Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:20 AM

Dustlawyer (10,163 posts)

I think we can put to bed the "We have to vote for Hillary or the Republicans win" argument.

While I think either Bernie or Hillary could beat Trump or whoever from the clown car, Bernie does it much more convincingly. Hillary would mobilize the Republican base to vote, even from a death bed and have a tougher time of it. Trump would be able to use the "insider" argument against her, which in the 2016 election is a no no. People of both Parties are sick of the corruption. I still think she would prevail because the Republican field is just so bad.

If either Democratic candidate would win the General, it should just come down to who has the better policies and be able to help down ticket races. Hillary would be a drag here, again because of extra Republican animus towards her that Bernie doesn't generate. Bernie definitely has the better policies for Democrats and is a LOT more trustworthy in doing what he says. Not many trust Hillary to keep her campaign promises.

As far as getting their policies enacted, the down ticket races are extremely important, especially since Republican incumbents are up for re-election something like two-to-one to Democrats. Bernie also plans on directing and mobilizing his supporters to pressure Congress to do the right thing. Things like Publicly Funded Elections (PFE's)! Politicians are learning that Americans across the board are tired of being sold out since the popularity of Bernie and Trump would indicate. Since the object of taking the campaign contributions (bribes), is to keep their ass in their seats, PFE's will seem more reasonable. Plus Bernie will be on the Bully Pulpit banging away!

