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Liberal group demands DNC chairwoman resignBy Jonathan Easley - TheHill
January 07, 2016, 10:29 am

Anne Wernikoff
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The liberal group CREDO Action is demanding Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz resign a day after the Florida representative accused millennials of complacency on abortion rights.
In a petition sent to the 3.9 million progressive activists the group claims as members, CREDO cited Schultzs comments on abortion, which infuriated many liberals, as well as a litany of other offenses in calling for her to be removed.
CREDO also accused Schultz of rigging the primary process to suppress Democratic turnout, of supporting warmongers by trying to undermine the presidents Iran deal, and of courting special interest groups at odds with liberal values.
As DNC chair, you have repeatedly failed to act in the best interests of progressives and the Democratic Party, the petition reads. You have lost the trust of grassroots progressives and Democrats. Please resign immediately.
On Wednesday, Schultz said in an interview with The New York Times Magazine that women in their 20s and 30s are not committed to fighting for abortion right because their entire lives have been lived after Roe v. Wade was decided.
Many abortion rights activists took exception to the comments.
But the flap was just the latest controversy in what has been a tough cycle for the DNC chairwoman.
Schultz has been under fire for the Democratic presidential debate schedule, which has been pared back significantly, with many debates taking place on the weekend or near holidays.
Democratic presidential contenders Bernie Sanders and Martin OMalley have accused the DNC of seeking to bury the debates to protect Hillary Clinton from scrutiny in order to facilitate a coronation for the Democratic front-runner.
Democrats have fumed over the missed opportunity to get their message out.
The notion that Schultz and the DNC are in the tank for Clinton boiled over amid her handling of revelations that a Sanders staffer had been fired for inappropriately accessing Clinton voter files housed on a central party server.
The DNC brought the hammer down on the Sanders campaign, resulting in a court battle between the two that still has not been resolved.
Furthermore, the DNCs fundraising has been under scrutiny. The Republican National Committee has massively outraised the DNC this cycle and sits in a far better financial position...
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Link: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/other-races/265044-liberal-group-demands-dnc-chair-resign
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And the least democratic in history. Yeah, she needs to go.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Can you name one more corrupt in the last 50 years? Can you name on less democratic in history?
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Just a total asshole
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)and you have Jesse Jackson Junior he just got out of prison not too long ago
The guy in New York who was I think Democratic House speaker
Those three come to mind right off the bat
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Please address all the issues brought up in this OP and why they are wrong, or you might just want to back off your hyperbolic bullshit.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)Not even close
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Hands down the most corrupt.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)from people for DWS! I live in Florida and I'm gonna bet she'll not win her election again! I DON'T have any real inside info, but unless she's able to "rig" the votes I have heard very few people who support her. She seems to have "cooked her goose" and it's not going well. Even IF she's not OUSTED as the head of the DNC, her face may not grace too many prominent mags or newspapers!
GOOD RIDDANCE! Keep digging Bernie & O'Malley... KEEP DIGGIN!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)for the Dem party: She needs to stay
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)has she helped elect so many Republicans?
Just what has she done for the Democratic Party since she's been in charge of the DNC?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)a Sanders political attack!
DWS is not charged with getting Dem's elected: Dem's
have to get themselves elected.
DWS among other things: is help make sure Dem's
are able to be on ballots with all the obstacles every
state has for compliance
The people who are attacking DWS are attacking for poor elections:
they are attacking because the Sanders is losing and they
want her to blame.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)" your comments just
a Sanders political attack! "
Take that, blimey !!!. I guess he told you.
BTW, your username is really long, Takes a long time to type.. I forgot to copy and paste.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Gore1FL
(22,959 posts)2014?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)You're not making much sense.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)The Sanders people are acting like the GOP when
they are losing; they pull out side attacks for their
failures
Get of DWS back and go work for Sanders: that
might be worthy of your passion for Sanders.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Again, Sanders has nothing to do with bullfighting. That's a smear.

