2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS This Morning: Trump WARNS Clinton to "Be Careful" After Sexism Charge
brucefan
(1,549 posts)What a surprise
msrizzo
(796 posts)The OP is agreeing with Trump? I don't get it.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She says something inaccurate. He overreacts. She refuses to back down. He says something vulgar. She accuses him of sexism. He warns her to be careful. The ball is now in her court.
I guess it is a good thing if you are a Clinton supporter. She is rallying her base. I think it is bad if you are just an average American. It now appears as if Donald and Hillary are equals in the eyes of the media.
How sad is that?
840high
(17,196 posts)JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)They are VERY media and tech savvy. It's really not far-fetched to think they will utilize videos of Trump's fascist BS to show potential recruits how much America hates themif they're not already. They're on the internet. They have access to the same videos we do. Of course, they will use him.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Starting to feel my post here is reaching the level of being hidden on today's DU.
Fuck Goodman and Paul for good measure.
SEGMI, any chance you will give me a simple +1 in solidarity on this one?
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)amirite?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I'm sure some will eat it up and defend it here.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)As a veteran HOFer, this whole debacle comes as no surprise.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)insist that it doesn't exist.
Not unlike the racism that blossomed when Obama was elected.
But more importantly, Ism, here's hoping that you and yours are happy and healthy for the holidays, and that the New Year brings you all that you hope it will.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)before Iowa......maybe just smoke only with no fire.
Does Hillary want to engage with Trump at this time?
I think she is going to do whatever she can to promote Trump as the GOP front runner.
Think about how McCaskill promoted Todd Akins as her opponent because he looked to be easiest to beat.
Even if the strategy doesn't work, and Trump doesn't get the nomination, it still serves to increase the stain he leaves on the GOP.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)As I've said elsewhere, Obama only campaigned against Romney during 2012 amid the primary season. GOP strategists talked a lot about it after the fact that Obama really defined the GOP campaign early on while they were still going through the process and that made it a lot harder to shake off what they did in the primary to veer towards the center more come the general.
Define your opponent before they define you. Smart politics.
Segami
(14,923 posts)before Iowa?......Is that a good strategy for her?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Donald is now engaging in a back and forth with her as an equal. This looks like a mistake to me.
Maybe it is a good move for her in the general but I think that starting up more "Clinton drama" this early could backfire. Presenting herself as an equal to Donald Trump can't energize her voters and it sure as hell will energize his. She is playing into her weakness. Most people don't want another 4 years of scandals and divisive politics. Trump supporters are the exception to that rule.
I hope her people know what they are doing, but they also thought it was a good idea to list 7 Ways Hillary Clinton is Just Like Your Abuela and to use a logo showing Rosa Parks seated in what appears to be a backseat.
This could lead to something like "We ran with our heads down to the vehicles because of the snipers."
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Jumping down into the mud to scrum with Trump only lowers Clinton.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Is this the old right wing canard about Monica Lewinsky being an unwilling participant? About Paula Jones? Jennifer Flowers? Who was raped?
And how did Hillary have anything to do with any of those incidences? (All of which I believe were consensual.)
Segami
(14,923 posts)where rules of engagement are created on the fly.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)It is nice of Bernie to support her stand.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)This is why I cannot support anyone named Clinton.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)"How can you lecture us on respecting women when your husband and former POTUS..." etc.
On paper this doesn't look good, but it feels like a nuclear option as the messenger would get slammed as hard/harder than the mudslinging target.
Outside of their bases, I'd say both Clinton and Trump/GOP need to be careful on this issue. Focus on the real ones.
Segami
(14,923 posts)the one disgusting/vile comment Trump has made that resulted in his polling numbers taking a sharp dive?
LettuceSea
(337 posts)Trump can get away with it, for now at least. HRC is supposed to be the world leader...she cannot get in the mud. Mud is for hacks, not the leader of the Western World.
Different playing fields? Yes. Unfair? perhaps. But that's the lay of the land at the moment.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Nobody in the clown car wants to engage head-to-head with Trump anymore.......In the first debate, all the angry little clowns came to play 'punch out' with Trump.......that didn't last too long at all........now, they avoid all direct exchanges with him like the plague.....lol!
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)That was your subject, yes?
Segami
(14,923 posts)reporting on Trump's threat or warning to Hillary for her to "Be Careful" because of her comments
Are you trying to spin these video postings into something they're not?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Try making use of your ignore button......I know I will......I recommend that you use it and hopefully you'll stop pestering others with your tripe.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)You do realize how this works right? Have mom explain it to you if you find it confusing.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)No drainage ditch could possibly deserve THAT.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)(don't put it past him, folks).
UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)What is he going to say? I am a man and I will beat the mess out of you woman if you keep challenging me?