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I think we can put to bed the "We have to vote for Hillary or the Republicans win" argument. (Original post)	Dustlawyer	Dec 2015	OP
Bernie is not viable in general election	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#1
Independents, Republican cross over appeal, first time voters and discouraged voters.	tazkcmo	Dec 2015	#2
Excellent point. A conveniently overlooked excellent point.	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#35
Not true. She would win Independents 43 to 36 against Trump.	SunSeeker	Dec 2015	#62
Women will vote for Clinton. I expect many former GOP women, women who	pnwmom	Dec 2015	#152
personally, i do not know any women voting for hillary ~	hopemountain	Dec 2015	#182
I'm a woman. I won't vote for her.	Hun Joro	Dec 2015	#184
One of my young relatives lives in San Francisco	pnwmom	Dec 2015	#185
Must be isolated pockets nt	Plucketeer	Dec 2015	#195
Woman will vote for hillary	yikes1	Dec 2015	#211
Well, his viability in the primary certainly seems to disprove your assertion	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#3
She has very few, We the People donors. Many are angry that a 1%er would contact them by email	DhhD	Dec 2015	#47
How? Sanders is being given a 6% chance of being the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#92
That 6% is for being the nominee, not for winning the GE	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#94
We are in the primary process and you are free to vote for who you want for any reason you want	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#98
Your logic is incorrect, and therefore a bad strategy	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#99
You are wrong	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#106
The data shows Sanders can win the GE better than Clinton	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#121
Can you explain how Sanders is viable in a general election contest?	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#133
Bad data, bad assumptions.	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#137
But Clinton will have super pacs and other support in the general election	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#145
Money does not win campaigns	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#148
Assuming there is any GOP fundraising.	The Golden One	Dec 2015	#153
The Koch brothers wrote off 2016	The Golden One	Dec 2015	#151
All the polls say you are wrong.	bvar22	Dec 2015	#123
If you really believe this, then vote for Sanders	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#131
What is "adequated" financing? Some kind of magic that someone is "blessing" Clinton with?	cascadiance	Dec 2015	#147
How do you know Bernie won't raise enough money for the GE?	Bernblu	Dec 2015	#198
President Obama had the best fundraising machine in history and he needed a super pac	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#212
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#213
Meh - it also had Jeb winning the GOP nomination in August.	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#112
And today, Predictwise has Jeb! at 10%	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#115
And you're gonna vote for Bernie when he's the nominee, right?	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#208
While money is an issue, his greatly increased publicity will garner a lot more supporters/voters/	Dustlawyer	Dec 2015	#4
If he beats Hillary, he can win the general.	LuvNewcastle	Dec 2015	#10
That simply doesn't seem realistic	Orrex	Dec 2015	#18
She is determined to win, and has already	LuvNewcastle	Dec 2015	#22
Again, I don't think that's realistic	Orrex	Dec 2015	#28
Lets see if dirty Rovian tricks can be added in, after the findings of the DNC/DWS investigation	DhhD	Dec 2015	#55
That might be relevant in the primary. Might be...	Orrex	Dec 2015	#60
It was battle-tested by FDR even with his own family voting against him. This country still	DhhD	Dec 2015	#188
battle test this	quoddy woman	Dec 2015	#37
I hate sports analogies, but...	Ned_Devine	Dec 2015	#43
By that logic, my 84 year old neighbor will be our next president	Orrex	Dec 2015	#57
So then, the argument is that we have to give in to and be a parrt of allowing the 1%, the	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#82
'We simply cannot afford Hillary. She is not in our price range.' well said JDPriestly.	sorechasm	Dec 2015	#89
It must be so convenient to be a Sanders supporter	Orrex	Dec 2015	#103
Bernie has campaigned against well funded opponents over and over.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#162
In the second-smallest constituency in the union	Orrex	Dec 2015	#164
What makes me believe that Sanders is prepared for the GOP?	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#167
More platitudes	Orrex	Dec 2015	#170
Hillary's ideas are weak. I don't think she can win with them.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#171
"Every once in a while in our history the little guys win. "	Orrex	Dec 2015	#173
Hear hear! +100	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#110
I keep hearing that but are you saying that the GOP will be 'nicer' to Hillary?	azurnoir	Dec 2015	#174
Why would you think that I'm saying that? I've said nothing like that.	Orrex	Dec 2015	#183
Sanders is up to a 6% chances of being the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#77
Your giving Sanders a 6% chance of being the Democratic nominee is wishful thinking. Here	Cal33	Dec 2015	#93
Predictwise is the successor to Intrade	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#95
What a joke-the kids who ran this mock election ignore the DNC rules	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#97
They predicted who would win in the generl elections, and they have never been wrong	Cal33	Dec 2015	#142
You are welcome to rely on this flawed but funny mock election	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#144
Their accuracy is 100%. They have never been wrong in 40 years. You may call it funny, but	Cal33	Dec 2015	#163
The fact that anyone would rely on a mock election that gives most of the Texas delegates to Sanders	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#176
The only way to be sure is to wait until Nov.8, 2016. Until then, have a good 10 months.	Cal33	Dec 2015	#187
No, we will know that this prediction is bogus on Super Tuesday	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#189
Okay, Super Tuesday, it is. And I'm not interested in being a businessman. Never was;	Cal33	Dec 2015	#209
I think this is true	SoLeftIAmRight	Dec 2015	#120
