My Son, His Friends, BERNIE SANDERS, And Sociology Class

[Segami]

I just had a very illuminating conversation with my son. This year will be the first that he’s eligible to vote. I’ve spoken with him off and on about politics over the years. I even got him to make some calls for the president in the last election. However this election cycle means so much more to him, which is why he’s really paying attention, as are his friends.

The first thing he told me was that everyone he knows (he’s got a large circle of friends and acquaintances) are afraid of Trump. His friends include people from every spectrum: male, female, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, straight, gay, Christian, Muslim, non-religious, and “spiritual.” All of them say that Trump is bad news for the country and they will show up at the polls to vote against him because they either are a member of one of the groups Trump has insulted, or they love someone who is a member of one of the groups Trump has insulted. He said they also thought Trump was a fascist with “Scary Hair.”

The second most interesting thing is that all of them are voting for Bernie Sanders. Now these are first time voters, kids who never participated in national elections, many of whom had no interest in politics until now. But my son said Trump didn’t get them interested in this election. He just gave them another reason to vote.

Bernie Sanders is the one who lit the fire beneath them.

Bernie is the one who got them to sit down and take notice. Bernie is the one who captured their imagination and attention, and Bernie, my son said, is the one who will get them to the polls. If he’s not the nominee, most, if not all of them say they’ll be writing his name in. Nobody else excites them or motivates them like Bernie. I asked him why Bernie? He said, “Because we believe him when he speaks. We know he’s telling the truth.” That's the kicker right there. He sees politicians--all politicians--as liars. His friends do as well. But Bernie resonates with them.

They trust him.

This isn’t just something that’s indicative of his close circle of friends, which brings me to my third and final point. My son is in his first year in college. His sociology professor polled the kids shortly before Christmas break about the primary. There are about 30 in the class. She asked each one if they were voting, and if so, who were they voting for. They wrote their answers down anonymously and dropped them in a box. Of the 95% who said they were voting, 100% said they were voting for Bernie Sanders. About 70% said they’d be writing Sanders’ name in if he didn’t win. Their main issues of concern: Student Loan Debt, Health Insurance, Climate Change, and Jobs/Economy. I don’t know what the order of significance was for each of these issues, but those were the ones the kids cited as the most important.

I ended our conversation by telling my son to make sure his friends understand their significance in the upcoming primary and the election cycle overall. They will be the deciding factor. I also said the youth vote is the most unreliable of all, so they need to prove us old farts wrong by showing up on election day because Senator Sanders is counting on them.


cont'

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/31/1465134/-My-Son-His-friends-Bernie-Sanders-and-Sociology-Class

[onecaliberal]

1. Fantastic!

I saw a "Feel The Bern" bumper sticker today, in the middle of blood red central California. It was heartwarming.

[humbled_opinion]

54. Doesn't surprise me a bit

Bernie's message of income equality resonates with all political ideologies. People are smart they know they are being fleeced by Wall Street, I just hope they connect the dots and reject the Clinton Wall Street enablers. Only one candidate is being honest about ending income inequality anyone else speaking on the issue is simply pandering for votes...

[onecaliberal]

57. It definitely gives me hope. I've yet to see a sticker from the clown car.

The establishment will never see the wave of first time, young voters and disenfranchised who show up the boot them finally.

[CorporatistNation]

62. Same In Florida.. K and R!

!

[bjobotts]

73. Same in MO. K & R

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

106. Same at Western Illinois University, and they're good at picking winners

Western Illinois University (WIU) has correctly prognosticated each president since 1975, and it's got some ideas about next year's contest, too. According to the university's mock election, the 45th president of the United States will be Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who's running as a Democrat in 2016.


http://www.refinery29.com/2015/12/99193/western-illinois-university-2016-election-prediction

[Le Taz Hot]

118. We're in Fresno and we've given out probably 40+

bumper stickers (the campaign keeps sending us freebies) and countless Bernie buttons. Every time we have an event we lay 10 or 15 out, along with the Donations jar (pays for copying flyers) and we're always cleaned out by the end of the Event.

Btw, check out the voter registration for "blood red Central California." Fresno County is majority registered Democrat it's just that the local Democrats (who were recently front page news for their infighting) can't get their shit together long enough to find candidates, much less actually get anyone elected. LOTS of liberals here, they just don't want to have anything to do with the local Democratic party (for good reason).

