2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI'm riding Amtrak down the Pacific Coast. We are almost
to Santa Barbara.
We pass quite a few multimillion dollar ranch homes over looking the ocean.
The owners have much more than I ever will. I don't hate them. I don't think they are all evil mofos with there foot on the middle class and the poor.
I would like them to pay more in taxes. Maybe a personal property tax.
The money raised should be used to help less wealthy raise to their potential.
That means making opportunity available to those who want to use it to better their outcomes.
That's what Hillary's campaign is about.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)opportunity to be so. We are against removal of the ladders that allow for people to be socially mobile.
Rex
(65,616 posts)But you know...evil rich people...etc..
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Sounds like a characterization of "evil rich people".
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)is that some are *absurdly* rich and a system which has allowed them to do so. The same system enacted primarily by those same individuals and their ankle kissers.
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Beartracks
(12,814 posts)We took the Starlight Coastal from SF to LA once, and it's one of our favorite vacation memories.
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)and that is to stay there.
It is truly one of the most wonderful cities in the U.S.
Don't forget to visit the San Diego Zoo.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)It is amazing to learn how few people understand the situation in this country and think like children while peering out a window.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)That's a great train ride -- I love going up and down the coast here via RR tracks...
Happy New Year!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Shit, man. Must be rough.
villager
(26,001 posts)...and thought about just wandering around in those swell neighborhoods, during my visits to "mere" Santa Barbara...
I'm livin' more prosaically down in the mighty "818..."
Happy New Year, Warren DeM.!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And a Happy New Year to you, too!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)And it is quite likely that the voters of that most populous state will vote to Legalize marijuana for adult recreational posession, use and purchase in 2016.
Hillary people getting out of their east coast, beltway bubble = a good thing.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)There is a guy at the beach I go to who sells pot. He is mean to men who are not his customers
Legalization will put him out of business
I hope it happens
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The transition to full legalization was pretty painless and seamless. Our tax holiday ends tomorrow, at which point OR will pull in something like 25% in revenue from all sales.
Like marriage equality, it's something that is long overdue.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)So it's not really a matter of if but when.
jfern
(5,204 posts)See, it's not so simple with the income. Someone making $60k a year in California who bought a house 40 years ago and paid off the mortgage and pays little in property taxes is better off than someone making $100k a year who can't possibly afford a house.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)Or other minorities...
Definitely the poor.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)To get the railroad into their town, land was donated to build rail facilities. Business moved close to the railroad for shipping
Land became zoned for business and residential
Those who could afford it moved a cross the tracks to only residential.
Those who could not remained on the other side of the tracks
WillyT
(72,631 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I am headed now. Growing up my dad brought home $60 a week to a family of five. My mom worked and I started working summers in the fourth grade. I will retire at 70 in 4 months.
I am not rich
WillyT
(72,631 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I don't know if what you post about Hillary is made up or you really believe it.
Either way it is not realistic.
I tell everyone that soon you will agree with me.
I sincerely hope you have a Happy New year Willy
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)As you have discovered, Amtrak creeps along on old tracks with tight curves. The trip through southern Oregon and northern California is pure torture. Let's take some of that tax money and improve our passenger rail system. Tax people who drive Beamers and Corvettes.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Enjoy the views.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)forgotten a lot of people. She has forgotten the elderly, the disabled, those living in areas that do not have jobs for all, and the children of the poor because a lot of these people CANNOT use it to better their outcomes. They will need continued assistance.
That is what Bill and her forgot when they "reformed" welfare the first time and hurt so many of us.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)just going to tell the 1% to "cut it out!" or something like that.
oasis
(49,386 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...to others without knowing what their motives really are.
Your post insinuates that people who support someone other than Hillary Clinton, "hate" the rich for being rich.
Speaking for myself, I do not hate the rich for being rich. But I DO hate that so many in this country have so little, and I DO recognize that this is in no small part due to the political manipulations of the rich and the super-rich.
There is only one candidate who is speaking for the many who are being ripped off in this system, so that the very, very few can have riches beyond imagination.