And I hate the fuckin' Eagles man.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)For whom she was campaign chairperson. She is obviously bucking for a cabinet position, and she does not believe in democratically run primaries, etc. She should have immediately been fired when she gleefully violated the DNCs contract with the Sanders campaign.
Gender is irrelevant in this case.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)just Sander supporter.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)
talents.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Starting BEFORE Sanders even announced.
Please explain her breaking the DNCs legally binding contract with the Sanders campaign, if you dare.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)What does that mean...stinky combined with wrong?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)jonno99
(2,620 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)She needs to be gone 5 years ago.
Make that 10.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)He is losing: and wants to blame the refs:
his campaign broke in the Dem headquarters computers:
DWS need to stay strong against the Sanders bullies
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Here it is..
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Anything else would simply be foolish.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)DINO-Debbie is a corrupt and biased discredit to the party, she is likely to lose 2016 in 2014 style, and she needs to go already.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You don't have to wait much longer. I'm hoping Clinton puts O'Malley up for the job. I don't think some fully understand how massive and important of a position it is. O'Malley has the depth to take it on.
Once again, you don't have to wait long.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)What could possibly be gained, or avoided, by leaving her at this post - which she is demonstrably unqualified to hold?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And that is her mission. Once that is accomplished they don't care much.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts):wave:
angrychair
(12,354 posts)He sold Maryland out to the gambling industry and helped put more coin in the pocket of people like Adelson.
To be clear, without his involvement gambling in Maryland would not have happened.
Education spending has not increased due to gambling revenues, general fund state spending has gone down as education funding from gambling has gone up. Therefore nothing extra is being spent toward education than before gambling was legal. Spending for state social services related to gambling-connected issues has gone up.
http://marylandreporter.com/2014/08/05/despite-campaign-promises-casinos-not-schools-are-big-winners-from-gaming-profits/
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Duckfan
(1,268 posts)More aggressive in fundraising and addressing issues.
And now that I think about it Van Jones would be an even better pick. The dude takes no crap from anyone.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)lewebley3
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is just not making it with Dem's
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)I heard Debs isn't shy about doting on some Republicans.
One could say, in that regard, she's a winner.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)You must think we know Mr. Ed.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I've disliked DWS since, well, forever. Especially when she worked hard for her Republican friends in Florida while being totally disdainful toward a hopeful Democrat when he ran against one of her friends.
The OP headline is BAD. Then again, it's The Hill - not exactly a Democratic-friendly "news"paper.
Esquire, however, had a far better article, citing DEMOCRATS instead of "Liberal Groups".
Democratic operatives are starting to make noise about Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's questionable leadership.
By Charles P. Pierce, Sep 14, 2015
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a37912/the-democratic-revolt-against-the-dnc-chair-begins/
The blog generally stays away from the Dems In Disarray narratives because, too often in the past, these have been used to obscure the fact that the Republicans are running an incredible passel of public omadhauns for president. However, the blog also has been quite clear in its desire that Democratic national chairperson Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-CNN) be removed from her current position because the evidence that she's done much of anything in the post is not exactly overwhelming. This feeling, it appears, is becoming somewhat general.
Deb Kozikowski, vice chairwoman of the Massachusetts Democratic Party, said the chief of the Democratic National Committee, US Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, had done a disservice to grass-roots volunteers by allowing Republicans to dominate the airwaves for the last month. "How do I tell these really dedicated Democrats who work really hard from top to bottom that debates for our presidential candidates are restricted, and they're there watching all these Republicans get all this air time?" she said. "I think about the folks at the grass roots who work day in day out, no money no glory, because they believe in democracy with a small 'd' and the Democratic Party with a large 'D,' getting bombarded with all these Republican candidates."
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It doesn't use verbiage used by the right in an attempt to cause dissention among anything other than DWS. The headline of the article in the op is a tried and true method by the right that causes infighting within the left.
