Andrea Mitchell Presses Sanders: You’re ’Far Behind’ Hillary in Polls on Foreign Policy

[MrWendel]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/andrea-mitchell-presses-sanders-youre-far-behind-hillary-in-polls-on-foreign-policy/



On Meet the Press this morning, Andrea Mitchell confronted Bernie Sanders on how his economic message isn’t exactly helping him convince more voters he would be a better foreign policy president than Hillary Clinton.

She showed the poll disparity between Sanders and Clinton on that issue and said many more people are concerned about terrorism than they are the economy.

Sanders disputed the polls issue, saying he’s gaining on Clinton, while taking a firm stance on the U.S. needing to destroy ISIS by building up a coalition.

Mitchell still pointed out he’s “far, far behind” Clinton on the question of who voters trust the most on foreign policy.

Sanders said that destroying ISIS is important, but lamented how “sometimes the media thinks that is the only issue” when there are plenty of Americans concerned about

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[earthside]

1. "It's the economy, stupid."

This is the same kind of stuff that we heard from the George H. W. Bush campaign directed against Bill Clinton in 1992.

Ironic, uh?

[tecelote]

37. +1!

[Ken Burch]

67. Actually, that was the line Clinton used against Bush.

And it worked.

[earthside]

68. That's the 'ironic' part.

I recall that it was a James Caravelle line.

From Wikipedia: Caravelle's original phrase was meant for the internal audience of Clinton's campaign workers as one of the three messages to focus on, the other two messages being "Change vs. more of the same" and "Don't forget health care."

The Sanders campaign is ironically more in tune with the 1992 Bill Clinton campaign than is Hillary.

Mrs. Clinton is certainly the proponent in 2016 of "more of the same" and she certainly isn't interested in making health care more available and affordable to more working and middle class people.

Center-right Hillary is now running more like H.W. Bush than the way Bill and she ("two for the price of one&quot did back then.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Somehow he manages to change the subject to people not having money in the bank for retirement

and student loans, he does not remain on the subject of foreign affairs, he lacks in this area and is not able to dig himself out of his canned speech over and over again. His feet in cement, unable to move around in the area of foreign affairs.

[safeinOhio]

8. He doesn't need to explain.

His votes in congress, like against the wars in Iraq, are enough to convince voters.

[mythology]

10. If that is the case, why is he still so far behind?

It's easy to say that all Sanders has to do is repeat his talking points, but the evidence doesn't support that.

[Thinkingabout]

14. He was ask a different question, he deflected to what he wanted to say

He will not stay on the of foreign affairs, doesn't seem comfortable talking about foreign affairs.

[MoonRiver]

69. Apparently not. N/t

[Skidmore]

72. He does need to explain.

He is running for a future job and in a time with different foreign policy dynamics. This is part of his problem. A gazillion problem, all of which are seen as nails to be hit by the one hammer he owns. It's no different than Trump bellowing that he would just be so AWESOME.

[ornotna]

21. How right you are

I'm sure he's the only one who deflects like that. Why can't he just give a straight answer?

[jalan48]

25. Because that's what matter to the vast majority of Americans. Not the MIC "Fear Factor" show.

[Cha]

57. Of course he does.

[brewens]

3. I'm sure Andrea much prefers someone she and her cronies can trust to

look out for their interests.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. No. Andrea prefers someone in her

D.C. Cocktail Circuit. And she is true blue Ayn Randian,as well as her hubby the Economic Destroyer. It is all about who you know,not what you know. Really has become very apparent the Joe Scab producers and directors are writing her TelePrompter script.

[CorporatistNation]

12. Andrea, An "Ole Pro" Is She Not Married to Fucking Alan Greenspan?

We know what she is all about... Corporatist establishment Creep From Wall Street!

[Fuddnik]

22. Rich wife of Ayn Rand disciple just can't get it.

We spend too much time on Foreign Policy as it is. It's time to concentrate on domestic policy instead of empire.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. "In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place." Mahatma Gandhi

[bahrbearian]

6. Regime change and Bombing is our foregin policy ?

How about "don't do stupid stuff" ?

[oasis]

51. "Don't Do Stupid Stuff" could be said about any issue. I'm

not sure many would be reassured by a candidate using this as a foreign policy position.

[saltpoint]

7. Andrea Mitchell is a power groupie.

That probably gets you invited to a lot of cocktail parties inside the Beltway.

But she's no journalist. She should probably be doing infommercials in the 3:00 a.m. to dawn shift.

[Triana]

9. The media is mostly trash TV/Jerry Springer infotainment.

They can get back to me on anything when they decide to learn actual investigative journalism and to question EVERYTHING and EVERYONE rather than just targeting those who refuse kiss corprat rings and toe corprat lines.

