.

[Segami]

6. Wake up. It's NOT Bernie Sanders supporters who are "sad"

Social media have pegged Hillary on her 'hispandering' bang on!

Unfortunately, YOU still want to turn this into a Bernie/Hillary food fight .........

[NCTraveler]

10. Sanders supporters haven't figured this out yet.

Just because it matches your worldview and can be found on the internet, doesn't mean there is much backing.

Someone said on the internet is a pretty shoddy way to confirm your preconceived notions.

Have at it.

[Segami]

14. This is your directive, not mine.

Hillary is a quick-change artist surrounded by focus-group advisors who instruct her as to which outfit she must wear in order to accommodate their targeted venues.........in this case, the outfit they choose to produce this ad should be called 'hipandering ole'.

FYI, It was Hillary's campaign sharp-shooters who made these decisions, not Bernie supporters........

[NCTraveler]

15. There you go again.

I think you aren't going to figure it out until the voting starts.

"Someone on the internet says" is a very poor way to confirm ones flawed world view. The lesson will be taught soon.

[Segami]

16. Keep repeating... I welcome your bump.

[NCTraveler]

18. I really don't mind this being bumped over and over again.

These are the attacks that bring more support to Clinton.

[Segami]

21. Sure they do.....such thinking and a buck

won't buy you a cup of coffee.

But,....if it comforts you to say such, knock yourself out.

[NCTraveler]

22. We will revisit this after Super Tuesday.

[Segami]

24. Would you like a 'Wake Up' call?

[NCTraveler]

26. Sure. Would love one. Kick this up the afternoon of Super Tuesday.

Never thought of you as room service but that is really kind.

[Segami]

30. Just a courtesy, not a service....

[NCTraveler]

32. On Super Tuesday your courtesy will be servise to me. lol.

You will understand when you revisit this in a bit.

[Segami]

36. Stop rubbing your hands together....

A rude awakening might be lurking around the corner.

[NCTraveler]

39. Agree.

[artislife]

37. You are just someone on the internet.

Why should we take what you say to be the real world view? Ha!

[NCTraveler]

41. I never said you should.

With the recent banning of a long time member here who supported Reagan and then McCain/Palin, I would take everything you read here with a grain of salt. The exact opposite of your flawed assumption.

[Scootaloo]

45. Really? Which Clinton supporter got banned?

[NCTraveler]

46. Where did I say a Clinton supporter got banned?

Now a second extremely flawed assumption. When all that's left is........

[Scootaloo]

47. Well, a reagan / McCain supporter.

I already knew Clinton supporters jumped for McCain 'cause they couldn't stomach the idea of a black president, and I not too long ago saw several Clinton supporters rallying around Reaganomics. So. Which one was it?

[JTFrog]

53. Must have been Third-Way Manny.

[Scootaloo]

54. Satire must not function for some people

[JTFrog]

56. Like Third Way Manny?

His schtick was visible from outer space.

Happy Holidays... got a plane to catch!

[tazkcmo]

8. Oh my.

"Stopped fighting for things." Like single payer healthcare that Hilary has given up on?

[stupidicus]

59. someone posts a subject change

HC supporters do this all the time as tacit concessions that they have no intelligent rebuttal to the critiques of their wouldbe leader.

DO you think the party/parties complaining about HC attempting to rudely and stupidly endear herself to their demo are being a bit uppity as well? How dare they verbally assault her, no? You should go on twitter and tell them to what, just sit down and shut up because of what, the inevitability of HC's ascension to the throne?

[randome]

4. OMG! A post on her campaign site! How horrible!

This isn't even amusing any longer. It's pathetic.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

[EndElectoral]

5. Hispandering...good word...

[ecstatic]

9. She's not my grandmother, and Bernie is nothing like my grandfather

(Because I've seen that meme floating around as well...) Silly strategy. I wonder who comes up with this stuff?

[Segami]

12. Well...Bernie is NOT making the claim

that he's like anybody's grandfather with exception to his own grandchildren.

