If Hillary is elected she should be properly referred to as "Ms. President" not "Madam President"

[Luminous Animal]

Not "Madam President."

Sir and Madam are equivalent titles.

Ms. and Mr. are equivalent titles.

[FarPoint]

1. Maybe Ms. is grammar correct..

That said, I just love the sound of Madam President...

[Luminous Animal]

4. Madam is an honorific. The President is a servant to those they represent.

[Tanuki]

15. Since "Mister" is derived from "Master", your logic would suggest

that it would be inappropriate to use that term to address a servant of the people as well.

[Luminous Animal]

2. This is cool… Ms. was proposed in 1901.

In the Nov. 10, 1901, edition of The Sunday Republican of Springfield, Mass., tucked away in an item at the bottom of Page 4, an unnamed writer put forth a modest proposal. “There is a void in the English language which, with some diffidence, we undertake to fill,” the writer began. “Every one has been put in an embarrassing position by ignorance of the status of some woman. To call a maiden Mrs. is only a shade worse than to insult a matron with the inferior title Miss. Yet it is not always easy to know the facts.”

How to avoid this potential social faux pas? The writer suggested “a more comprehensive term which does homage to the sex without expressing any views as to their domestic situation,” namely, Ms. With this “simple” and “easy to write” title, a tactfully ambiguous compromise between Miss and Mrs., “the person concerned can translate it properly according to circumstances.” The writer even gave a pronunciation tip: “For oral use it might be rendered as ‘Mizz,’ which would be a close parallel to the practice long universal in many bucolic regions, where a slurred Mis’ does duty for Miss and Mrs. alike.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/magazine/25FOB-onlanguage-t.html

[bowens43]

3. We're not going to have to worry about that.

[bvf]

5. +1. n/t

[Art_from_Ark]

6. As long as "Mr. President" refers to Bernie

[riversedge]

13. Perhaps you will. Best to be prepared.

[DCBob]

7. Regardless its going to be "Madam President".

The precedent has already been set by the use of Madam Secretary.

[FarPoint]

11. That was my reference point as well.

I do like the sound of Madam President... I just do.

[Gregorian]

8. I just want the New Deal back. I want health care. I want a bigger safety net. Fewer invasions.

Call her what you want.

[Basic LA]

17. Exactly the right priorities.

Even Mrs. President is fine.

[artislife]

20. Also ran. nt

[leveymg]

9. Prime Minister

[riversedge]

10. This is the US. Please stay on topic.

[leveymg]

14. Are you teaching a Second Grade class? Why the constant "stay on topic" admonishments?

You do it a lot, here.

It's insulting and condescending. You clearly don't deal well with on-line dialogue and have a deaf ear for irony. If you want to be a more successful propagandist, you need to respect the audience and the norms of the media.

[Tanuki]

12. Did you think that she and Madeleine Albright should have been addressed as "Ms. Secretary"

when each was Secretary of State? Albright, as you may know, titled her autobiography "Madam Secretary."
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I would personally prefer something more gender-neutral, along the lines of Comrade, but in the meantime Madam is fine with me.

[Luminous Animal]

18. Absolutely. Kerry is Mr. Secretary not Sir Kerry. The use of Madam is a throwback to a more sexist

era. When a gender neutral word is not available (such as chairperson), then an equivalent should be used.

[msanthrope]

16. Madam Justice, the Notorious R.B.G. just shakes her head.....

This thread reminds me of the one where you told us we weren't allowed to call Glenn Greenwald GG.

[Autumn]

19. Call her whatever you want

just don't call her President.