Hillary Was Right: Trump Rant On Muslims Shows Up On New Terror Recruitment Video

[Skidmore]

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/01/hillary-was-right-trump-rant-on-muslims-shows-up-on-new-terror-recruitment-video/

After Hillary Clinton made the argument that Donald Trump’s hateful rants against Muslims were fueling Islamic terrorism recruitment during a recent debate, Republicans and the Fox News crowd last their minds accusing her of lying. “Where were these videos?” They demanded. A reporter just found one.

While ISIS’s campaign of terror in the Middle East gets most of the headlines, an equally horrific group is operating out of Africa. Al-Shabab, linked to al-Qaeda, has been responsible for a number of massacres, terror attacks, and other human rights atrocities, primarily in Somalia and Kenya. Recently, the group’s numbers and influence has dwindled after sustained opposition from a coalition of African governments. They are clearly desperate — so they are reportedly turning to the powerful recruitment tool known as Donald Trump.

Harun Maruf, a journalist working with Voice of America, has been closely following Al-Shabab and its recruitment strategies. On January 1, he came across a new video that features — you guessed it — Trump’s recent call for a “total Muslim ban.”

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[peacebird]

1. And Bernie Sanders was right that voting FOR the Iraq War Resolution would have bad consequences

Which it DID.

He was smart enough, & principled enough to take the hard vote of No. Hillary took the easy Yes.

End result of Iraq war? ISIS.

Thanks Hillary, for helping GWB get his war on.

[upaloopa]

3. March 2016 the month Hillary dominates

the delegate count

Madam President

[Ned_Devine]

11. So, that makes the Iraq war vote ok?

Very substantive response.

[Laser102]

24. I feel very bad for Bernie supporters.

[BlueCaliDem]

62. So do I!

[reACTIONary]

38. Hillary's vote on the war resolution....

..... and her subsiquent characterization if it as a mistake are net positives for her. It shows she can and will make tough calls regarding national security, that in the face of uncertainty she is willing to err on the side of security, and that she is willing and capable of reassessing and adjusting to a situation as it unfolds.

These are the qualities many of us want in a commander in cheif.

[stevenleser]

14. And threadjacking is never OK. nt

[peacebird]

22. Oopsie! My mistake, I actually mentioned facts that show Hilllary in a bad light...

my bad.... NOT.

[stevenleser]

26. Nope, you threadjacked. If you want to slime Hillary, start a new OP like the rest. nt

[99Forever]

35. You aren't the boss of anyone.

You don't like what someone says, put them on Ignore.

[Live and Learn]

45. Since when?

[stevenleser]

48. Since long before DU, from the very beginnings of internet discussions. Its a form of trolling

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Threadjack - " A form of amusement for trolls"

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/threadjacking - "Threadjacking is a deliberate attempt at steering a discussion away from the original topic by bringing up another, usually more provoking and completely unrelated, topic. Depending on the context, threadjacking can be used as a timely diversion in the event of awkward discussions or, more commonly, as a form of cheap amusement through trolling."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/25/1454154/-Threadjacking-101 - "It’s a form of trolling."

-----------------------------------------------

"A person who threadjacks" is one of the very first definitions of an internet troll from the time the term internet troll was first coined.

So again, the answer is, since the internet has existed, threadjacking has not been OK and has been a clear indication that someone is being a troll.

[Live and Learn]

49. ROFL You are hilarious. But you know what is against TOS? Calling people trolls.

and you are right on the line.

[stevenleser]

50. Nope. Wrong part of speech.

Describing a persons writing/arguments in any way has never been a problem on DU. Attacks on people themselves are the problem.

If your post exhibits trolling behavior, saying so is more than within the TOS. Calling someone's contention stupid has always been OK. Calling someone a troll or calling them stupid is different.

There is nothing hilarious about it if you actually understand the parts of speech.

[Live and Learn]

51. Walking the line, I see. Don't fall off. nt

[stevenleser]

52. Nope, not walking the line. A necessary part of DU to be able to criticize writing vs the person.

If you have trouble understanding this, DU may not be the place for you.