[tazkcmo]

13. Link?

I thank you in advance for the link showing us when the Sanders campaign has compared him to our grandfathers. Other than that, yes, it is silly. That's what the folks are pointing out.

[ecstatic]

19. I didn't say his campaign was behind it, but many of his

supporters are running with the grandpa idea:

"Bernie Sanders, Your Cool Socialist Grandpa"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251862349

Grumpy old Grandpa...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128029023

From a young follower: We trust Bernie. He is the grandpa of American youth
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251785224

Quote from OP I think Bernie Sanders has a shot:
"Bernie on the other hand has the right "Grandfather" look that middle America will connect with. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026615664

[pangaia]

33. You do understand the difference....don't you?

[artislife]

38. Obviously not! nt

[ecstatic]

44. Duh... It's an annoying comparison

Regardless of who does it (campaign vs. supporters). I've made that clear in every post.

[Le Taz Hot]

55. Bernie never claimed he was like your grandfather.

A few supporters have said that he reminds them of their grandfather. Clinton's was a strategy because it came from the campaign. Bernie's was not a strategy. That's the difference.

[daybranch]

11. Hillary does not get it. She never spoke to anyone except the elite on her listening tour.

As an elite, she always knows better than us little people. She just does not get us. It is hard to love someone like that, no matter her pronouncements. Hillary says whatever she thinks will make her likable but she just is not likable. She thinks it is a matter of style and appearance, but people are interested in values and hers do no0t match those of a people who are sick of the oligarchy .

[NCTraveler]

17. "She never spoke to anyone except the elite on her listening tour."

Flat out lie. No one interested in facts would call it anything other than a blatant lie. Things are becoming transparent.

[SwampG8r]

27. You are right

Many of her listening tour victims were likely preselected actors.reading lines she gave them to read
Like she did in 2008

[NCTraveler]

28. Disgusting right wing crap.

"Listening victims"

That is some freerepublic shit. So sick of seeing it here. Keep promoting lies. Seems all that is left.

I take it the east side of Gainesville isn't really your thing. You are more of a Rodman Reservoir kind of Gator. Met many of them my years at UF.

[artislife]

40. What is this? Florida shade? hee nt

[SwampG8r]

63. Trying to gator shame me lol

As if
I am considered an alum in Gainesville because i am married to a masters level nursing
alum. Got family livi g there
As if some bozo with north carolina in his name has any gator cred
Gator nation supports bernie

[SwampG8r]

60. Your adorable with your attempts at

Passive aggressive snark

[NCTraveler]

64. You aren't even close to the first person to call me adorable. I appreciate it.

Starting to get a little ego. lol.

[SwampG8r]

66. Its adorable you can see the ego

Sweet as honey

[oasis]

42. "Victims" or "actors" ? Can't be both.

[pangaia]

34. I loved that turn od phrase they used.. "listening tour"

[SCantiGOP]

70. Only talks to the elite?

Thank you so much. As a long-time member of the SC Democratic Party I have met her on 6 different occasions over the years. Didn't know that made me an elite 1% Wall Street power broker.
This OP is beyond ridiculous; it smacks of frustration and desperation.

[stupidicus]

73. then go on twitter and straighten them out no?

oh that's right, no matter how frustrated and desperate you get it'll never result in that much courage eh....

[redstateblues]

20. It's outrageous that HRC is a grandmother!

Toddlers in the White House! Disgusting. I share your righteous anger.

[Segami]

23. I don't share your distortion of the OP.

But nice try.

[JoePhilly]

25. Mom, Grandma is making faces at me again!!!

[peacebird]

31. Hillary's Hispandering, rhymes with Bill's ....

[840high]

79. ....

[LuvLoogie]

35. ¡Aye! Qué lástima.

Los pochos se pusieron tristes. Pobrecitos.

[okasha]

84. Otra vez.

No entiendio porque ellos no se cansan de su propia locura.

[WillyT]

43. "Hispandering" - Perfect !!!

& Rec !!!

