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Related: About this forumA Day Before He Gives It, Hillary Camp Tries To HI-JACK Bernie’s Wall Street Speech

As many of you probably know, Bernie Sanders is set to speak tomorrow in New York City regarding how he will rein in Wall Street and bring reform to the financial industry. That being a major platform of his campaign, and a reformed financial industry being something a great many people very much want to see, it hardly needs to be said that this speech will be a big one for Bernie.
So the Clinton campaign released a statement today saying Bernie should just listen to her....
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-04/clinton-campaign-prebuts-sanders-wall-street-speech
To which Sanders communications director Micheal Briggs responded:
Indeed Micheal, and even aside from that fairly obvious pot-meeting-kettle this seems an odd tactic to me. They probably arent going to fool very many people with this particular turn strength into weakness ploy. What I think they will do, did do, is give the Bernie camp most of a day to do some editing.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/05/1466095/-A-Day-Before-He-Gives-It-Hillary-Camp-Rips-Bernie-s-Wall-Street-Speech
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WillyT
(72,631 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Why bother with the peasant known as Bernie Sanders?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)about what Hillary Clinton has to say about Wall Street reform.
She takes their campaign bribes, has done nothing to stop the abuses of these behemoth banks, had never been an outspoken champion for reform like Elizabeth Warren is, and she refuses to reinstate Glass Stegall.
Yes, we get it Hillary. Bernie is giving a big speech tomorrow and you don't want to be left out of the party. But you have no credibility on this issue.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)You guys love to take the crumbs that Elizabeth Warren gives Hillary and twist them into giant three-tiered cakes with fondant flowers.
Is there anything in the Clinton campaign that is not puffed up, exaggerated, lied about or twisted?
Warren's comment, Secretary Clinton is right to fight back against Republicans trying to sneak Wall Street giveaways into the must-pass government funding bill is hardly an endorsement of Hillary's "Wall Street plan."
The comment was polite and positive. Nothing more.
Warren was called for a quote--put on the spot, for sure. What was she supposed to do?
This is the kind of underhanded bullshit that the Clinton camp pulls. Call Warren for a quote, and then extrapolate that as Warren's glowing endorsement for all things Hillary.
Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are as far apart as two politicians can be on Wall Street reform. You aren't fooling anyone.
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)it is clear that she cares what Hillary's plan for Wall Street reform is. The issues are all-important to Elizabeth.
So there is a "someone" who cares very much what Hillary has to say about Wall Street reform, despite what you said. Actually, many millions of someones, but she's among the most prominent.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)would be like trusting republicans with energy reform when they have taken millions from Koch brothers.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Social media is having a hearty laugh about it, too.
No one trusts her on this issue except her most ardent supporters.
Political Expert @keeponpolling 9h9 hours ago
what a farce. She is banking (heh) on tricking people into thinking she's something she's not
@keeponpolling and she's only opening herself up to attacks from Bernie on her positions on Wall Street.
@HillaryClinton How about you endorse Bernie's Wall Street reform plan of actually making the banks pay for hurting us in 2008
As @BernieSanders takes on Wall Street tomorrow, know that one of Goldman Sachs's worst is giving big to Hillary
:largeSegami
(14,923 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)They're charged with building narratives.
Whether something is true or false (or flat out ridiculous) is not on their radar.
Narratives must be constructed. And repeated.
The problem is that no one is buying their snake oil. This "Hillary is the darling of Wall Street reform" is about as laughable as it gets.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)My ears are bleeding already.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)..she would promise to stop all the phony laughing.
Every time she does that fake laugh it is like nails on a blackboard for me.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)troubles me. I am very aural -- not very visual, but I hear really well.
pa28
(6,145 posts)Hillary's campaign argues we can only do one thing or the other.
They say what we can't do is restore Glass-Steagall. The same staffers telling us that particular story are the same ones who will be making policy a year from now if she becomes President.
Eric J in MN
(35,639 posts)During the debates, both Clinton and Sanders usually presented their Wall Street plans as mutually exclusive. They're not.
I wish Bernie Sanders would say that he'd sign Clinton's plan and that he'd also sign a restoration of Glass-Steagall.
Broward
(1,976 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I thought...WTF? She's gonna try and hijack his message...AGAIN!
She gives me a pain.
(and after Willie hit the trail for her...I've been reading various comments across numerous website...man oh man...people do not like him as much as the propaganda wants us to believe...the old feelings about old "stuff" are being brought up and people are tired of the Clinton antics.)