Sanders started out at .8 percent in Iowa	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#64
Iowa and NH are homogeneous States. He'll hit a firewall in SC.	BlueCaliDem	Dec 2015	#84
Your comment that Iowa is homogeneous is offensive	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#91
According to Nate Silver, Sanders can win both Iowa and NH and still not be the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#101
Iowa and HN...may be only two states	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#102
I trust Nate Silver on this	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#108
I get it...	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#111
No, I just know that demographics are what control elections and the primary process	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#113
I think Latino and African American voters...	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#117
Sanders supporters have been making this claim for months now	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#122
Texas has three times the number of delegates as Iowa and NH combined	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#218
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#214
Ignoring an issue will not make that issue go away	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#219
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#221
My apologies, but it is true...and it's only offensive if you choose see it that way and,	BlueCaliDem	Dec 2015	#105
You have no idea what you are talking about	CoffeeCat	Dec 2015	#109
How does this theory fit with the complaints that Sanders is being ignored by the media?	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#76
that is true -- Hillary has nowhere to GROW	grasswire	Dec 2015	#87
If Lessig really wanted to help	AllyCat	Dec 2015	#7
Do you think that if you say it enough.....	daleanime	Dec 2015	#9
So you're saying Hillary supporters	A Simple Game	Dec 2015	#11
I will support and vote for the Democratic candidate	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#80
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#215
Three reasons: 1) 2015 spending trend; 2) untapped donations 3) local volunteers	sorechasm	Dec 2015	#19
^^^This!^^^	peacebird	Dec 2015	#26
^^This!^^^^^This!^^^	90-percent	Dec 2015	#36
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#29
Baloney. This argument has been trotted out over and over. Given Bernie's having overcome many	GoneFishin	Dec 2015	#31
And yet Sanders is only at 6% chance of being the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#88
Another poll-driven Hillarite	The Golden One	Dec 2015	#158
Bernie would landslide them	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#41
This sounds like:	artislife	Dec 2015	#50
Lessig is one voice. Bernie will win. Our voices count the most and he is the one who can turn	roguevalley	Dec 2015	#56
Bernie is a socialist: with very few qualifications for leading	lewebley3	Dec 2015	#66
yyyaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn. #FeeltheBern!!! eom	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#114
You are aware that Bernie's small donor efforts have already exceeded Obama's, then?	LiberalAndProud	Dec 2015	#68
And President Obama used a super pac in 2012	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#75
Yes. We are owned and we'd best face up to it.	LiberalAndProud	Dec 2015	#125
The only way that we can change Citizens United is win 2016 election	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#130
Your optimism is attractive.	LiberalAndProud	Dec 2015	#141
Hillary Clinton’s litmus test for Supreme Court nominees: a pledge to overturn Citizens United	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#146
As promises go, I was schooled by the absence of the public option.	LiberalAndProud	Dec 2015	#156
Obama and most, if not all, Democrats want something done on Citizens United	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#161
natter and natter.	LiberalAndProud	Dec 2015	#169
How Sanders will be viable in GE? Do you really want to know, or are you just being rhetorical here?	99th_Monkey	Dec 2015	#74
Wait!	catnhatnh	Dec 2015	#79
The DNC and most Democracts (myself included) would support Sanders if he is the nominee	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#81
If Bernie's message about the billionaire class continues to resonate...	ljm2002	Dec 2015	#86
Lol, goal posts moving again At first he 'didn't have a chance of even being noticed, was going to	sabrina 1	Dec 2015	#172
We are in the primary process and you are free to vote for who you want for any reason you want	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#178
So I guess You're Saying, quite Clearly I might Add...	CorporatistNation	Dec 2015	#175
Not at all-I and the DNC will support the nominee of the party	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#177
Simple math: Sanders voters call X and the HRC voters call Y.	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#180
Your logic is really sad in that you assume that Sanders is viable in a general election	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#190
And you define "viable" by how much money he can raise. Now that's sad.	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#197
In the real world money is important in elections	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#199
So we should sell out to big money and forget about solving the poverty problems. Well go ahead.	rhett o rick	Dec 2015	#201
The problem with Hillary is voters will stay home she is the 2016 Romney, picked by the people	Todays_Illusion	Dec 2015	#193
Same was said for FDR (socialist) and JFK (Catholic). Same BS, different person	Feeling the Bern	Dec 2015	#207
Keep trying to put a good man down.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#5
+1000000	SammyWinstonJack	Dec 2015	#17
to the 10th power! eom.	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#116
Bernie IS the one polling much further ahead of the republican candidates.	ViseGrip	Dec 2015	#6
Because the Republicans won't gladly do everything they can to hang the word	mythology	Dec 2015	#8
BSers like to downplay the "socialist"	redstateblues	Dec 2015	#13
Tail Gunner Joe called...	99Forever	Dec 2015	#20
Yeah right. It will be a huge asset	redstateblues	Dec 2015	#25
Fuck the Republicans and the Red Scare fear you share with them.	99Forever	Dec 2015	#27
You're in denial, and your hostility is a revelation	Orrex	Dec 2015	#30
no one is saying the repubs won't come after Sanders. But they will be at least	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#119
You mean the late Trey Gowdy?	Orrex	Dec 2015	#160
Hit a real nerve there	redstateblues	Dec 2015	#166