[onecaliberal]

121. About 11years ago I was very active in the Dem Central Committee in Fresno county.

It was the same bologna then. We finally gave up and started doing other things to help the state party.
I went door to door in the 5 mile radius surrounding my house in '08 there were about 20 registered dems, in the whole area the rest were cons. The reason this place is blood red is because cons always vote while dems spend all their time dividing themselves.
On edit: Disclaimer: the city I live in is VERY conservative. Not representative of neighboring cities.

[CharlotteVale]

2. K&R

[Bjorn Against]

3. As a person whose degree is in Sociology this does not surprise me a bit

The issues that Bernie talks about are issues that have always been major topics of discussion in sociology. Many of these classes focus heavily on income inequality, class conflict, racial and gender inequities, and the struggles of the working class. Bernie sounds like a Sociology professor when he speaks, I can guarantee that he is going to do very well with voters that have a degree in Sociology.

[jwirr]

30. Me to. And yes he will do very well with our group.

[KingCharlemagne]

33. And with voters with degrees in History and English! :) - nt

[libdem4life]

74. Soc/Anthropology....1971...Go Bernie

[fasttense]

98. Before Bernie, no one was talking about expnding Medicare,

No tuition for college, expanding Social Security, the immortality of capatalism and changing our mad decent into global warming. I think for the 1st time, people are realizing how government can make a positive difference in our everyday lives.

Bernie has opened the minds and imaginations of people who use to think government was only there to collect taxes and make life difficult. He has made a lot of people rethink the purpose and usefulness of government and our economic system.

[Bjorn Against]

99. There were actually many people talking about those issues, we just couldn't vote for them

The issues Bernie is talking about are issues that many Americans have been thinking about for decades, the problem is that prior to this there was never a viable candidate that was really willing to take on the corporate powers.

Bernie does not represent a new vision for America, what he does represent is the vision that millions of Americans have held for decades but were never given the opportunity to vote for. In the past it has always been a choice between the extremely corrupt Republican candidate versus the Democrat that was somewhat less corrupt but still very much corporate friendly. It is extremely rare that we have the opportunity to vote for a viable candidate like Bernie that is not corrupted by the extremely wealthy.

[fasttense]

113. I did not mean literally

Yes, many Americans were still talking about those things. They just weren't being talked about in conjunction with presidential campaigns in the corporate media and as realistic possibilities.

Some may have even touched on those subjects in their campaigns but no one saw them as ever really having a chance of being implemented. Now, even if Bernie doesn't become president, people will be asking about those issues. BUT I'm pretty sure he will be elected.

[rhett o rick]

4. k & r. Thanks for posting. nm

[catnhatnh]

5. Yeah but...

....their Abuela loves Kwanzaa....

[peacebird]

9. LOL! Nicely played!

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Heh...

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[840high]

45. Heehee

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.

[peacebird]

7. Awesome! Love hearing this!

[Trajan]

8. Awesome

Lovin it ...

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. “Because we believe him when he speaks. We know he’s telling the truth.”

EXACTLY! I agree with those young voters. ALL politicians (except Bernie) lie and that's unacceptable.


When Bernie speaks, you know he's telling the truth. When TPTB are all trying to stop him. Corporations, Wall St., the corrupt corporate owned MSM, HRH, MOM, DWS and the DNC, just means he's doing everything right.

Our intelligent, involved Millennials are going to save our country. They're the ones who are going to give Bernie a landslide in Iowa and NH. I like the "writing in Bernie" move, but they won't need to do that because Bernie will be the nominee, thanks to them!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Doctor_J]

11. The party is making an epic mistake by insisting on Clinton. is it possible that her supporters

don't realize that these young people could be locked up as dedicated democrats for twenty years? Are they so afraid of universal healthcare and education that they will reject millions of new and apathetic voters, and hand the republicans even bigger congressional majorities, just to appease wall street and the Pentagon? What's left of the party?

Rec

[KingCharlemagne]

50. Its Adlai Stevenson, v 2.0 - nt

[reformist2]

108. That's a really good analogy, imo. Also, Dems never do well when they nominate retreads.

[stupidicus]

12. that's pretty much where my son and crew are too

eom

[Chef Eric]

15. And my niece and most of her friends. nt

[democrank]

14. ~Believe~

Go Bernie !

