2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSamuel L. Jackson endorses Hillary Clinton

Im forever a Democrat, you know, and Im gonna vote for Hillary, he said, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
I mean, I love Bernie Bernies a man of the people but he cant win, Jackson continued. "So I gotta cast my vote for a person that can keep those other people from winning, okay?"
Jackson argued that Clintons past political experience gives her a significant edge over other White House hopefuls from both parties.
Hillary kind of knows the job she can hit the ground running, the movie star said of the Democratic presidential front-runner. "She doesnt have a huge learning curve like [President Obama] had or some other people had.
Hopefully she can open up the skeletal files on these do-nothing assholes that go to work like four times a year and not vote on things and threaten them with whatever she and [former President Bill Clinton] uncovered on them years ago and make them do something and we can get something done.
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/264323-samuel-l-jackson-backs-clinton-as-sanders-cant-win

Historic NY
(40,037 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)you are targeted with voter obstruction.
I wish Sam would talk about that, I wish others would talk about that.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)There are a lot of good Samuel L Jackson video but I can't/won't post them here, especially those from Django Unchained.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)That you has posted this in the Hillary forum instead of here, so we would be spared the caustic, desperate rants from the more deranged Sanders fans.
I agree with Jackson completely: I love Sen Sanders but won't consider voting for him because he would lose the general election if he did somehow get the nomination.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Dissing Samuel L Jackson reflects more poorly on those doing the dissing than it can ever reflect on him. I also find it amusing.
Oh, please see post 27.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)All polls snd signs I've seen show the advantage is for Bernie in GE
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)You don't need more than a casual knowledge of recent American history to know that a self-described Socialist would lose the GE in a landslide.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Bernie has a broad appeal because his message is honest, and so easy to understand. Same message for rich poor black white old young left right. It's resonating in surprising places. Like many, I think it comes down to a contest between Truth and Lies.
People have an inner radar for honesty. My opinion. Whoever gets R nomination ought to be easy to beat on that basis, as they are all chronic liars, and it's easy to prove. Bernie could dismantle any of them.
Also, recent history tells me that Republican hatred of HC is much greater than fear of Socialism. They will vote in droves.
Bernie trusts people, gives them credit for being able to use common sense. He is focused on the common good. Even blind people can see this.
💥🌟💥
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)Hillary supporter who declares they will not vote for Sanders in the GE
Now let's all hold our breath and wait for that ban hammer to come down
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)It clearly says I won't vote for Sanders in the primary because I am afraid he would lose. the general election. I will vote for whomever is the Democratic candidate in November.
But you knew that anyway, right?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)EOM
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Shocking.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)How dare he have a successful career and be a Democrat!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)paucity of their post. Just let it go.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Or when you have one set of standards for Bernie and one set of standards for everybody else
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Interesting.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Now would you?
one_voice
(20,043 posts)How does that work?
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)Crap.
JI7
(93,615 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)to everyone who votes for Clinton.
A corporate lackey if ever there was one!
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)-RoccoR5955
Samuel L. Jackson Charity Work, Events and Causes

Samuel L. Jackson was an usher at the funeral of Martin Luther King in 1968, which led him to become active in the civil rights movement.
Charities & foundations supported
21st Century Leaders
AmberWatch Foundation
Artists for a New South Africa
Champions for Children
Elton John AIDS Foundation
Friars Foundation
Hilarity for Charity
Listen Campaign
Los Angeles Police Memorial Foundation
Luke Neuhedel Foundation
Make-A-Wish Foundation
MASSIVEGOOD
National Kidney Foundation
Nelson Mandela Children's Fund
PATH
Project Last Stand
Rape Foundation
Rock For Darfur
Save the Children
Stand Up To Cancer
The HollyRod Foundation
Treatment Action Campaign
Whatever It Takes
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
Indydem
(2,642 posts)Don't you understand!?
Only the rich, the right wing, and the corporate lackeys support Clinton.
No one else would dare support anyone but Bernie Sanders! No one!!!!!!!!!1!!!
Herp derp.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)That doesn't make him any less a corporate lackey! n/t
-RoccoR5955

