2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSamuel L. Jackson golfing anecdote
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/magazine/how-samuel-l-jackson-became-his-own-genre.htmlOne day, Jackson told me, Trump said to him, My friend Bill might play with us next week, Sam. Jackson said, Bill who? Trump said, Clinton. Jackson said, Oh, yeah, I played with Bill last week in the Bahamas.
Edit with my thoughts about this:
I read on another thread how it would "besmirch" the party to have Trump supporters vote for Bernie.
I suppose my point in this post is to show how people at the top are all schmoozing with each other, and how artificial the divisions among us regular people are. We're calling Trump a fascist. But Samuel Jackson and Bill Clinton golf with him?
It would be just as illuminating to post this at Free Republic. We know what they say about Obama, imagine what they say about Samuel Jackson, who was literally a Black Panther. But their straight-talking hero Trump is golfing with him?
So these people at the top are all hanging out, and we accept that. But Bernie tries to get some Trump people to vote Democrat, but we can't have that, they are unclean somehow.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Perfect fit with Clinton.
Dem2
(8,178 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)When I don't like something on TV, it is not because I am "jealous". That is ridiculous, and quite a reach.
Dem2
(8,178 posts)Amrite?
I guarantee that you'd be singing the praises of Samuel L. if he had just endorsed Bernie.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Bernie. I think endorsements are interesting, but cannot recall having ever switched support for a politician or a brand of soda, or anything in between, because of an endorsement.
This is a more interesting charge than saying I am jealous of Jackson earning a living, though, there's that.
Shoot - Jamie Dimon is just earning a living. So am I. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? People who make movies I don't care to see are earning a living - doesn't mean I have to watch their movies.
Dem2
(8,178 posts)I think it's worth wondering why it bothered you so.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)In this case, the reality that for most people, regardless of their station in life, accepting employment is not a political statement.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Are sitting in mommy's house hunkered down in front of the new laptop for Christmas in between sessions with the new Xbox
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He's a fantastic actor with many memorable characters ... and many memorable quotes.
GeorgeGist
(25,570 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Clinton Derangement Syndrome
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and right over Samuel L. Motherfucking Jackson.
djean111
(14,255 posts)This "under the bus" stuff makes me laugh, any more. Has become over-used and meaningless, unless one feels that an endorsement would really actually cause someone to switch support, regardless of actual issues. This is not like switching from Coca-Cola to Pepsi, because of Michael Jackson, ya know.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... not as serious as some people pretend. It's just that some celebs are more fun than others.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)And a sickening one, too.
marble falls
(71,924 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You take trump's "my friend, Bill" statement to be anything more than a braggart, reciting his rolodex? Really?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)EOM
Nitram
(27,749 posts)Clinton Derangement Syndrome
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)They are all members of a very exclusive club who socialize together. And the fact that Trump and Jackson were trying to one up each other by name dropping Bill Clinton emphasizes that.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Do you believe that Samuel L. Jackson, Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are "close friends" as that term is commonly understood?
Thank you in advance.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)You can keep your thanks.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)One of the most poignant thing I read on the internet was from a teenager on the ESPN board who went by the handle of demons. He said there are real people with feelings behind their internet connections.
Your unduly harsh response to my innocuous question has hurt my feelings. Where do I go for salve?
brush
(61,033 posts)Samuel L. Jackson and Trump friends? Nah!
I play golf and at times you're in a foursome with people you don't even know and won't see again.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and neither were friends of ours ...
And, if I could have had a former President at my wedding, I would have done so in a heart beat.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Do you believe Shaquille O'Neal, Mike Tyson, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump are "close friends" as that term is commonly understood?
Thank you in advance.
And I would be remiss in not wishing you a happy New Year.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)In this case, the reality that for most people is that people want to be seen with celebrity; whether, they know, or even like, them ... And doing so, is not a political statement.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)The Clinton and Trump are not "friends
Because Clinton go wherever the big check are being cut
The Clinton would have diner with Lucifer himself if the amount was right
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)his attendance carries much more bragging rights than inviting one's boss.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Great endorsement.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)he conceded that Bernie is a "man of the people".