[Live and Learn]

53. Keep walking. Don't look down. nt

[stevenleser]

54. Dont worry, you will probably get it eventually. In the meantime I advise caution in your posting.

If you dont understand the difference between attacking positions vs people, you are likely to get a lot of hides and maybe even PPRd.

[Live and Learn]

55. I'll take your advice since you obviously have a lot more experience than I do in that regard.

[stevenleser]

56. Yes, I have a lot of experience addressing my comments to positions and not people.

Very kind of you to notice!

[Live and Learn]

57. I certainly haven't noticed that but if you say so. nt

[stevenleser]

58. Nope, you indicated above you wouldn't understand/be able to tell either way. nt

[Live and Learn]

60. Don't you think that is a personal attack? nt

[stevenleser]

81. Nope, it's what you wrote. nt

[Live and Learn]

82. Long time, no hear from. What were we talking about? nt

[Live and Learn]

44. +10,000 nt

[Live and Learn]

46. Yep, Hillary is right about Trump and Bernie was right about Hillary. nt

[oasis]

67. Prominent Democrats are right about Hillary too. That's why

she's loaded with Super Delegates from coast to coast. But then, you knew that.

[Live and Learn]

68. And Bernie has the people. But you knew that. nt

[oasis]

70. "has the people". Interesting. Are they aware they're being "had"?

[Cali_Democrat]

2. Remember this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251936615

Or this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251938809

[Thinkingabout]

4. We knew where the video of Trump was going to show up and

It is evidence now. Trump needs to apologize to Hillary for calling her a liar, it is Trumps lies.

[TeamPooka]

20. hahaha. That's a good one. Trump doesn't apologize. He's a dick. nt

[Skidmore]

21. As are most of his supporters.

You don't stand in a crowd and cheer the things he says or call on people to be harrassed or beaten if you don't agree with him. I find it appalling that he has held out this long without much much pushback. We don't need him and the world doesn't either.

[CorporatistNation]

27. Funny, It Did Not Show Up Last Week When All of The MEDIA Was Looking For IT!

Just kinda curious that it shows up a week later hmmm?

[nc4bo]

28. I keep thinking

Be careful what you wish for.

Has anyone brought up that Bush, Pres. Obama and The Big Dog were also part of an ISIS video last month along with some of the sleaziest MIC loving corporations because I had no idea.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3369457/Donald-Trump-isn-t-ISIS-recruitment-videos-fornicator-Bill-Clinton-is.html

I figure it's just a matter of time before Hillary herself is starring in one.

[Thinkingabout]

33. The report stated "evidence", now the evidence has been produced,

What is the problem?

[leftofcool]

80. Must be hard for you to take.

[calimary]

32. I'd guess it's far more than just one video.

Trump has generated loads of footage on the anti-Muslim theme alone. He's all over TV and he's generating libraries full of material for ISIS and other adversaries to use. LOADS of it. Clip after clip after clip, soundbite after soundbite after soundbite, and if you missed it, it'll repeat at the top of the next hour. ISIS is quite media-savvy. They'd have to be living around the clock with blinders on and earplugs in, and inside a capsule about 10,000 feet underwater NOT to see all the media attention Trump gets, or how often his offensive comments are replayed. No one can convince me there isn't a boatload of Trump video they're exploiting out there to recruit new ISIS followers and suicide bombers and other assorted terrorist wannabes. ISIS is a shrewd lot.

[Starry Messenger]

5. k&r

[msrizzo]

6. Not surprising

But I'm sure it will be involved by the Trumpified media.

[Sancho]

7. Trump will self destruct: he's fired!!

[Gothmog]

8. Trump is helping ISIS recruit

[pnwmom]

9. Of course she was right. And this probably isn't the first. Just the first we found.

[SCantiGOP]

10. Thanks for posting this

And, notice how everyone is now just ignoring the constant negative rabble-rousers who show up on every thread?
They fizzled out after the first 2 inane posts.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. Trump supporters will claim Hillary gave them the idea.

[LiberalArkie]

13. Which she may have, but sooner of later someone at Daesh would have thought of it anyway.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

18. Kinda like how the Right used Ahmadinejad as a poster boy for Iran...

So, in a way, Trump is like Ahmadinejad.