Charities & foundations supported
21st Century Leaders
AmberWatch Foundation
Artists for a New South Africa
Champions for Children
Elton John AIDS Foundation
Friars Foundation
Hilarity for Charity
Listen Campaign
Los Angeles Police Memorial Foundation
Luke Neuhedel Foundation
Make-A-Wish Foundation
MASSIVEGOOD
National Kidney Foundation
Nelson Mandela Children's Fund
PATH
Project Last Stand
Rape Foundation
Rock For Darfur
Save the Children
Stand Up To Cancer
The HollyRod Foundation
Treatment Action Campaign
Whatever It Takes
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
oasis
(53,692 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)I didn't think so. Just name calling someone who has a life you know nothing about.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Since I have been active in causes from ending the Viet Nam War, to stopping the opening of the Shoreham Nuclear Plant, to the cleaning up of the Hudson River, to working at my local food co-op and community serviced agriculture farm, to many more numerous causes I have actually worked for with my own two hands and minds.
For 46 years I have been doing it, and shall continue to do so.
Just because someone donates money to a cause does not make them a good person. Look at all of the "good causes" that the Koch brothers have donated to. The list is as long as your arm. Does that make the Koch brothers good guys? I didn't think so.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I've been told that pretty much is the civil rights trump card right there.
840high
(17,196 posts)actor but I really don't care who he votes for.
Vermin Supreme
(29 posts)Who is this guy?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_L._Jackson
Vermin Supreme
(29 posts)Thanks for the information. Rich supporting the rich. Nothing new.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Oh, some rich two bit actor
Thanks for the information. Rich supporting the rich. Nothing new.
What distinguishes a two bit actor from an accomplished thespian and can you please demonstrate the nexus between a person's wealth and his or her choice of candidates?
Thank you in advance for answering my two questions .
Oh, I have a third question...
Donald Trump would cut Samuel L Jackson's taxes, a lot. If his vote was primarily an economic one why isn't he supporting Trump?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)To a critic of his career and character.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Stephen in Django Unchained
Wesley Snipes' crack addicted brother in Jungle Fever
The aggrieved father whose daughter was killed by racists in Time To Kill
Coach Carter
I don't think these broadsides help their candidate but it's unwise to stop your opponent when he is shooting himself in the foot.
Did you know he was in Goodfellas?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Really like a lot of his work.
Interestingly enough, I would say the same thing if he spoke highly of Sanders, as he did.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)Black Snake Moan. Christina Ricci as well.
eta: I liked all the ones you listed as well.
randys1
(16,286 posts)and a superstar.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Did you know he was one of the usher's at Dr. King's funeral?
randys1
(16,286 posts)as you are.
My post was about voting...I am a fan of his, etc
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Funny, huh?
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Samuel L. Jackson is one of the greats. I don't believe you don't know who he is. In any case, check out the film Jackie Brown. His greatest work IMHO.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)He has an incredible body of work.
And don't forget Pulp Fiction and Shaft.
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)I've lost count. They never get old for me.
I think he should've been nominated for his role in Jackie Brown. Robert Forster wasn't the only one who deserved recognition.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)The scene where he first meets Django is priceless but I can't post it here.
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)I can't wait to see The Hateful Eight.
Karma13612
(4,981 posts)endorsement.
He is using the meme that you should vote in the primary based on electability, but yet he thinks Bernie is great. Here was a chance for a well-respected celebrity to enlighten people instead of supporting the warped self-fulfilling prophesy logic.
I can't help but wonder if his role as the spokesperson for "Capital One Financial Corporation" has anything to do with it.
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Yeah, I'm sure that's why he endorsed Hillary.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and a heck of a good and funny guy.
I met him on the golf course, once. He was in the foursome ahead of me. We kept catching up to his group and at the tee box he had us laughing our butts off.
I bought him a drink (and had a picture taken) back in the club house.
(Sorry to those offend that would have my past time, as an elitist pursuit.)
one_voice
(20,043 posts)supporting Bernie?
Maybe you can explain the difference.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)As I feel it is important. You say you never heard of him. In under four minutes you made claim to his talent and character. The only possible way to do that in under four minutes is from appearance alone. What is it about his appearance that brought such negativity out in you?
Completely fair question considering your two posts.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)SAY WHO again! And I dare you, I double dare you m-----------! Say who one more time!"
one_voice
(20,043 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Vermin Supreme
(29 posts)It's a nice one!
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)just as predicted. Marvelous (sarcasm)
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)And here comes Bill to help Hillary,
just as predicted. Marvelous (sarcasm)
-Duval
What does Bill Clinton have to do with a thread about Samuel L. Jackson endorsing Hillary Clinton?
Thank you in advance.
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Too many tabs open? It happens.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
gordyfl This message was self-deleted by its author.
gordyfl
(598 posts)Actor Samuel L. Jackson said Sunday that he is backing Hillary Clinton for president next year because Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has no chance of winning the White House.
Im forever a Democrat, you know, and Im gonna vote for Hillary, he said, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
"I mean, I love Bernie Bernies a man of the people but he cant win, Jackson continued.

SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)Jackson had to say about how Bernie can't win.
What a cop out reason to vote for Hillary.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)NOT!!! Hes just another 1%er, supporting his fellow 1%er.
I could care less what he thinks. What a waste of keystrokes.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)NOT!!! Hes just another 1%er, supporting his fellow 1%er.
I could care less what he thinks. What a waste of keystrokes.
-Smitty Mo

Samuel L. Jackson was an usher at the funeral of Martin Luther King in 1968, which led him to become active in the civil rights movement.
Charities & foundations supported
21st Century Leaders
AmberWatch Foundation
Artists for a New South Africa
Champions for Children
Elton John AIDS Foundation
Friars Foundation
Hilarity for Charity
Listen Campaign
Los Angeles Police Memorial Foundation
Luke Neuhedel Foundation
Make-A-Wish Foundation
MASSIVEGOOD
National Kidney Foundation
Nelson Mandela Children's Fund
PATH
Project Last Stand
Rape Foundation
Rock For Darfur
Save the Children
Stand Up To Cancer
The HollyRod Foundation
Treatment Action Campaign
Whatever It Takes
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
tularetom
(23,664 posts)and probably 95% of Americans, do not give a flying fuck what Samuel L Jackson thinks. And I'm one of them.
And if he endorsed Sanders? That wouldn't impress me either.
Response to tularetom (Reply #52)
rbrnmw This message was self-deleted by its author.
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)
JunkyardAngel83
(72 posts)Every time my fingers touch brain, I'm Superfly TNT. I'm the Guns of the Navarone!"
Wrong scene but I just love Pulp Fiction. So many quotable lines.
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)We used to have parts of it memorized in college.
polichick
(37,626 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)He'll even take a picture with you.
underpants
(196,491 posts)LS_Editor
(920 posts)bl968
(360 posts)I lost all respect for him a long time ago and this just seals the deal
The shootings at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., have stirred up a slew of gun-control sentiment in Hollywood.
But an actor who stars in perhaps the most gun-heavy movie of the season says that an abundance of firearms in this country isn't necessarily the problem, and that reducing them isn't automatically the answer.
"I don't think it's about more gun control," said Samuel L. Jackson, who stars as a conniving house slave in Quentin Tarantino's upcoming revenge fantasy "Django Unchained." "I grew up in the South with guns everywhere and we never shot anyone. This [shooting] is about people who aren't taught the value of life."
Tell that to a parent who has lost a child to gun violence...
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)is that he thinks Bernie can't win the White House in the general election (which is a silly notion). He didn't say anything about he ideas and policies being the determinant and I think the Hillary supporters clapping and cheering this endorsement should note that fact. What Samuel L. is offering is a bandwagon endorsement, or something like "I'm a Panthers fan because they're 14-1 and appear likely to do well in the playoffs".
If Bernie wins the nomination, Samuel will being voting for him.
fbc
(1,668 posts)I'm sure the Hillary supporters would love for people to continue under this mistaken assumption, but it's not true and poll after poll shows it to be false.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)is to convince people that Hillary's nomination is inevitable, and it's working on some people.
I'm a Samuel Jackson fan, but I never believed he was a particularly conscious guy politically when not in front of the camera.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)He was politically conscious enough to be an usher at Dr. King's funeral at nineteen years old:
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)Telling me he was at MLK's funeral isn't telling me anything about where his mind is today. I'm sure there were people at the funeral who were secretly glad King was dead, but they'll be the first to say they were there today.
Samuel L. just seems like the kind of guy who's going to be for whomever he feels everyone else is for. Like I said to another responder, he's not on the same level as a Danny Glover or Harry Belafonte - Samuel L. plays it safe. I think his heart is in the right place but if he's supporting Hillary and agrees with her positions historically on the issues (before she changed them), then I definitely question his level of consciousness.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)First, being an usher at Dr. King's funeral is a little more than him "being at MKL's funeral" ... But more, you continue to make a judgement on the man's "consciousness" without ever having met him; but rather, because he has endorsed a candidate that you have never met ... that is laughable, if it weren't so sad.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)everyday based on the information available on them and the way our own life perspective shapes our interpretation of that information. I, like anyone else, am allowed to form my own opinion of someone just as much as you are. We make the same judgments about elected officials every election cycle (people we've never met), so let's not play games and pretend as if I'm doing something intolerable.
I told you why I don't think Samuel L. is a very conscious dude, and you can accept it or not, that's your prerogative. Your problem with my critique of him is because you're a Hillary fan and I'm poo-pooing his celebrity endorsement. And if you think my critique is showing signs of sanctimony, then I'll admit to that criticism (especially the part about saying the n-word so much).