[cali]

48. It's condescending, but not of much importance to me.

[mgmaggiemg]

49. you are not a grandmother

you don't speak for grandmothers Cheers, Maggie

[retrowire]

50. eww mother president?

we're electing a president not a mommy.

we're all adults here. that's some stupid pandering there.

I don't see Bernie saying, here's how Bernie's just like your grandpa.

[Purveyor]

51. Just wait until Chelsea's pregnancy becomes the center

Attraction during the campaign...

[Nitram]

57. Purveyor, I just the same suggestion on Fox News via Newshounds.

Floating a baseless conspiracy theory designed to smear Chelsea Clinton and her mother is just part of The O’Reilly Factor’s mission of “looking out for you,” apparently. 

Subbing for Bill O’Reilly, host Eric Bolling discussed the news that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant with her second child – Fox News style: by using what should have been good news to make Hillary Clinton look bad.

Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/fox_s_bolling_suggests_chelsea_clinton_timed_her_pregnancy_to_help_her_mother_122115#2AAubQBdGTTSR6dM.99

[Purveyor]

75. You don't think the shameless clintons will milk it for all its worth? Of course they will and

more...

[Nitram]

82. Looks like you are the one milking the bogus right wing talking point, Purveyor. nt

[Purveyor]

85. When opportunity knocks, indeed.

[stonecutter357]

52. typical Bernie supporter.

[mountain grammy]

61. Please, don't be like my bubbie, who was a bit of a religious fanatic..

[treestar]

62. So what are the 7 ways?

it's merely figurative.

And the bitterness! Little old ME and MY abuela never went to Yale! If people are so superior for surviving poverty and abusive husbands, maybe they should run and emphasize that.

[LuvLoogie]

72. Lets see, my Grandmother was the hardest working woman I knew. Now my wife is.

Hillary is definitely the hardest working candidate in this race and may be the hardest working woman in politics.

My Grandmother was completely devoted to her children.

Hillary was/is completely devoted to Chelsea. She shielded and protected her from the petiness opposition of politics, and raised a Stanford, Colmbia, Oxford grad.

My Grandmother had a great sense of humor. Hillary, obviously, has a great sense of humor.

My Grandmother worked well with others and was very popular in her village. Hillary might have the largest network of any
woman on the planet. Two gregarious women.

Babysitting.

Changing diapers.

Feeding...

[Duval]

65. She shot herself in the foot with this ill advised post!

[bvf]

68. Over all, her campaign's pretty tone-deaf.

I suppose it has to be, given how her stance on so many things has changed (and will no doubt keep changing).

[senz]

67. "Maybe try discussing our issues, not pandering and patronizing, in order to get our votes."

- Glas Canon

#NotMyAbuela Check it out on Twitter. Latinos know when they're being played.

(Thanks as always, Segami. Remember, don't let them bait you.)

[SoapBox]

69. Her campaign is lame.

Nothing learned from 2008 and when she loses this time around, she still won't be able to figure it out. She and her "team" try everything but consistent issues discussions...but when you flip and fop and spin and attack...and are for big money, big power, War Hawking, Entrenched Establishment...you can't just discuss issues.

Pathetic.

[nyabingi]

71. Republicans tell people of color that

they think we're stupid on a daily basis, but people like Hillary and her campaign do it don't even know they're doing it.

She's such an elitist snob and her Republicaness is getting harder for her contain it seems.

[stupidicus]

74. too funny -- maybe HC should start a "Grandma's for clusterbombs" group

so her supporters can have a sad when we critique it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

76. My grandma was an Irish immigrant and socialist who made profane comments about politicians

like Hillary.

[KittyWampus]

77. "my mother cleaned houses", because all Latina mothers clean houses?

Because being a mother is about what you do for a living and how much you make?

[4139]

80. Oy vey, next she'll be bubbe!

[Babel_17]

81. I, for one, embrace our new matriarchal overlord

Secretary Clinton being sold as being a strong leader/matriarch is what's actually going on. No Sale, I guess.