[SCantiGOP]

16. These constant anecdotal stories

really don't advance the discussion. Who are you trying to convince?

Every day there are dozens of Bernie posts that start "a young man I talked to today..." or "Saw 5 Bernie bumper stickers in the mall parking lot...." and then they all end like this OP (normally in Bold letters): And all of them are voting for Bernie!!

We'll guess what? I have been involved for more than 4 decades in Party politics in SC and, just like the polls indicate, practically everyone I know who is active in Dem politics is supporting Hillary. Don't believe me? Well you can watch it on the news in about 6 weeks when she basically sews up the nomination with a better than 2:1 win in the 3rd state to vote.

[Segami]

18. Well....

Goodie for you.......

BTW.....I don't believe I need to convince anyone here about who they should be supporting in the primary.

[chervilant]

23. Oh, look!

Another candidate for my IL...

[zeemike]

26. So those active in Dem politics will decide then.

Not the voters...I see.

[SCantiGOP]

34. Actually, yes

Republicans vote in their primary, so it will be Democrats voting to see who gets the state's delegates at the convention.

[zeemike]

44. So every voter is active in the party then.

And you know them.
My guess is that those active in the party is in the single digits...And I have no doubt that they are for Clinton...And if they are the ones who decide then the Democratic part of the party is a joke.

[roguevalley]

60. I think the problem here is Bernie supporters HAVE anecdotal stories of enthusiasm and

the supporters of their abuela doesn't.

[zeemike]

69. Good point.

And so they have to rely on dismissive replies.

[tazkcmo]

27. "I have been involved for more than 4 decades in Party politics"

Then you're part of the problem.

[jwirr]

31. 4 decades = 40 years. Exactly the number of years we have

been going down hill.

[tazkcmo]

36. They don't get it, do they?

The party is over. People are fed up, hungry, homeless or can see it coming, over worked, under paid, no benefits, the rug has been yanked out from under us. And here on DU, we see these Real Democrats defend the death of the middle class and upward mobility in this country, touting their "credentials" as if it were a good thing, bragging about high dollar events and rubbing elbows of the connected and powerful. Sickening.

[jwirr]

38. Exactly. But if we do not change things soon they will get it.

[SCantiGOP]

35. So your solution is

Not being involved in the process?
Very interesting approach.

[tazkcmo]

37. No, that's the Third Way

They don't want We The People involved except to cast our votes for them because their not as bad as the GOP crazies.

[SCantiGOP]

39. Now you're not even trying to make sense

[tazkcmo]

43. I know you don't understand. n/t

[SCantiGOP]

47. Oh, I do understand

I just don't think it is a good idea not to have an organized and united Democratic Party to resist the GOP intentions.
Your position is that since I have worked to support the party for a long time that I am part of the problem.
On the count of 3 let's put each other on Ignore.

[sadoldgirl]

53. I understood and understand the system

pretty well. So, let's say HRC gets the nomination
on the dem side, and Cruz gets it from the repugs'
side.
During the last 20 years at least the percentage of
independents has grown to about 40% of the voters,
due to the fact that these voters have not represented them.

Whoever wins the election that group may very well grow
by 5-6% from each side. That will make both parties a
minority of voters, but you don't seem to care about that
result.

Then why should we call the system a representative
republic or a democratic representation?

[murielm99]

71. Thank you for all your hard work for the Democrats.

Don't tell the bernistas that after years of disdaining them, st. bernie is now profiting from that work, by being a johnny-come-lately to the party. He is using the resources the rest of us have spent years building. But, never mind. You are part of the problem.

[rynestonecowboy]

110. I hear this from many older Democrats.

It is true that many longtime supporters of the Democratic party have hung in there through the good and bad times and could always be counted on the help the party. The problem is the party has strayed so far from what it stood for decades ago and many believe Sanders can bring us back to our liberal values. I won't ever understand why the rank and file supporters that have done all the hard work all these years are willing to lay back and let the DNC tell them who they are to support instead of caring about the positions and records of the potential nominees.