Or maybe you're taking my criticism of Samuel L. a little too personally?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You are pretty poor at reading the available information ... I am NOT a HRC fan or supporter (though I will vote for her, should she be the nominee) and I don't give a much (any) weight to celebrity endorsement, and have said so repeatedly.
I just have a problem with people making moral judgments about people they have never met based on their celebrity personas ... it is shallow and sanctimonious.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)to judge me as shallow and sanctimonious? OK haha.
I know a lot more about Samuel L. than you do about me.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)nyabingi
(1,145 posts)just pointing out your hypocrisy my friend.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)like I said ... you will fit in well here ... well, at least until the Democratic primaries are over.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Have you encountered him when he was NOT on camera? He is very active by a list of the groups/charities/organizations that he supports ... and, oh yeah, he seemed pretty "conscious" to me, when after the round of golf I referred to earlier, he stopped a drunk guy from harassing a waitress and when he asked why there were so few Latinos and Native Americans on the resort staff.
nyabingi
(1,145 posts)but I can judge from what he says and does on and off camera to determine his level of consciousness.
By looking at how conscious he is, I'm not talking about how "active" he is in his charities and other things. I'm talking about how deeply he's looking at the issues, if he's really digging below the superficial information that is peddled on our mainstream media, if he's really seeing the broader, more expansive picture than what is painted for us by the NYT and CNN. I've always felt that he was "down" to a certain extent, but it was only shallow. Compare Samuel L to someone like a Harry Belafonte, Muhammad Ali, Danny Glover, or even a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and I think you can see what I mean that he's not quite on that level of consciousness.
Plus, any Black man who'll agree to say the n-word a hundred times in his movies can't be very conscious - that has always bothered about him (and any other Black actor of celebrity who does).
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)not by what he does. i.e., the programs/organization/charities he supports; but rather, by "any Black man who'll agree to say the n-word a hundred times in his movies can't be very conscious". How sanctimonious of you.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Why is it seemingly okay for rappers who have endorsed the Vermont senator to use the n-word with abandon but it is verboten for an actor who has endorsed Hillary Clinton to use the n-word, especially when the latter is acting ?
Thank you in advance.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)one feels the bern, and a prime mover in the Black community; while the other, is "just a two bit actor", that has done nothing for the Black community ... to hear DU:Bernie, tell it.
gordyfl
(598 posts)Yes, and as long as she keeps repeating that this election is about her and Trump, people will jump on the bandwagon.
That's probably why Hillary supporters keep repeating polls, over and over again. They want us to jump on the supposed bandwagon. In other words, "Get in line."
Republicans have been known as the Party whose voters normally "get in line". This year things are different. Jeb can't even get out of the starting gate.
Remember how many people were saying "No way!" to a Bush vs Clinton election? Republicans have so far rejected "establishment politics". Dems are still insisting that we get in line behind the establishment candidate. We'll see what happens.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)He's phenomenal as always.
And I gave no spoilers!
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)But in my opinion the oscar must go to kurt russell's moustache
A week later and i still stand in awe
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)Capital One pays the bills. Birds of a feather.
GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)Said the spokesman for the banksters.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Said the spokesman for the bankster

Samuel L. Jackson was an usher at the funeral of Martin Luther King in 1968, which led him to become active in the civil rights movement.
Charities & foundations supported
21st Century Leaders
AmberWatch Foundation
Artists for a New South Africa
Champions for Children
Elton John AIDS Foundation
Friars Foundation
Hilarity for Charity
Listen Campaign
Los Angeles Police Memorial Foundation
Luke Neuhedel Foundation
Make-A-Wish Foundation
MASSIVEGOOD
National Kidney Foundation
Nelson Mandela Children's Fund
PATH
Project Last Stand
Rape Foundation
Rock For Darfur
Save the Children
Stand Up To Cancer
The HollyRod Foundation
Treatment Action Campaign
Whatever It Takes
https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
Pauldg47
(644 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)Thank you in advance.
Pauldg47
(644 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,849 posts)He is an actor who did a commercial for Capital One. if that makes him a bankster than Magic Johnson was a hamburger because he did a commercial for McDonalds.
postatomic
(1,771 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)a forlorn letter of resignation.
ie resigned to the inevitable
Specifically would endorse Bernie if he believed he could win.
Somebody is going to change his mind, my opinion.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Cha
(319,067 posts)Yeah! Thank you, DBS!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,895 posts)I believe DU has turned a corner.