Except Ahmadinejad never actually said what they claimed and Trump does.

[nc4bo]

15. So now we have Obama, Bush, the lessor, Bill Clinton, Biden, Kerry and now Trumpy

starring in (or given cameo appearances) ISIS terror videos.

Oh let's also give a special mention to these fabulous corporations: CITIgroup, GE, Halliburton, The Carlyle Group, ExxonMobile, Shell, AEGIS, Merrill Lynch and a few other choice entites.

Now what?!

[mcar]

16. Not a surprise

Shame on the MSM.

[mcar]

17. Not a surprise

Shame on the MSM.

[bigtree]

19. k&r

[Cha]

23. Yes, of course, Hillary was right.. who the hell wouldn't think she was right?! Stupid trump and

his even more stupid followers?

Thank you, Skidmore!

[BlueCaliDem]

61. Not only his stupid followrs, Cha. eom

[Cha]

63. ..

I figured when I wrote that, BlueCali.

[BlueCaliDem]

64. I know. It just felt good to post it.

[quickesst]

29. The Hillary hatred in this thread...

.... is so strong it's almost as though trump is on the verge of getting a little love. Yep, it's that strong.

[MrWendel]

30. This...

I've seen the "For once I agree with Trump" quip on here before. I think they hate Hillary more than Trump.

[quickesst]

34. You have heard the constant chant....

,,," I will not accept the lesser of two evils." If some did decide they would make that choice, and it ends up being Clinton vs Trump, I think they would be hard pressed to decide exactly who they believe to be the lesser.

[Skidmore]

36. Nothing like hyperbole and

false equivalencies.

[quickesst]

37. Posts like this one you replied to...

... are the result of poor projection and bad taste on the part of some, but not all people.

[uponit7771]

42. This isn't too far away from a truth

[zappaman]

31. So obviously Hillary works for ISIS!

[stevenleser]

59. Don't give some folks any ideas.

[silenttigersong]

39. Okay consider this as well

[link:http:// http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/30/who-is-the-arch-racist-hillary-or-the-donald/|

[Skidmore]

41. If you are comfortable with Donald Trump and his stated positions now, then

by all means, give him your support and vote. Just don't parade his current rhetoric and stated agenda in here along with the racists who support it under the guise of supporting your candidate, who is theorically a Democrat. I take Trump and his followers at their word. They have no use for anyone who isn't Caucasian and preferably male. I don't trust him or them and I certainly will not seek to excuse his current words and actions based on something he said years ago. People can devolve as well, and he has done a stellar job of doing so.

[MoonRiver]

40. Just imagine how this video could be used by her in the general!

That is IF tRump gets the Puke nom.

[Live and Learn]

47. Well, since she played a big part in the creation of ISIS, I am not sure it will play well. nt

[MoonRiver]

71. Absurd

[Live and Learn]

72. Yes, her role was absurd. nt

[MoonRiver]

73. And exactly what role was that?

[Live and Learn]

74. IWR vote, regime change, etc. nt

[MoonRiver]

75. So every Senator in Congress, who voted for the IWR vote

is complicit in the creation of ISIS. Is that your view? One of those Senators was John Kerry who DU supported for president in 2005. I assume he is also a founding father of ISIS, according to your logic. Correct?

[Live and Learn]

76. Yep. nt

[oasis]

65. She should be hitting him hard on this now.

Hillary should go into rapid response mode.

[Luminous Animal]

43. Hiilary better be prepared to explain why they use her husband in recruitment videos...

This fact is already all over right wing blogs and mentions. ISIS refers to Bill as a fornicator.

[MoonRiver]

77. They think we're all fornicators if we've had sex with anyone but a spouse.

Somehow I doubt the American electorate will be influenced by what ISIS thinks.

[Luminous Animal]

78. My point is, the right will go after her and ask her to explain Bill being used in an

ISIS recruitment video.

[MoonRiver]

79. I doubt she will talk with ISIS!

[jfern]

66. Was it made after Hillary said there was such a video?

[oasis]

69. Certain DUers can join Trump for dinner. There's crow enough for all.