[stuffmatters]

11. Andrea (Mrs Greenspan) is always hostile to Bernie

The history of antagonism probably dates back to Bernie's Congressional face to face, outspoken (and proven correct) attack on Greenspan's abject ineptitude while he was Fed Chair. I doubt either Greenspan ever recovered from that moment Allan Greenspan was called out on his reckless BS, made even more humiliating when Greenspan had to publicly admit in 2008 that he"d been arrogantly and completely wrong for years. The videos are on U-tube & probably Bernie's website.
Bernie has a long history of not bowing down before either King (on economics) or Queen (on foreign affairs) Greenspan. Every interview Andrea Mitchell does with Bernie is a premeditated and predictable ambush.

[swilton]

56. It warrants repeating

[stuffmatters]

60. Thanks, love it, that video just gets better with age... like a fine wine

[Scuba]

13. Pound the fucking war drums Bernie, or Andrea will accuse you of being a sissy.

Somehow I suspect the majority of Americans have less stomach for more wars than the media would have us believe.

[rhett o rick]

15. Interesting how the HRC supporters embrace Andrea and the Corp-Media now that

they love HRC.

[MrWendel]

17. Show a poll...

any poll where Bernie out does Hillary on Foreign policy.That way you'll know if Andrea overlooked/ignored it.

[rhett o rick]

24. At one time all Democrats agreed that Andrea and the Corp-Media were tools of the Oligarchy.

Now some Democrats are embracing the corporate oligarchy. I don't want her hawkish foreign policy decisions that saw her join the Republicons and invade Iraq. Not the foreign policy of a Democrat.

[MrWendel]

28. Soooo....

no poll?

[rhett o rick]

31. I agree she has more foreign policy experience, but she is also responsible for the biggest

mistake this country has made. She betrayed her Party and joined Bush in pushing the illegal invasion of Iraq.

The consequences for Iraq and our country have been horrible. She made a mistake. I don't want a president that makes that kind of mistakes.

[MrWendel]

36. There are..

allot of people not named Barack Obama who made that mistake. Did Bernie betray his party voting to stay in Afghanistan? Because I'm not sure that Barack Obama should have kept the US there either.

[tecelote]

41. Yes. Since Hillary has been SOS, our wars have not been much of a success, have they?

She says we can't afford Bernie's plans for improving America but we sure can afford regime change in the middle east.

Before we take Democracy to other countries, let's re-instate it here.

[Krytan11c]

70. +1

"Before we take Democracy to other countries, let's re-instate it here."

Love this line.

[sulphurdunn]

30. As far as the corporate media

and half the zombie electorate are concerned, anyone who ever opposed an American war anywhere is weak on foreign policy.

[grasswire]

52. they still hate Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald, though. nt

[rhett o rick]

53. They don't like anyone that dares speak up to the authoritarian leaders that we are supposed

to worship.

[MisterP]

16. saying it again: Iraq, Honduras, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan all don't INCREASE

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Clinton's "reputability" outside the Beltway

Clinton citing her experience in foreign policy is like Christie citing his experience with transit

[Kalidurga]

18. So what is it about war that you love so much?

Is it the 2 trillion dollars spent on the war in Iraq? Is it blowing up the bad guys? Or, do you just like the idea that the US has thousands of nuclear weapons?

[MrWendel]

20. ...

=

[Kalidurga]

26. Sorry you can't answer the question

I trust Hillary to start more wars. I would like to know what you like about her foreign policy. You know the one where she stated in the last debate that sometimes you have to work with brutal dictators to promote democracy.

[MrWendel]

29. I'll try your tactic...

So you believe we should defund and eventually get rid of the military?

[Kalidurga]

32. We should scale back quite a bit

and we should keep the bulk of our troops in the US. I would not object to them paroling places that are likely terrorist targets.

[MrWendel]

34. Good....

we agree. Just curious about one other thing. One of the mistakes Bill Clinton made was not intervening and helping in Rwanda. Should we have? Or was that the right call?

[Kalidurga]

49. Yes we should have at the very least sent humanitarian aid

Set up some refugee camps and medical treatment centers. We could have also had orphanages set up. I do realize in order to keep those places safe we would also have to have boots on the ground. But, I don't think engaging unless being engaged is a wise move.

[redstateblues]

45. Terrorist targets? Like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?

What are you talking about?

[1StrongBlackMan]

46. There is a law against the U.S. military operating/patroling on U.S. soil ...

and for good reason.

[Fuddnik]

35. *00 military bases around the world is a bit much.

[MrWendel]

38. Agreed...

We don't need them in places like Japan or Germany. But lets not pretend that the most powerful nation in the world does not need a military.

[Human101948]

39. Works for me...

but all those great jobs!

For U.S. Merchants of death it's Christmas all year long!

U.S. Foreign Arms Deals Increased Nearly $10 Billion in 2014

By NICHOLAS FANDOS DEC. 25, 2015

WASHINGTON — Foreign arms sales by the United States jumped by almost
$10 billion in 2014, about 35 percent, even as the global weapons market
remained flat and competition among suppliers increased, a new
congressional study has found.
American weapons receipts rose to $36.2 billion in 2014 from $26.7
billion the year before, bolstered by multibillion­dollar agreements with Qatar,
Saudi Arabia and South Korea. Those deals and others ensured that the United
States remained the single largest provider of arms around the world last year,
controlling just over 50 percent of the market.
Russia followed the United States as the top weapons supplier, completing
$10.2 billion in sales, compared with $10.3 billion in 2013. Sweden was third,
with roughly $5.5 billion in sales, followed by France with $4.4 billion and
China with $2.2 billion.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/26/world/middleeast/us-foreign-arms-deals-increased-nearly-10-billion-in-2014.html?_r=0

[rhett o rick]

27. It's not like her supporters wanted war, it's just part of the package I guess, when you support a

strong authoritarian.

