2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew Hampshire is the only state Sanders will win...
and that's because he is so well known there. That's what the media and DNC was telling us.
Now I live in New Hampshire and Bernie is damn straight going to win here. And it isn't any favorite son thing because as anyone who lives here or in Vermont can tell you our two states don't cotton to each other. Vermont refers to New Hampshire as "the upside down state" (look at a map) and we refer to them as the "People's Republic of Vermont"...The reason he's going to win here is we know both Clinton and Sanders well and have compared the two.
The place other than here where Bernie has done the most to introduce himself is Iowa and now everyone is beginning to realize we are nearly at a toss-up. With media coverage people compare the two and choose Bernie. And you can expect the pattern to both continue and increase each and every time he wins a state or EVEN MAKES IT CLOSE.
For nine months inevitability was shoved down the throats of American Democrats and a bunch of them have had a belly full. If the campaign can demonstrate that Sanders can win both some primaries and the general it's going to be game over. It will quickly become clear that the media and the DNC colluded to reduce Sanders exposure and that will motivate another percentage of Democrats who hate a thumb on the scale.
It ain't 2008 and Sanders is not Obama-he's the new face of the Democratic party or their last chance thrown away. I know how I'm voting.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Although I don't know why. Scared of doing better in the general? Worried about changing the direction of this nation?
Ino
(3,366 posts)That's the problem with these switcheroo, change-up, now-that-I-got-your-attention OP headlines.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)So, no, it seems the next posters also did not read anything past the headline, which goes to show what we are dealing with.
Bernie is nobody: That's what the media and DNC was telling us.
They will be eating those words, the media will, and it looks like about 10% of DUers, too,
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I will GUARANTEE that Bernie Sanders will win Vermont on March 1, giving him a state besides New Hampshire.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Republicans could run a pile of dog shit and the shit will get 191 electoral votes.
It's all about those other 130 electoral votes.
I don't think any Democrat would lose in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. That gives them a base of 247.
Logical
(22,457 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)He's not doing too well in TN.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)But we don't get to vote until June.
As a Californian and a life-long Democrat, I think our state should be among the first primary states. We aren't.
If we end up with Hillary as our candidate, it's just too bad for our country. California, especially my part of Los Angeles, loves Bernie.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Heard it on NPR one early Saturday morning. Kind of surprised me but now I see what he was getting at. Also, I think it will be over long before the Cali primary in June, June 7 to be exact.
Electoral college votes mean fuck all in a primary.
And there's no way in hell Sanders will still be in the race when CA goes to the primary polls.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)That's bad for Hillary Clinton.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)national wide.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... he's a favorite son etc.
SC is the tell, tale... right now he's not doing so good.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)not ever, in the general election.
What happens in the Democratic primary in South Carolina stays in South Carolina. It should not count in determining who the candidate will be for the entire country.
In 2012, the only Southern states Obama took were Virginia and Florida.
The South and the primary results in the South are or at least should be irrelevant to our choice of a presidential candidate.
Alabama and South Carolina will not support either of our candidates in the general election.
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Vincardog
(20,234 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)and Hillary they choose him.
okasha
(11,573 posts)No excuse for those two jurors.
JudyM
(29,225 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...so ignorant/racist. Not often but once in a while.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)You are going to wake up to a repeat of 08
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)or just the title?
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Got interrupted preparing for some surgery in the morning so just did a quick scan and replied...
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Some creative accounting was required to make it a horserace which will no doubt increase viewership at next Sunday's debate, to be broadast on NBC naturally. Anyway a lot will depend on the debate, and if past is prologue it will give Clinton one more bump heading into the Iowa caucus. So I'm not sure about that media collusion either. And while I hope it's over soon I think this primary has been instructive and has helped raise the profile of all 3 Dem candidates.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)After all, he gave one major speech and only had been in the Senate for two years.
Yet, Bernie's been in Congress for the better part of 20 years and was mayor of a Vermont city.
These desperate arguments against him are wearing real thin really fast.
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catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)but read for comprehension-I never said "only"-if you heard that it was the voices in your head. I said we know Bernie and we know Hillary and from all my contacts it's going to be Bernie going away...
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)is why there are horse races...
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)It's not really that complicated.
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)LexVegas
(6,059 posts)RandySF
(58,760 posts)I think he could also win at VT, WI, NE, ND, MN, AK, CO and maybe even OR.