[murielm99]

112. No one is telling me to support Hillary.

I am doing that on my own. The only coercion I have seen on DU is from bernistas.

[murielm99]

122. I still don't get why you think

any of us are being told what to do by the DNC.

I live in a red area. I work on down ticket races as often as I do for the big events every four years. We work hard to keep parity on county boards, even school districts and park boards. We try to keep people like Rauner and Walker out of office. We understand how the local, state and national parties all work together. We often end up being on the ticket ourselves, even in losing races, simply to avoid the "No Candidate Filed" label on the ballot. Many times, there is no reward for what we do. We know that millions of hours of volunteer efforts go into a successful campaign. We know that it takes years to build that kind of organization.

I don't think you, Mr. 28 posts, or many of your fellow bernistas here understand what it means to be a Democrat, or a member of any party. Bernie does not understand that himself, or he would not have spent so many years disdaining the Democratic party. He is certainly happy to use their resources now. If anyone has been doing any laying back, it is Bernie, and the johnny-come-lately people who think they have the right to tell us we are not liberals.

I have seen these things before. I have lived through McGovern and Mondale. I worked for their elections, too. You people are telling us to fuck the party, that it does not matter. We know that the down ticket races are important, and that support for the top of the ticket will bring in more votes for those people. We understand how decisions are made at the local and state level, and how the wrong people can wreak direct havoc on the lives of those who can least afford it.

I believe that many of the people posting those things here have never done any election work, or they would know better. I believe that many of them are trolls and republicans also. No one would speak of their party, or speak to their fellow Democrats the way some of you do.

[AgingAmerican]

116. He just laid two bungled midterms at your feet

What more do you need to understand it?

[murielm99]

70. Part of WHAT problem?

Since when is being an active Democrat a problem, especially when addressing other Democrats on a Democratic discussion board?

That is insulting to everyone who has ever voted for Democrats, worked for a candidate, registered voters, done GOTV, etc., etc.

YOU are part of the problem if you think that way.

[KingCharlemagne]

40. Out here in SoCal, I have yet to see a single Hillary bumper sticker, even

though the area was awash in Obama stickers on this day in 2007. Makes me suspect that Hillary's support is a mile wide . . . but an inch deep.

[CoffeeCat]

78. I would say that her support is a mile wide of mainstream media

touting her inevitability and favoring her.

That kind of media favoritism serves a purpose. It creates a reality. People start believing that she will be the nominee and that no one else could possibly win. Especially not Bernie.

So, that gives you supporters. Because people want their party to win.

However, it doesn't give you everyone. It certainly doesn't give you the people who know the MSM is a bought-and-paid for joke.

Also, the support that you garner with this kind of tactic is soft and it's not based on passion. It's not earned. It's a narrative that has been accepted. Support like that is very easily picked off.

That is what happened to Clinton in 2008, and that is what will happen in 2016.

[840high]

46. Who are you trying to convince?

[reACTIONary]

55. Thanks for your 40 years of involvement ! Keep on...

Keeping on.

[dlwickham]

61. let them keep living in their own little world

most of them will be gone in a few months after Hillary wins the nomination

[JonLeibowitz]

66. Let me get this straight...You have 4 decades of experience and don't realize SC is 4th?

[SCantiGOP]

67. Point conceded

Nevada has their caucus a week before the SC Dem primary; the GOP primary is the same day as Nevada.

[ucrdem]

72. I've reached the conclusion that some "social media" are basically all astroturf all the time.

I'm thinking of Twitter, reddit and Facebook. The daily messages with accompanying graphics that typically wind up here from there I'm assuming originate in the Sanders campaign. There's a gazillion of them on Google.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

105. If all you have contact with is establishment Dems than I'm not the least bit surprised....

But this is an anti-establishment election. That's why the Republicans are having to deal with Trump. We saw the same thing in the 70s after Nixon. People were anti-establishment after Watergate and elected a peanut farmer.

All of the establishment members of the party already have their sights on cabinet positions and more than a few have been told they'll get a job in a Hillary Administration.

What the voters want is merely an annoyance.