I really do think the simple fact is that Clinton will be placing a new person after this elections cycle. I'm not going to trash DWS but she is not the person for this specific job. In any way.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)after this election cycle. Given their past history, I assume Hillary will simply confirm her in her post.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)IMHO.
Still, DWS has not been a very good Democratic leader for the DNC. We lost hundreds of seats because of her poor leadership in the DNC. She has a track-record of helping her Republican friends, Reps Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen in Florida, instead of Democrats who have run against them. http://www.democracyforamerica.com/blog/453-debbie-wasserman-schultz-forgets-who-her-friends-are
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)
to give Sanders extra chances, he is a grown man
with 30million, if he is cannot run winning campaign
its not DWS fault.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Second, I assess a Democrat's work by the good work they've done for the Party and for the people. I don't believe DWS has anything to crow about.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)... full of shit? Just asking.
--imm
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Sanders people are becoming sore losers
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)Not the dems who really desire serious change in the government.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)bullsnarfle
(254 posts)DWS has been a disaster for this state. It is run lock-stock-and-barrel by the damn Repubs, thanks in great part to her.
And that has NOTHING to do with Bernie Sanders, pal.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)The GOP has been a disaster: like the Governor
radiclib
(1,811 posts)..which is exactly where we're headed with DWS at the helm. Typical Dem strategy.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)TSIAS
(14,689 posts)Anyone who thinks she could be elected Senator or Governor of FL is terribly mistaken.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)it will appear as if Sanders supporters or trying to gain an edge and Liberals are just whining again. I believe that was the goal of The Hill's piece.
I don't know why you'd support this. It doesn't make Liberals and Sanders supporters look good in the eyes of the majority.
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nc4bo
(17,651 posts)So why don't we do a recall vote of some kind demanding she get her ass out now?
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... seats and she still has her job. Any questions?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)er, Debbie
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)RandySF
(85,026 posts)It's a cellular company based here in SF. They use their politics to draw customers.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Where's your Hillary "brush-off" gif?
RandySF
(85,026 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I really appreciated their positions on the key liberal issues. I had to switch companies when I upgraded my phone recently, but I still believe in their mission.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)They've been adding more Samsung and other phones recently to provide greater depth in selection. As long as you live in area with reasonable Sprint service, you should be OK. Perhaps if you have Sprint already (since they sit on top of Sprint's network), you may be able to use your existing phone with them. Check with them to see.
Perhaps as a way to back up their survey, if a lot of people subscribed now, it would send a message that this petition they sent is something that many progressives out there support to have happen.
If you are going to fire her, the time is NOW! Before she can do any more damage to this primary process for both presidential and other national congressional offices that she's heading towards messing up in the interest of pushing her candidate to win the primary at the cost of lowering the overall visibility and support of the Democratic Party. That in my book is inexcusable and shouldn't be allowed to happen. Especially with her history of being friends with Republicans as many other corporatist "Democrats" are that probably don't really care whether a candidate is a Democrat or a Republican who wins, with the important factor being that they are beholden to corporatist interests. And progressives are saying a big FU to corporate interests staying in control and pushing aside progressive voices. No more Rahm Emanuels and DWS entities in leadership please. They just screw us all!
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)and I approve of what they do.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)They rep no one: they just trying get attention:
Sanders people are just whinning
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Horses asses sometimes, maybe.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)You really are making this too easy. I mean, you just never give up. Even when you are doubling down on stupid, like saying Bernie is losing and that is why we hate Debbie Downer. I hate to tell you this, but I hated Debbie Downer before this campaign season even started. As did a lot of other dems.