it's enough to keep me from supporting him in the primary	hfojvt	Dec 2015	#48
Repubs called Obama much worse names the second time around.	safeinOhio	Dec 2015	#61
give an example	hfojvt	Dec 2015	#70
I don't think he is a "Socialist", he is a Democratic Socialist.	safeinOhio	Dec 2015	#73
Think it is from the 1950s?	99Forever	Dec 2015	#63
Were you perhaps there	hfojvt	Dec 2015	#72
Is there some part of...	99Forever	Dec 2015	#78
The GOP have been calling everydemocrat since FDR a socialist.	Paka	Dec 2015	#168
This one has a lot of posts that sound like 1952. nt	artislife	Dec 2015	#54
I think some of those 50% are persuadable	thesquanderer	Dec 2015	#24
Excellent points.	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#38
Yes. "Those who are most virulently anti-socialist (including that contingent who call Obama	TryLogic	Dec 2015	#44
To change a position like that takes money	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#90
I am thinking it's useless to try to convince you otherwise. But, here goes: Are you aware that	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#124
So money does not matter and Twitter and youtube are magic.	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#135
They'll be redbaiting like crazy around the clock	Nyan	Dec 2015	#39
Vermont has a large contingent of Republicans and even more Independents.	RichVRichV	Dec 2015	#71
OK, so in the world of HRC supporters, Republicans are gonna quit being obstructionists...	Ned Flanders	Dec 2015	#159
Astute observation	Populist_Prole	Dec 2015	#205
Liberals need to grow a spine and stop cringing because Republicans criticize us.	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#202
Nope. eom	MohRokTah	Dec 2015	#12
I doubt it.	Cassiopeia	Dec 2015	#14
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2015	#15
I, for one agree.	Amimnoch	Dec 2015	#16
I think Bernie loses to a center-right candidate	firebrand80	Dec 2015	#21
I've never argued that	dbackjon	Dec 2015	#23
Actually, they better start lining up behind Bernie if they're concerned about	NorthCarolina	Dec 2015	#32
That is a very important point.	Duval	Dec 2015	#69
that's always been a baseless excuse, not a good reason from Hillarians	stupidicus	Dec 2015	#33
The Republicans are facing a graver	saltpoint	Dec 2015	#34
Huge +1!	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#40
Fact: Bernie is more electable than Hillary!	Helen Borg	Dec 2015	#42
I AGREE	TryLogic	Dec 2015	#45
I think polls even agree.	TryLogic	Dec 2015	#46
It won't be Trump leading the R ticket	JustABozoOnThisBus	Dec 2015	#49
Agree that the country club bunch	saltpoint	Dec 2015	#53
I will vote 4 whomever gets the nomination	dembotoz	Dec 2015	#51
If Bernie would win the Dem nomination, he would face -	OhZone	Dec 2015	#52
If Hillary wins the Dem nomination, she will face...	Ino	Dec 2015	#58
All of Clinton's dirty laundry has been aired for decades now	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#85
Which is not going to prevent the GOP from inventing new ones. They always do. It	Cal33	Dec 2015	#96
How well did this work in the recent Benghazi hearings?	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#140
..and it will ALL be brought out again....and MORE.	bvar22	Dec 2015	#126
But, the HUGE problem with Hillary is that there are always more surfacing	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#128
And Hillary wouldn't also face a billion dollars of negative ads?	SheilaT	Dec 2015	#59
Any Democrat going into the General will face the RW money and smears. Bernie is	Dustlawyer	Dec 2015	#65
The country needs to gear up	libodem	Dec 2015	#67
The above polling ignores the effect of $300 million of more in negative ads	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#83
You do realize both of those polls/stats are between 4 and 5 YEARS old	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#132
I bet that the GOP has more recent polling	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#134
That doesn't mean your polling is still accurate	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#138
I'm sorry, but this just isn't consistent with reality.	Bleacher Creature	Dec 2015	#100
+1 nt	NurseJackie	Dec 2015	#107
So the Democrats supporting Hillary clinton in December...	Scootaloo	Dec 2015	#136
Voter turnout is the #1 issue facing Democrats in every national election.	Bleacher Creature	Dec 2015	#143
where did they say that in that post?	Skittles	Dec 2015	#179
The "one issue candidate" meme has been shown to be just that, a meme MANY times.	cui bono	Dec 2015	#165
Hillary is the one issue candidate	Doctor_J	Dec 2015	#186
So primary polls are unreliable	Dem2	Dec 2015	#104
Hillary would mobilize the Republican base - YES	SoLeftIAmRight	Dec 2015	#118
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#127
Last night on Coast to Coast Am with George Noory,	truedelphi	Dec 2015	#129
Well, Seth said it, then I guess we can relax	Android3.14	Dec 2015	#154
That source is just as reliable as the mock election from the kids who are clueless as to poltics	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#191
YES WE CAN - even when Obama didn't. eom	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#139
It's actually quite amazing how Bernie is left of center and yet has cross over appeal.	liberal_at_heart	Dec 2015	#149
Bernie has never had the Rethugs aim all their guns at him. When they do --	pnwmom	Dec 2015	#150
"you don't CARE if Trump wins!" say the ones who want the weaker-polling candidate to win	MisterP	Dec 2015	#155
That's why I call people everyday for Bernie and 99% of the rest of us . n/t	orpupilofnature57	Dec 2015	#157
That stuff just simply isn't true.	George II	Dec 2015	#181
That argument never worked on me anyway.	liberal_at_heart	Dec 2015	#192
He won't be a drag on the ticket.	Babel_17	Dec 2015	#194
IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election	cantbeserious	Dec 2015	#196
Hillary is status quo, Bernie is trying to change the corrupt dynamic.	Dustlawyer	Dec 2015	#200
sorry	MFM008	Dec 2015	#203
Lame	Populist_Prole	Dec 2015	#204
I understand how you feel. I like your Che avatar, but this is just my humble opinion --	akbacchus_BC	Dec 2015	#206
TRUMP MAY NOT BE THEIR NOMINEE!!! nt	Herman4747	Dec 2015	#210
I put that to bed a long time ago. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#216
You must have struck a nerve, Dustlawyer. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#217
By pretending that the concerns of a large number of democrats do not matter	Gothmog	Dec 2015	#220
add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt	antigop	Dec 2015	#222
Beware: Someone Is Trying to Convince You That Bernie Can't Win	antigop	Dec 2015	#223