[questionseverything]

107. sc has a system with no paper to count except the absentee ballots

which leads to this

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7890

South Carolina uses ES&S' 100% unverifiable Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, in this case touch-screen) voting machines at the polling place. The machines, also used in many other states (such as Arkansas, where we recently reported exclusively on the disappearance of thousands of votes on May 18th, which neither state nor local officials are able to explain to this day) are both oft-failed and easily manipulated in such a way that it's almost impossible to detect the systems have been gamed.

As we've written, nearly every time there is an election in South Carolina, whoever the machines end up announcing as the "winner," will likely be the winner, since there is literally no way to guarantee that even a single vote ever cast on such machines was actually recorded as per the voter's intent. It's an insane way to run a democracy, as The BRAD BLOG has spent years, and literally thousands of articles, trying to point out.

Last night, we snarkily Tweeted to that end:
Maybe we shuld recount ballots in SC 2 make sure Alvin Greene actually won. Oh, wait. Never mind. #BallotFreeVoting #DumbAsses

Today, however, we're delighted to see that actual mainstream media are beginning to note the disparities in the patterns of absentee paper-ballot voting versus the polling place results as cast and recorded on ES&S's 100% faith-based voting machines --- the very same machines which have been decertified in state after state, based on repeated scientific reports on their multiple vulnerabilities.

The disparities being found by "three different teams" of unnamed "national academic experts," in their early comparisons between result patterns in the Election Day DRE-tallied "ballots" and the optically-scanned absentee paper ballots are already startling, and raising serious red flags suggesting electronic vote tampering...even as reported in the corporate mainstream media today.............

//////////////////////////////////////////////////

judge rawl took his fight to the sc dems but they didn't want to upset the "rigged" apple cart

[grendelsd]

109. Interesting point, but I wonder

Please understand that I mean no disrespect, nor do I want to participate in flame wars and I am most certainly not trolling.

I can tell you that all of my friends, to the person (GenX and GenY and Millenials), supports Sanders and are not that excited about Secretary Clinton. Surprisingly, most of the people at my work (tech industry and notoriously Libertarian) also support Sanders.

I have never heard anyone say that Secretary Clinton will not be a competent or even good president or is in any way unqualified (other than the froth at the mouth haters). Its the enthusiasm that is lacking.

In the end, many people will drag their asses of the couch to vote for Ms Clinton to prevent a total mess, but is that enough to win the general?

Of course, this could all change as the primaries approach.

My question is, are there other places where Secretary Clinton inspires larges swaths of people that are not boomers? I really am interested as I simply don't see it where I live.

[Fast Walker 52]

114. I think most socially conscious people are into Sanders

but there are a ton of women -- like my wife-- who are not so socially active, but like the idea of a woman supporting:
1) womens' rights
2) gun control
3) being competent and experienced enough to be president

I support Sanders as does my 19 year old son.

It should be an interesting primary season.

[Le Taz Hot]

119. South Carolinians

are mostly Yellow Dog Democrats who will vote for whomever the party orders them to vote for. That's pretty much true of the entire South -- they've been well trained to vote against their own self interests just as they've been trained to believe science is the devil's work and that there's a sky daddy who influences football games. There's a reason South Carolina is one of the early primary states -- it works out well for the oligarchy.

[SCantiGOP]

120. Are you OK with sweeping generalizations

about groups based on race, gender, sexual
orientation, religion, etc., or do you just make broad demeaning statements about people based on geography?

[Le Taz Hot]

123. Your representatives

are all the proof I need.

[SCantiGOP]

124. And your statements

are all that are needed to characterize you. Go back and read your statement and see if it isn't arrogant and smugly elitist.

Fortunately, Sanders is conducting his campaign on a much higher level than the condescending bigotry of many of his supporters here.

[Duval]

17. And my granddaughters who are 22, are very excited about Sanders, as are

their friends. Bernie says what resonates in our hearts and he will do what he says he will do. Let's take back the Congress and the Senate. I'm so glad we have Elizabeth Warren. Gee, a Sanders/Warren ticket would be perfect.

[Amimnoch]

19. It just breaks my heart..

All the hope that is put on that poor old man. I do so hope for the sake of everyone who has partaken of Koolaid sacrament of St. Bernard the Pious that he doesn't win.

All of the feelings of Betrayal if he adapts to his role as president and starts compromising his principles to get some progress made..

