2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPrimary blast from the past: Clinton aides claim Obama photo wasn't intended as a smear
Barack Obama's campaign team today accused Hillary Clinton's beleaguered staff of mounting a desperate dirty tricks operation by circulating a picture of him in African dress, feeding into false claims on US websites that he is a Muslim.
Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, described it as "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we've seen from either party in this election". Obama has had to spend much of the campaign stressing he is a Christian not a Muslim and did not study at a madrassa.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton
vi5
(13,305 posts)I expect more of the same dirty tricks.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Been there, done that.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)So no worries there.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)place. The Rock of Cashel is our favorite go and sit down on the grass place.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)So right on and hysterically funny. Thanks. I never heard of Lee Camp before. Gonna check out more...
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I have been to Ireland many times and I hope to visit there one day.
I got my screen name from the song.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Hubris.
Read a Greek Tragedy once in a while.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Bernie started out at .8 percent in Iowa. The race is now within single digits.
The Iowa Poll had him within 9, and now a recent CBS/YouGov poll has Sanders within 5.
That's huge.
The Clinton camp, no doubt, is staring down a repeat of 2008. Bernie would win this and they know it.
Sanders is drawing crowds of 1500-2000 and we're not yet into the frenzied, final push of the caucuses, when Iowans are out in droves at these events. There is genuine, organic interest in Bernie. Clinton, not so much.
Attendance at her events as been anemic. I'm sure the Clinton campaign is alarmed. She struggles to get 200-300 at an event.
Her Keota event was a rally in the making, for months. The focus of the rally was the three girls who started a social-media campaign to get Hillary to visit their town. Good for those girls! However, those in attendance were supporting the girls, the school and the effort put into getting Hillary to comet to their little town. 700 attended in a town of 900. Most likely, many in the audience were from all political stripes, even Republicans. They weren't endorsing Hillary, they were supporting those girls and their town.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)progressive were elected. They will do anything to prevent that. Are you on their side?
cali
(114,904 posts)monmouth4
(9,691 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Now is the time to kick out the corrupt corporate puppets from our government.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)She saves her dirtiest deeds for members of her own party who get in the way of her ambitions. It says a great deal about her total lack of character.
azmom
(5,208 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Sanders has ten events in Iowa from now until the end of the year.
Clinton has zero.
They're obviously regrouping and re-strategizing.
Gird your loins. I fear the worst. I saw this happen with Obama in 2008. Hillary sent surrogates into our state (Bob Kerry). He called a press conference to endorse Hillary and then said, "I love it that his name is Barack Hussein Obama!". Kerry later apologize for his remarks. Hillary's team also coached questioners (told them they couldn't ask the questions they wanted) and planted questions during a town-hall meeting. Hillary scheduled this event because she had been accused of being closed off an unavailable to Iowa caucus goers, who are used to the candidates answering questions and being authentic. So...these planted questioners didn't go over very well with us.
I think we're about to see some major ugly from the Hillary Clinton peanut gallery. Expect it.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)that all the slimy statements that are composed by the brain trust probably have the apology pre-composed and prepared for delivery at the appropriate time.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)She's doing a minimum of debates at horrid times with pre-scripted questions on topics of her own choosing. That's her M.O.
Sssssneaky.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)And they definitely prefer a republican to a democratic socialist!
jalan48
(13,853 posts)And yet, according to them everyone is always out to get them. Go figure!
winterwar
(210 posts)How low can you go? How can anybody defend this?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's an admired trait. They picture those "skills" being used for our benefit.
Winning dirty is still winning to these people and they are ALWAYS surprised when they get betrayed.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Since it seems that they cannot stick to issues.
Of course, it's hard to stick to issues when one has been all over the map about everything.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)about single payer health care.
Duval
(4,280 posts)lastone
(588 posts)The Clinton campaign was behind leaking this picture, seals it for me. Sanders is the ONLY CHOICE!
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)out without having to bear the credit for it. And he got to ding two Dems at the same time.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)And there was never any proof that the photo was distributed by Hillary people. It could have been pushed out there by the McCain people, trying to hurt both Dems at the same time.
I think that is what is most likely.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)I don't really know but am not naïve to discount dirty tricks by any candidate or party.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)That's the bottom line.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)BTW, I was a state delegate for Obama during those elections.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Opportunity knocks and some answer the door.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)And since then, Hillary's become an even stronger candidate.
But I agree with the candidates themselves -- the differences between them are relatively minor, when compared to the panel of Rethugs.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)Especially since their unreliability since 2000.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Discuss.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)and looked it up.
pa28
(6,145 posts)I especially remember the snide way they tried spinning it.
Maggie Williams, campaign manager for Clinton, played down the significance of the picture. "If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely."
treestar
(82,383 posts)campaigning for him or canvassing for him, it is better to dig up resentments of the previous primary that was 8 years ago? Do you really think any Hillary supporters are going to switch to Bernie over the resentments of 8 years ago? Oh yeah, I forgot that, I hate Hillary after all. Obama himself and his supporters who are for Hillary now are going to suddenly, now, be swayed by this remembrance from the past?
People who have gotten past it (and some of our posters have been chastised for being against Hillary in 2008 but being for her now) and others are not so negative and hate based that this "reminder" is going to work. If President Obama ends up supporting her, the same people are certainly not going to say well no President Obama, we still hate her from when she campaigned against you 8 years ago.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)for anything.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She doesn't appear to have any morals left. An entire adult life of pandering and living within the dc millionaires club has wiped out her soul.