[MeNMyVolt]

19. Both seemed out of their element.

I loathe Mitchell, so screw her. SBS is just being SBS, so he gets a pass from me.

[jalan48]

23. When Mrs. Greenspan speaks, Wall Street listens.

[upaloopa]

33. Bernie the one dimentional man

The more you hear his talking points the more they remind that he would be a talking point president

[bl968]

40. Domestic Issues outweigh Foreign Policy for most Americans...

Most people have absolutely no idea what our foreign policy is, what it does, or how it's enacted. They do know for example their take home pay, their healthcare costs, how much they are having to try to save to send their kids to college. That is how they will decide their votes in this election, not foreign policy.

[MrWendel]

42. Do people...

need foreign policy? Cause people can't cherry pick what policies are important in a presidency. A president (or leader in general) should be well rounded, and not just proficient on only one or two issues.

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. In fact, an argument can be made ...

that the President, as Commander in Chief, must be more proficient in foreign policy, than in domestic affairs.

[stonecutter357]

43. K&R!

[EndElectoral]

44. The only expertise I see in Hilary's foreign policy is the march toward a lot of miltary action

She's a hawk, and displayed it in full force at the last debate. If people want war then Hilary' is the right choice for them. Not me.

btw.. she's not outlined a timetable or the cost of how her regime changes are going to be paid for except the middle class won't have to pay for any of it, at least this generation's middle class.

[SmittynMo]

48. When anyone from the 1% speaks,

I try not to listen. It's quite obvious that the 1% hate him, because he'll upset the apple cart, and break up the oligarchy. They will do anything to show him as a failure. Less debates, no coverage, etc.

Note to self: MSM and/or CM are being fed by the 1%.

I'm sorry, I want my democracy back. The ONLY thing that matters at this time, is the primaries. All these bullshit lying statistics don't mean shit.

[brooklynite]

55. I see -- just listen to people who agree with you?

Certainly makes life easier.

[SmittynMo]

58. Not necessarily

Hey, the 1% have a lot riding on this election. And no one in recent history has gone against the 1%. Don't you think the corruption in politics and the media has gone far enough in the past 40-50 years?

It's time to claim our democracy back.

If you support the 1%, you're part of the problem.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

50. She loves her another war - and takes many sheep with her

For some foreign policy = war

that is what this is about - I am sure that a foreign policy of peace is what too many do not want

[orpupilofnature57]

54. Misanthropic Sycophant Monster, with an ax to grind not about the Castigation Bernie put her Hubby

through, but the fact Andrea Mitchell is a figure head of fascist media directly beholding to the MIC, TPP and all the other vehicles of the 1% .That's also why she served Hillary lobs on E-mails and her problem with the truth .

[Martin Eden]

59. Foreign policy is one of the pimary reasons I'm voting for Sanders

Bernie showed far better judgment than Hillary in the most important vote either of them took in their senate careers -- the IWR in October 2002 that gave GW Bush authority to invade Iraq.

Hillary Clinton is still a hawk, still in favor of regime changes in the Middle East that have horrible unintended consequences.

[MrWendel]

61. Why...

did Bernie vote for the US to stay in Afghanistan?

[Martin Eden]

63. When did Congress vote whether to stay or withdraw from Afghanistan?

Please cite the specific vote.

[MrWendel]

64. HR 2642 - Iraq and Afghanistan War Funding, Unemployment Benefits Extension, and GI Bill - Key Vote

https://votesmart.org/bill/6948/20208/27110/iraq-and-afghanistan-war-funding-unemployment-benefits-extension-and-gi-bill#.VoDHfRUrKUk

[Martin Eden]

66. That's a funding vote, not a vote to withdraw troops

Besides, what does this have to do with the October 2002 IWR vote to invade Iraq?

Why did you even bring up Afghanistan in the context of this thread?

[MrWendel]

71. What happens..

when you vote to defund a war effort?

[Martin Eden]

73. Most likely ...

... the White House and the Defense Department shift resources from other areas of the defense budget to prioritize the active military engagement. To the extent that is still inadequate to conduct operations, the mission could be imperiled.

But I still don't understand what a vote to fund operations in Afghanistan has to do with the IWR vote in October 2003.

Would you please explain that to me?

[NuclearDem]

62. Sanders supporters seem to confuse war with foreign policy.

Voting against the IWR does not a comprehensive foreign policy make.

[neverforget]

65. Just a monumental fuck up enabling Bush, Cheney and the neocons

to get their war on with a fig leaf of bipartisan legitimacy.