OR the feelings of anger and helplessness when he turns out to be the most worthless and ineffectual president in the history of the US if he does try to live up to the sainthood.

[SCantiGOP]

20. Duck, Amimnoch

Incoming !!

[stupidicus]

21. yes, we feel the same about Hillary of Ark

only our concerns are a tad bit wider, like for the victims of her warmongering, etc, she pusues at the behest of her MIC masters

[Amimnoch]

28. Hillary of Ark! I like that, and thank you!

"like for the victims of her warmongering". Don't I know you by some other name at Free Republic? That sure sounds like one of their talking points.

Yes, dear, she voted with the Democratic Leadership in 2003. It was a bad choice that the Democratic Party made at that time to cooperate with the Republicans that had the Presidency and the majority. 82 Democrats in the House, and 29 in the Senate including multiple Presidential candidates that.. hypocritically, nobody here seemed to have issue with THEIR campaigns.. Names like John Edwards, John Kerry, and even our current VP Joe Biden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

So unless you can produce your faux poutrage thread from when they were running, your argument there holds no water.

Also, can you produce your poutrage threads from the corporate sponsors from either of Obama's campaigns? How about Kerry's? A certain side here, who just loves to unapologetically use right wing smear sources in their posts certainly never seemed to ever have a problem with the corporate donations made to candidates before.

Just because one certain sad candidate has such a weak character that he can't accept the kind of campaign support all the rest do without being "bought" by them, doesn't mean the rest suffer from the same weakness of character. Frankly if he can't run a campaign and not care where his funds come from, he's too pathetic to be a President.

[KingCharlemagne]

49. Biden still owes the American people an explanation and

apology for Clarence Thomas!

[stupidicus]

52. and more

eom

[stupidicus]

51. you're barking up the wrong tree

I've been a thirdway critic since the early Clinton years, and argued from the beginning that Bush wouldn't have sold his lies/BS about wmds butfor those BC told before him in an effort to preserve the sanctions and illegal no-fly zones. And actually, that's what really differentiates HC from the rest of the warmongers that voted that way -- she likely had a much better idea how weak the intel actually was.

but what's really amusing about your bs here, is the idea that that vote alone is where the charge comes from or can be reasonably substantiated by, like it's been our only armed conflict of the last few decades or something

Bernie has the better record. His afghan war vote is the biggest blemish on his record imo.

Talk about funny -- "weakness" is now defined as avoiding advantagiousness for principled reasons? That's very Rove-like -- attacking his strength. It's also rightwing-like insomuch as it shows the political acumen and foresight of an earthworm... "insert sarasm thingy here"

WHat's next, he should take Stormfront money like Trump?

[humbled_opinion]

58. I amazes me that

anyone who refuses to support Queen Hillary's multitude of flip floppy positions is somehow part of a vast rightwing conspiracy, did you ever stop and ask yourself why Senator Sanders message of income inequality actually permeates a multitude of political spectrums? You probably can't understand how a candidate can take a stand and not change their position, that just doesn't fit the mold in Hillary land....

[eridani]

59. Let's see the evidence that the majority of freepers are against the Iraq war

Hillary is on their side in this matter.

[uponit7771]

82. heh heh, but victims of gun violence lives are somehow less than victims of war? tia

[beam me up scottie]

83. Except Bernie voted for gun control and Hillary voted for the Iraq war.

Hillary said the Iraq war was a "gift" for the Iraqi people.

We've gone over this before and you still don't seen to understand how many lives were lost and ruined by that war.

Heh heh?

Glad you find this so amusing.

[uponit7771]

84. Not the actions I'm intimating... but good try, I'm not a LIV... so sophistry doesn't help

[beam me up scottie]

85. If you don't know his record on gun control you can't be a high information voter.

But keep flinging feces in a positive thread, it speaks volumes about what's really important to some Hillary supporters.

[uponit7771]

87. I know his recent statements on gun control in the debates and that was enough for me...

... he wasn't trying to excuse his votes just an extremely poor justification for them that's not going to work in south side KC or North Philly.

[beam me up scottie]

88. Like I said, if you don't know his record...

With that I'm done with you and your attempt to hijack this thread.