Paulie
(8,464 posts)What high praise!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It was a gracious endorsement with kind words said all the way around about democrats.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Thank you in advance?
DemocratSinceBirth
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https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/samuel-l-jackson
Jackson campaigned during the 2008 Democratic Primary for Barack Obama in Texarkana, Texas. He said: "Barack Obama represents everything I was told I could be growing up. I am a child of segregation. When I grew up and people told me I could be president, I knew it was a lie. But now we have a representative... the American Dream is a reality. Anyone can grow up to be a president." Jackson also said: "I voted for Barack because he was black. That's why other folks vote for other people because they look like them". He compared his Django Unchained character, a villainous house slave, to black conservative Justice Clarence Thomas, saying that "I have the same moral compass as Clarence Thomas does".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_L._Jackson
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Had such passionate and negative thoughts toward him. Love him.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Prior to his endorsing Hillary Clinton I was led to believe he was one of the "good guys". Despite the admonitions on this board I will continue to believe he is one of the good guys even though he plays golf.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>never played golf in his life...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)until the endorsement announcement ... just like no one (few) here, even, knew who Killer Mike was, until his endorsement, at which point he became a cultural icon and prime mover in the Black community.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)and he is a golfing buddy of Donald Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)I never played golf but I know people who do and they usually play golf with the same people, hence the appellation "golfing buddies" ?
Do you have any evidence that Mr Trump and Jackson are regularly paired together on the golf course?
Elsewhere in this thread I mentioned that Bill Clinton and O.J. Simpson played golf together. Would you consider them "golfing buddies" ?
Thank you in advance for answering my two questions.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)especially, his it is on one of his resort courses ... as they are among the best laid out, and maintained, in the world. I would even pay to play ... which, as a guest of trump, I doubt any of them did.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)Sour grapes.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)and sour grapes.
Starry Messenger
(32,381 posts)yardwork
(69,364 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)Are Democrats supposed to embrace or push away Samuel L. Jackson?
yardwork
(69,364 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
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Enrique
(27,461 posts)that presidents don't play golf?
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)
Franklin Roosevelt played but not much after he contracted polio at age 35.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)because they play golf together ... and therefore, he's a bad, bad, man, whose celebrity endorsement won't be missed?
I know, it sounds kind of silly, when you read it back to yourself.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)as you know, that was not my argument.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I read on another thread how it would "besmirch" the party to have Trump supporters vote for Bernie.
I suppose my point in this post is to show how people at the top are all schmoozing with each other, and how artificial the divisions among us regular people are. We're calling Trump a fascist. But Samuel Jackson and Bill Clinton golf with him?
It would be just as illuminating to post this at Free Republic. We know what they say about Obama, imagine what they say about Samuel Jackson, who was literally a Black Panther. But their straight-talking hero Trump is golfing with him?
So these people at the top are all hanging out, and we accept that. But Bernie tries to get some Trump people to vote Democrat, but we can't have that, they are unclean somehow.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)I would think even the densest Freepers and Cavers realize that rich folks, regardless of their political orientation, travel in different social circles than the rest of us but mere fraternization is not tantamount to an endorsement. That being said, I don't think they want to have much to do with me and I don't want to have much to do with them.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)who are republicans just because they are Republicans, and they will never change.
On the other hand, there are no doubt some Republicans who vote that way based on the information they've been exposed to, and the thought process they have undergone up until now. These people can be won over and it's worth it to try, imho.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)explanation.
brush
(61,033 posts)Sometimes you're in a foursome with people you don't even know and won't see again.
You're there to play because you've been bitten by the goddamn golfing bug and you just want to play, maybe even with a-holes that you don't consider friends.
It happens.
DemocratSinceBirth
(101,852 posts)West was the only guy among his golf buddies at the tony Belleair Country Club who was supporting Obama. Talk about being caught in two worlds.