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Everyone knows that Clinton's "concern" about Wall Street is nothing more than bullshit and lies during a tough primary campaign.
In her years of public service she has played the Wall Street game. She takes their money. They like her. Her top-ten campaign contributors include Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan and Citibank.
Bernie has been on record as never taking Wall Street campaign bribes and he's been outspoken for years on breaking up the big banks and reinstating Glass Steagall.
Hillary has never fought for Wall Street reform. She's sat on the sidelines while Elizabeth Warren has been very publicly fighting for the American people on this issue.
Bernie is setting the agenda for the entire Democratic primary. All Hillary can do is offer up feeble, hypocritical, "Oh me too! Me too!" nonsense that is laughable.
No one believes that you want Wall Street reform Hillary.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'd bet on that if I was a betting man.
Trust her?
About as far as I can throw her
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Giving Team Bernie a chance to make some tweaks to his speech, if they were indeed needed.
Stupid stupid tactic by team weathervane, if you ask me.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Hillary is just a LITTLE TOO motivated for my blue blood.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)The media is totally focused on the Big Dog, and talking about all of the calamity he will bring with him!
Yikes!
Indepatriot
(1,253 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 5, 2016, 03:39 AM - Edit history (1)
thx Autumn...
Scuba
(53,475 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)Muy bien.
nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)That taunt from Hillary was just the start of the obfuscation. Now here comes the BIG announcement regarding President Obama's intention to implement gun control measures through executive orders is scheduled to take place Tuesday. What a coincidence.... The talking heads have already started headlining the announcement this evening. Recently, it was said he would make the announcement soon. "Soon" then became "in the coming days." Now we learn it is the same day of Bernie's big speech.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-announce-executive-actions-gun-control-tuesday/story?id=36070572
Looks like it is shaping up to be a BIG NEWS day. Bill Clinton started campaigning in New Hampshire for Hillary this week. Of course, that HAS to be covered.
And other things could erupt -- just a few hours ago we learned the FBI started working with the local sheriff in Oregon handling the militia's takeover of the wildlife preserve. Got to cover that of course.
Stocks tumbled on Wall Street today so that as well must be covered.
Yep, it is certainly looking like a BIG NEWS day tomorrow. Dollars to doughnuts Bernie will not get the coverage he deserves, and naturally no one will cover it Wednesday because it will be stale news by then....
I feel pretty confident in saying President Obama prefers Hillary over Bernie for several obvious reasons, not the least of which is Obama's determination to keep pushing for the TPP. If Sanders were to prevail, obviously that would have a negative backlash on that "trade bill." So take a wild guess which issues the networks will cover extensively.
No disrespect intended toward President Obama. This is just politics and part of the way the game is played.
Sam
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)They won't cover it anyway.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)the simple response will be "It was a BIG news day with more important stories. There just was no time."
Sam
Nyan
(1,192 posts)and the coverage next week was all about how Bernie can't connect with minorities.
Because there was a BIG news about two activists storming his stage.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)ucrdem
(15,720 posts)Bernie has a plan . . . okay
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Now we're at the fighting phase.
Someone is scared she will lose again.
First they ignore you, then they insult you, then they fight you, then you win! - Gandhi
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)a President would say. Bernie's team went with something a Fox News pundit would say about a Democrat.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)poor hillary ain't going to get there again. I haz a
The hell I do
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)democrank
(12,596 posts)Go Bernie!
riversedge
(80,802 posts)approach-which her proposal is!! Perhaps Sanders will add to his proposal--it would be the wise thing to do. We will see today.
liberal N proud
(61,194 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)I heard her say that my own self
retrowire
(10,345 posts)to try and upstage someone.
I'd call it crass and rude, and not really a quality that I'd want in a president. We need leaders, not political strategists.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)reining in Wall Street. Reigning in Wall Street is more like it when it comes to her highness.
madokie
(51,076 posts)My sides are beginning to hurt from laughing so much
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This is what our candidates should constantly be doing to one and other. Also happy Clinton is helping Sanders to get a little air time.
TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)Sanders is an honorable statesperson and does not need to resort to these dirty tactics.
But, Clinton? Obvious dirty politics. No honor. No respect. No geta my vote...
arikara
(5,562 posts)"cut it out!!!1!
because you know... 9-11.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)...what Bristol Palin is to chastity.
I'm glad I'm at the end of this OP as I'm not sure I can take it much longer
must go read about yah'qeada some to bring me back down to the ground
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,316 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)That statement is not only arrogant, it assumes people are ignorant.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Every day more and more disgusting.