[uponit7771]

90. Some of his record here (link), again... Sanders credentials in the "blunder" area aren't enough

... to qualify him as a stone thrower

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jul/10/generation-forward-pac/did-bernie-sanders-vote-against-background-checks-/

P.S. Nuance can't be applied to HRC so same goes for SBS

[beam me up scottie]

91. Keep flinging!

[uponit7771]

92. Posting facts about votes isn't flinging

[stupidicus]

97. meangingless garbage of the strawman kind

a vote by him to allow manufacturers to be sued, etc, doesn't stop gun violence like voting against war stops deaths associated with it.

[madokie]

22. Thats a good heart to be broken

is all I know for sure.

[chervilant]

24. Yet another candidate

for my IL.

(Derogating Senator Sanders does NOT work in support of your candidate.)

[Amimnoch]

29. Please do show where you make the same comments about the shit that is slung at Hillary in

copious amounts, and I will gladly give you my direct and unconditional apology.

If you are one of those few here that apply this equally and fairly, then you have it anyway, and rest assured my posts are not directed at you.

[humbled_opinion]

56. Do you get a share of

Hillary's wall street money for spouting that crap?

[uponit7771]

81. Out of the 10,000 issues the left cleaves to Sanders will NEVER EVER EVER compromise on ANY

... ANY of them.

There has been no US president in the past that is great who has ever compromised on a party position to get things done

EVER

/sarcasm <---- cause this is needed around here

[beam me up scottie]

89. ...

[MrMickeysMom]

25. In other words, they're not afraid of terrrrrroooristts!

IN other words, they weren't falling to their knees, saying, "Save us, war mongers. You're our only hope!"

IN OTHER words, they weren't going to be proud of being deployed to a place that the Oil and Gas industry decided they should banks their lives against...

IN OTHER WORDS, they may not have been born a long time ago, BUT THEY WEREN'T BORN YESTERDAY.

I wonder if the priority of concern begins climate change, jobs/economy, student loan debt.

Thank you, Segami!

[ChiciB1]

32. Thanks SOOOOOOO Much For Sharing This...

I too have 3 millennials in my family who are registered to vote and are ALSO BIG on "Feeling The Bern!"

This country will be stuck on stupid if it doesn't WAKE UP and help us MOVE FORWARD! We really need to keep fighting back and spread HIS message to everyone and anyone who's willing to listen!!! Here in Florida we're having to get the word out that we aren't an open Primary state so we need to make sure they re-register if they aren't already Democrats. There are a lot of Independents who aren't aware and we're spreading the word.

[lastone]

41. I'm an old dog

And I'll be phone banking for Bernie next week, for the first time. As a matter of fact it'll be the first time I give my time to a politician ever. He's the real thing, that's why he'll (we'll) win!

Feel the BREN brothers and sisters!

[KoKo]

42. Some Smart Kids There......Hope for the Future!

[Melurkyoulongtime]

48. Even the kids I know here in Texas

are feeling the bern!

[farleftlib]

63. You must be so proud

My son is also a liberal like his mom. We both were fans of Hillary at one time but now can see she is self-serving and very bad for the party and the country. We also will be proudly supporting Bernie in the primaries and the GE. Happy New Year to you and yours and thank you for posting this inspiring message.

[LittleGirl]

80. Welcome to DU

Good to see that you've come to the far left side

[Indepatriot]

64. ANGRY, NAIVE, DELUSIONAL, UNICORN RANCHERS!!!! the lot of them!!!! Pity the post pubescent rabble

who have the audacity to believe that a politician might actually represent them and work to improve their lives. One day they'll GROW UP and realize they should settle for the whichever cipher our Corporate Overlords choose to allow in the game. I hope you told him that the Third Way is the Only Way!!!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

95. Unicorn ranchers....

[Live and Learn]

68. K&R nt

[Enthusiast]

75. Kicked and recommended!

[Babel_17]

76. They are not very transferable voters

And that's just the way it is.

[slipslidingaway]

77. My son and many of his friends are excited to vote for Sanders ...

although they are not necessarily aligned to voting for a party.

Guess we'll see how many turn out to cast a vote for Clinton, the Dem party is playing a very dangerous game IMHO.

[beam me up scottie]

86. It's always encouraging to see young people getting involved in the process.

Ignore the feces flinging, some folks don't know any better.