Response to Dustlawyer (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2015, 10:24 AM

Gothmog (113,403 posts)

1. Bernie is not viable in general election

Some candidates are better able to raise the funds necessary to complete. President Obama blew everyone away in 2008 with his small donor fundraising efforts and that made it clear that he was electable. Jeb is trying to do the same on the GOP side with his $100 million super pac.

There are many on this board who doubt that Sanders will be able to compete in a general election contest where the Kochs will be spending $887 million and the RNC candidate will likely spend another billion. This article had a very interesting quote about the role of super pacs in the upcoming election http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/03/bernie-sanders-grassroots-movement-gains-clinton-machine

Harvard University professor Lawrence Lessig, who founded a Super Pac to end Super Pacs, said Sanders’ renouncing Super Pacs is tantamount to “bringing a knife to a gunfight”.

“I regret the fact the Bernie Sanders has embraced the idea that he’s going to live life like the Vermont snow, as pure as he possibly can, while he runs for president, because it weakens his chances – and he’s an enormously important progressive voice,” Lessig said.

President Obama was against super pacs in 2012 but had to use one to keep the race close. I do not like super pacs but any Democratic candidate who wants to be viable has to use a super pac.

I have asked someone to explain how Sanders will be viable in a general election contest. I would love to see a good answer

I think we can put to bed the "We have to vote for Hillary or the Republicans win" argument.