But I'll quit teasing you now, because I think your sense of humor has worn out.
ananda
(35,283 posts)Hey hey, enough, we know! DWS has got to go! Please sign.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Response to Punkingal (Reply #13)
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MisterP
(23,730 posts)because it's us, and us is perfect
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Because HRC ain't getting elected.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Why, in just last year's election, Democrats experienced a
Net loss of 10 state legislative chambers
Net loss of 3 governorships
Net loss of 13 House seats
Net loss of 9 Senate seats
Super freaking fantastic job!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Dem know there is no money, they have to stand
on their own feet to win; that is why Hillary with other
Dem's have to raise money for years (that Sanders people have
nothing but contempt's for): They don't get
GOP checks.
Russ Fine gold: has gotten himself elected by himself,
and like most candidates that is the way he likes it,(He's a fighter).
His GOP opponent will fund his campaign with his
personal corporate money: from the insurance
company he owns. (taken from is low paid employees).
The DNC among many functions is the only apparatus that is available to
the American people to any choice at all as to who they can vote for:
All other Parties except the GOP party have failed:
that is why Sanders only choice is the Dem's.
Their is no other party that would help him on the
ballet with the connection DNC has with
state Democratic parties. (or willing to him let use DNC's little money since he
has not been a Dem but socialist) Sander supporters are ingrates to the
long good and bad history of the DNC
DWS is doing just fine
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)Oh wait, don't tell me, she's doing a good job. Yeah for your Queen. So you're OK with rigging to win, what a fucking patriot.
Duckfan
(1,268 posts)I think you know better than that. DWS cost this party dearly 2 years ago. She is not a privileged person in any way and should be treated accordingly if she fails in her position. She should be fired. End of discussion.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)She simply can't wait to start rounding up dangerous terminally ill marijuana users.

SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Right Leaning /Conservative Democrats Want Her to Stay.
...my take.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)If HRC wins in November, DWS will get a cabinet post.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... is overwhelming. I cannot fathom how any honest person can continue to support her chairmanship.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Took them long enough.
Uncle Joe
(65,258 posts)Thanks for the thread, WillyT.
msongs
(73,874 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)She'll ignore it. She's not going anywhere. She's being paid well to get HRH elected.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
MADem
(135,425 posts)mountain grammy
(29,082 posts)I think she's a disaster
onenote
(46,184 posts)I liked what Working Assets (CREDO's predecessor) was trying to do.
I even liked the fact that CREDO has established (gasp!) a SuperPAC. But I'm dubious of their claims regarding "membership". CREDO's SuperPAC set as its goal in 2014 to flip two Senate seats from R to D (GA and KY) and to maintain the Democrats hold on three other seats (MI, CO, and NC). The results -- not so great: the two R seats stayed R and two of the three D seats flipped to R. Obviously, this isn't CREDO's fault, but it also suggests that they don't have a lot of clout when it comes to election outcomes and without clout, they aren't going to be able to have much impact.
I do think DWS will step down as DNC chair, but not until after the election.
CharlotteVale
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(2,717 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)AZ Progressive
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Duckfan
(1,268 posts)Jim Dean would also be a good choice IMO. But I'm open to any progressive who gives a damn instead of someone who is only interested in lining their own pocket.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Duppers
(28,469 posts)genwah
(574 posts)@DWSTweets as #DNC @TheDemocrats Chair
http://www.lookatthisnow.com/uploads/8/9/4/8/8948721/we_the_people_demand_the_immediate_removal_of_debbie_wasserman_schultz_from_her_post_as_chairman_of_the_dnc.pdf
http://petitions.moveon.org/s/bPpyvB @moveon
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-debbie-wasserman-schulz-effective-immediately-chairwoman-dnc-democratic-national-committee
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)liskddksil
(2,753 posts)"Too often elected officials represent special interests not the people. Let's take back our country and restore democracy."
http://timcanova.com/
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/timcanova2016
...suppressing Democratic turnout... They're right about that.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)And sold us out to conservatives long ago.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DNC chairperson. The chairperson is not going to respond to the petition, it is like another online poll, the results goes unnoticed by many.