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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:19 AM Dec 2015

The Secret Keeper: Jules Kroll and the world of corporate intelligence.

This is a fascinating look at Kroll Inc in the New Yorker in 2009. This is the company that is doing the audit for the DNC.

Somehow I get a strange feeling that it is Goliath vs David. They do business around the world, and they are doing the DNC audit. Seems strange.

No way to post enough excerpts to cover the article effectively without breaking copyright rules.

The Secret Keeper

A Nigerian student asked Kroll to come to his country as so many were being killed.

“O.K.,” Kroll said, one hand outstretched as if to steady the young man. “O.K.” Kroll’s gaze—he has big, slightly bulging pale eyes—did not leave the Nigerian’s. “We are there. We’ve been to Nigeria about ten times in the past year or two. People exist there who want to turn things around. It’s a very tough environment. But we are there.” He asked the young man to write down his contact information.

A student from Germany asked how Kroll had the authority to conduct investigations. Wasn’t that role reserved for the police?

“No” was the short answer. Kroll needed a license to operate, that was all. Kroll then told a story about an American telecommunications company that was being extorted by Turkish hackers in Germany. The F.B.I. was not ready to get involved, so the company brought in Kroll. Kroll sent an operative into the hackers’ midst, quickly gathering enough evidence to interest the F.B.I. “This is how I make my living,” Kroll said. “The F.B.I. is busy.”

Actually, that’s not how Kroll has made his living, or, at least, not most of it. Breaking up extortion rings, nailing dictators—that’s the Marvel Comics version of Jules Kroll’s career. Kroll really made his living, and his name, on Wall Street. He owed his success not to Spider-Man but to Goldman Sachs and Skadden Arps and a long list of corporations, law firms, investment banks, management consultants, hedge funds, and brokerage houses. Kroll likes to say, “Sunlight is a wonderful antiseptic.” But he and his company have been more highly valued for keeping things in the dark than for the occasional, client-approved exposé. They are the keepers of innumerable embarrassing, probably career-destroying, possibly corporation-destroying secrets. Jules Kroll may pose, credibly, as a crusader for truth and justice, but his life has been more interesting than that.

Kroll is widely credited with having created an industry where there was none. Call it corporate intelligence.


The Courthouse News Service calls it a curious choice for the DNC audit.
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The Secret Keeper: Jules Kroll and the world of corporate intelligence. (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2015 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #1
Hi Uncle Joe, thanks for the rec and kick madfloridian Dec 2015 #4
thanks grasswire Dec 2015 #2
lol me too. madfloridian Dec 2015 #3
More about Kroll in this thread. madfloridian Dec 2015 #5
Is the independent audit still lurking within the lawsuit? aspirant Dec 2015 #6
I know Weaver just said the lawsuit was being pursued. madfloridian Dec 2015 #7
It appears to be the same dodge BP used in our Texas City, Texas explosion case. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #8
Reminds me of the Gulf Oil Spill negotiations. madfloridian Dec 2015 #9
I think I've seen this movie before passiveporcupine Dec 2015 #10
Exactly. madfloridian Dec 2015 #11
They are independent. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #23
Kick! FloriTexan Dec 2015 #12
Kick....Sounds pretty cloak & dagger.... Segami Dec 2015 #13
and hardly unbiased. Why not just hire Halliburton or DynCorp? Dyn was caught ViseGrip Dec 2015 #14
Neither candidate should approve of this. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #15
It really sounds odd. madfloridian Dec 2015 #16
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #17
I linked to your post. madfloridian Dec 2015 #19
More suspicious bullshit. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #18
Avon v Mary Kay, Jordache v Guess. madfloridian Dec 2015 #20
k and r panader0 Dec 2015 #21
After reading this I figured out what's going on. The Sanders supporters are afraid of the truth Renew Deal Dec 2015 #22
Actually, no. madfloridian Dec 2015 #24

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
7. I know Weaver just said the lawsuit was being pursued.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 03:19 AM
Dec 2015

Not sure how it relates to the audit.

I hope they stay tough about the lawsuit.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
8. It appears to be the same dodge BP used in our Texas City, Texas explosion case.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 03:29 AM
Dec 2015

They killed 15 and injured thousands, hours after the explosion an email was sent asking if it would be "too transparent to have George W. Bush appoint James Baker and his law firm to independently investigate the cause(s) of the explosion. A couple of months later Bush did just that. Amazingly, their findings almost mirrored BP's, it was the lowly operator's fault, not all of the shortcuts and cost cutting done by management in a single refinery that was making 1 billion in PROFIT a year! (Sarcasm)

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
9. Reminds me of the Gulf Oil Spill negotiations.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 03:43 AM
Dec 2015

They got away with so much. Wasn't Baker Botts involved it that as well?