1. Bernie is not viable in general election

2. Independents, Republican cross over appeal, first time voters and discouraged voters.

35. Excellent point. A conveniently overlooked excellent point.

62. Not true. She would win Independents 43 to 36 against Trump.

152. Women will vote for Clinton. I expect many former GOP women, women who

182. personally, i do not know any women voting for hillary ~

184. I'm a woman. I won't vote for her.

185. One of my young relatives lives in San Francisco

195. Must be isolated pockets nt

211. Woman will vote for hillary

3. Well, his viability in the primary certainly seems to disprove your assertion

47. She has very few, We the People donors. Many are angry that a 1%er would contact them by email

92. How? Sanders is being given a 6% chance of being the nominee

94. That 6% is for being the nominee, not for winning the GE

98. We are in the primary process and you are free to vote for who you want for any reason you want

99. Your logic is incorrect, and therefore a bad strategy

106. You are wrong

121. The data shows Sanders can win the GE better than Clinton

133. Can you explain how Sanders is viable in a general election contest?

137. Bad data, bad assumptions.

145. But Clinton will have super pacs and other support in the general election

148. Money does not win campaigns

153. Assuming there is any GOP fundraising.

151. The Koch brothers wrote off 2016

123. All the polls say you are wrong.

131. If you really believe this, then vote for Sanders

147. What is "adequated" financing? Some kind of magic that someone is "blessing" Clinton with?

198. How do you know Bernie won't raise enough money for the GE?

212. President Obama had the best fundraising machine in history and he needed a super pac

213. add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt

112. Meh - it also had Jeb winning the GOP nomination in August.

115. And today, Predictwise has Jeb! at 10%

208. And you're gonna vote for Bernie when he's the nominee, right?

4. While money is an issue, his greatly increased publicity will garner a lot more supporters/voters/

10. If he beats Hillary, he can win the general.

18. That simply doesn't seem realistic

22. She is determined to win, and has already

28. Again, I don't think that's realistic

55. Lets see if dirty Rovian tricks can be added in, after the findings of the DNC/DWS investigation

60. That might be relevant in the primary. *Might* be...

188. It was battle-tested by FDR even with his own family voting against him. This country still

37. battle test this

43. I hate sports analogies, but...

57. By that logic, my 84 year old neighbor will be our next president

82. So then, the argument is that we have to give in to and be a parrt of allowing the 1%, the

89. 'We simply cannot afford Hillary. She is not in our price range.' well said JDPriestly.

103. It must be so convenient to be a Sanders supporter

162. Bernie has campaigned against well funded opponents over and over.

164. In the second-smallest constituency in the union

167. What makes me believe that Sanders is prepared for the GOP?

170. More platitudes

171. Hillary's ideas are weak. I don't think she can win with them.

173. "Every once in a while in our history the little guys win. "

110. Hear hear! +100

174. I keep hearing that but are you saying that the GOP will be 'nicer' to Hillary?

183. Why would you think that I'm saying that? I've said nothing like that.

77. Sanders is up to a 6% chances of being the nominee

93. Your giving Sanders a 6% chance of being the Democratic nominee is wishful thinking. Here

95. Predictwise is the successor to Intrade

97. What a joke-the kids who ran this mock election ignore the DNC rules

142. They predicted who would win in the generl elections, and they have never been wrong

144. You are welcome to rely on this flawed but funny mock election

163. Their accuracy is 100%. They have never been wrong in 40 years. You may call it funny, but

176. The fact that anyone would rely on a mock election that gives most of the Texas delegates to Sanders

187. The only way to be sure is to wait until Nov.8, 2016. Until then, have a good 10 months.

189. No, we will know that this prediction is bogus on Super Tuesday

209. Okay, Super Tuesday, it is. And I'm not interested in being a businessman. Never was;

120. I think this is true

64. Sanders started out at .8 percent in Iowa

84. Iowa and NH are homogeneous States. He'll hit a firewall in SC.

91. Your comment that Iowa is homogeneous is offensive

101. According to Nate Silver, Sanders can win both Iowa and NH and still not be the nominee

102. Iowa and HN...may be only *two states*

108. I trust Nate Silver on this

111. I get it...

113. No, I just know that demographics are what control elections and the primary process

117. I think Latino and African American voters...

122. Sanders supporters have been making this claim for months now

218. Texas has three times the number of delegates as Iowa and NH combined

60. That might be relevant in the primary. Might be...

102. Iowa and HN...may be only two states