[Scuba]

94. Print a whole bunch of these and give them to your son ...

[mountain grammy]

96. My 27 year old daughter and everyone she knows in her age group,

are for Bernie. So are my 47 and 44 year old sons, and nearly everyone they know.

Every young person I've had a conversation with lately, from store clerks to busboys, have given me an enthusiastic response when I've mentioned how important it is to register to vote and to think about Bernie Sanders.
We're out here, by the thousands, and no pollster has ever called me!

The Colorado caucuses are March 1st. BE THERE! It'll be a first for my daughter!

[aikoaiko]

100. Someone just alerted in your OP. It's ridiculous.

I'll post the results.

Here we go.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

My Son, His Friends, BERNIE SANDERS, And Sociology Class
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251963813

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate. This is a Democrat website. Bernie Sanders is an independent falsely posing as a Democrat. Any post supporting the foolish old geezer should be hidden and his fanatical koolaid drinking minions banned.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:49 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is an ass.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter should be suspended from DU at the very least for alerting on this post. The DNC invites Sanders to participate in Democratic Party sponsored debates. Enough said. How do you alert on an alerter?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter: There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to hide. Frivolous alert!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh my. What an embarrassing alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you f'ing kidding me? Alerter should have alert privileges taken away because they clearly don't understand what the function is for.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter admits the alert is frivolous. MIRT should be looking at this one.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in

[nc4bo]

102. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

My Son, His Friends, BERNIE SANDERS, And Sociology Class
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251963813

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate. This is a Democrat website. Bernie Sanders is an independent falsely posing as a Democrat. Any post supporting the foolish old geezer should be hidden and his fanatical koolaid drinking minions banned.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:49 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is an ass.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter should be suspended from DU at the very least for alerting on this post. The DNC invites Sanders to participate in Democratic Party sponsored debates. Enough said. How do you alert on an alerter?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter: There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to hide. Frivolous alert!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh my. What an embarrassing alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you f'ing kidding me? Alerter should have alert privileges taken away because they clearly don't understand what the function is for.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter admits the alert is frivolous. MIRT should be looking at this one.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Segami]

117. Someone wants to stymie

DU members from reading & sharing this effective truth post by using frivolous alerts.


Welcome to the new year!

[AgingAmerican]

101. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

My Son, His Friends, BERNIE SANDERS, And Sociology Class
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251963813

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate. This is a Democrat website. Bernie Sanders is an independent falsely posing as a Democrat. Any post supporting the foolish old geezer should be hidden and his fanatical koolaid drinking minions banned.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:49 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is an ass.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter should be suspended from DU at the very least for alerting on this post. The DNC invites Sanders to participate in Democratic Party sponsored debates. Enough said. How do you alert on an alerter?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter: There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to hide. Frivolous alert!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh my. What an embarrassing alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you f'ing kidding me? Alerter should have alert privileges taken away because they clearly don't understand what the function is for.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter admits the alert is frivolous. MIRT should be looking at this one.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[nc4bo]

103. Definite abuse of the jury system.

I agree with some of the jury's responses on a remedy.

[99Forever]

104. K&R x 1,000,000

[aikoaiko]

111. Woah. A SECOND jury alert and results. How is this possible??11?

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

My Son, His Friends, BERNIE SANDERS, And Sociology Class
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251963813

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Inappropriate. This is a Democrat website. Bernie Sanders is the DEVIL. His supporters are his satanic sperm trying to impregnate the uterus of the Democratic party. An unholy democratic socialist offspring would emerge. For the sake of our third-way ova BANZ TEHM ALLLZ!!!@U(*@!!1

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:49 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter is an ass.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter should be suspended from DU at the very least for alerting on this post. The DNC invites Sanders to participate in Democratic Party sponsored debates. Enough said. How do you alert on an alerter?
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter: There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to hide. Frivolous alert!
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh my. What an embarrassing alert.

Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are you f'ing kidding me? Alerter should have alert privileges taken away because they clearly don't understand what the function is for.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter admits the alert is frivolous. MIRT should be looking at this one.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in

[Fast Walker 52]

115. I would say the same is true for my 19 year old son

I just so hope these kids will vote!

My wife and I have been nagging my son to vote.