And Ken Feinberg as negotiator. Pathetic settlement for Florida and the Gulf is still dying.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2015/04/feinberg_bp_oil_spill_fund.html

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
10. I think I've seen this movie before
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 04:44 AM
Dec 2015
Kroll "a sort of private CIA for the powerful


The audit should be assigned by someone independent of the DNC, or Hillary or Bernie campaigns.
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
14. and hardly unbiased. Why not just hire Halliburton or DynCorp? Dyn was caught
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:48 AM
Dec 2015

trafficking women AND children out of Bosnia... under Bill Clinton. And, strangely, Obama just gave them ANOTHER contract. Why is this all going on? I would say because the people control nothing anymore, not even their own vote. This is becoming very apparent now to more people, just watching the democratic primary process.
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http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11119
US: DynCorp Disgrace

by Kelly Patricia O'Meara, Insight Magazine
January 14th, 2002

Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben
Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew
the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing
business in Bosnia.

According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft mechanic, "in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees and supervisors from DynCorpwere engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior [and] were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and [participating in other immoral acts. Johnston witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally
buying and selling women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees
would brag about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they
had purchased."

Rather than acknowledge and reward Johnston's effort to get this behavior
stopped, DynCorp fired him, forcing him into protective custody by the U.S.
Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) until the investigators could get him safely out of Kosovo and returned to the United States. That departure from the war-torn country was a far cry from what Johnston imagined a year earlier when he arrived in Bosnia to begin a three-year U.S. Air Force contract with DynCorp as an aircraft-maintenance technician for Apache and Blackhawk helicopters.
more at link above...

and..............................
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/wikileaks-texas-company-helped-pimp-little-boys-to-stoned-afghan-cops-6718414
Another international conflict, another horrific taxpayer-funded sex scandal for DynCorp, the private security contractor tasked with training the Afghan police.

advertisement

While the company is officially based in the DC area, most of its business is managed on a satellite campus at Alliance Airport north of Fort Worth. And if one of the diplomatic cables from the WikiLeaks archive is to be believed, boy howdy, are their doings in Afghanistan shady.

The Afghanistan cable (dated June 24, 2009) discusses a meeting between Afghan Interior Minister Hanif Atmar and US assistant ambassador Joseph Mussomeli. Prime among Atmar's concerns was a party partially thrown by DynCorp for Afghan police recruits in Kunduz Province.

Many of DynCorp's employees are ex-Green Berets and veterans of other elite units, and the company was commissioned by the US government to provide training for the Afghani police. According to most reports, over 95 percent of its $2 billion annual revenue comes from US taxpayers.

And in Kunduz province, according to the leaked cable, that money was flowing to drug dealers and pimps. Pimps of children, to be more precise. (The exact type of drug was never specified.)

Since this is Afghanistan, you probably already knew this wasn't a kegger. Instead, this DynCorp soiree was a bacha bazi ("boy-play&quot party, much like the ones uncovered earlier this year by Frontline.
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WHY ARE THESE TYPES GETTING OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR WORK? WHY ARE THESE TYPES CHOSEN TO DO OUR 'INDEPENDENT' INVESTIGAITONS? HARDLY INDEPENDENT.




madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
19. I linked to your post.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 02:54 PM
Dec 2015

I had been getting ready to post the same thing, then I saw you had beat me to it. The New Yorker article had fascinated me so I posted it instead.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
20. Avon v Mary Kay, Jordache v Guess.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015
Kroll has suffered its share of embarrassments. Its agents have admitted to Dumpster-diving through shredded documents once they’re on public property. That happened in a fight between the cosmetics giants Avon and Mary Kay. But there are allegations that the firm has gone lower still. According to James B. Stewart’s book “Den of Thieves,” Martin A. Siegel, who, in 1987, had pleaded guilty to insider trading while at Kidder, Peabody, was harassed by Kroll operatives seeking to intimidate him so that he wouldn’t testify against an arbitrageur at Goldman Sachs. The Kroll employees impersonated a New York City police officer and a journalist; scared off a potential donor to a children’s camp that Siegel was setting up; and paid his sixteen-year-old babysitter fifty dollars for damning information about him. (Jules Kroll disputes this account.)

When I asked Kroll about the company’s low moments, he said, unhappily, “The jeans wars. Jordache versus Guess. It was a full-blown brawl.”


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/19/the-secret-keeper

Renew Deal

(85,150 posts)
22. After reading this I figured out what's going on. The Sanders supporters are afraid of the truth
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:50 PM
Dec 2015

Coming out

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
24. Actually, no.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 11:04 PM
Dec 2015

I think it would have passed without much indignation until DWS went to the media and practically made Bernie sound like a criminal.

I have no illusions at all about this primary. I think it is probably pre-ordained. However, what she did about the media was so totally out of line it set the anger in motion.

I think Bernie Sanders has far less to fear from all the truth about everything on any topic coming out than his main opponent.

Will he win? Who knows. But he's apologized and fired the offenders. DWS is still going strong.

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