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Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:48 AM Jan 2016

The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie

(with the Most Votes and Widest Margin in Our History)



1. Bernie’s lifelong commitment to standing up to corporate and 1% interests to fight for an economy where everyone has a fair shot.
“His refusal to accept the status quo of the wealthiest Americans using their power to influence politicians matters to me. If we’re going to push back against the rising oligarchy in our country, we need people like Bernie Sanders representing us in government.”

2. He’s standing up for justice for communities facing oppression.

“In a nutshell, he exemplifies the ‘We the People’ style of democracy I believe in. He has stood by and with the people, supporting women, people of color, LGBTQ, seniors, and the poor against those who look to subjugate these historically oppressed groups for profit.”

3. He’ll say no to permanent war.

“He represents integrity. He was also right about Iraq and I prefer his stance on foreign policy. I feel that he is concerned with getting our country on track and not getting us in more wars.”

4. Electability: This election will hinge on turnout, and Bernie is inspiring and mobilizing the communities it’ll take to win.

“I have never been as excited about a candidate as I am about Bernie Sanders. His liberal values match my own values more closely than any other candidate. I respect Bernie Sander’s independence from corporate influence. His focus on social justice and addressing the economic inequality in this country make him the candidate for me.”

5. Putting members in the driver’s seat is what MoveOn does, and a whopping 79 percent voted to endorse Bernie.

“I voted for MoveOn.org to endorse Bernie Sanders for president because he represents the progressive movement like this organization. His views align perfectly with my own — wealth inequality, a living wage, job creation, Wall Street reform, racial justice, women’s and LBGT rights, college without debt, climate change, and peaceful solutions to prevent war, such as his support for the Iran deal.”

https://medium.com/@MoveOn.org/the-top-5-reasons-moveon-members-voted-to-endorse-bernie-with-the-most-votes-and-widest-margin-in-78c2e69990ec#.jofxng5pc



I couldn't get the link to go directly to the page so here is a thread by n2doc with a direct link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128095546

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The Top 5 Reasons MoveOn Members Voted to Endorse Bernie (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jan 2016 OP
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #1
11 enid602 Jan 2016 #2
Actually that would be number 6 and "if" it were the case, does the same not hold true Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #4
Is the implication that Hillary actually won the vote, but multiple voting people ruined it for her? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #5
So just how many times did you vote? nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #6
While you could vote as many times as you wanted, but only the last time you voted counted. -none Jan 2016 #8
voted twice enid602 Jan 2016 #19
Well, aren't you clever. Thankfully, most others don't feel it necessary to try and libdem4life Jan 2016 #27
So why didn't Clinton win it? JackRiddler Jan 2016 #47
Bernie supporter here zalinda Jan 2016 #7
Another lie. They take your name and email address. First and Last name. you're allowed to change in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #9
blam! facts are good. nt retrowire Jan 2016 #14
piece of cake enid602 Jan 2016 #21
Normal people don't cheat in a Move-On election. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #25
intention enid602 Jan 2016 #33
Well that's unfortunate. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #46
not true. mattvermont Jan 2016 #24
I know I voted ONCE Plucketeer Jan 2016 #28
Wait till he sweeps the SC Dem primary, NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #3
I hope you're right! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #10
I live less than 2 miles from NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #11
I heart you! in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #12
that would be so incredibly awesome! Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #18
THAT will be SWEET! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #31
I would add one more randr Jan 2016 #13
The news this morning is good Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #15
Apparently Bernie is now leading Hillary among women and older voters in New Hampshire. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #54
K&R! Thank you Uncle Joe Duval Jan 2016 #16
Just unsubscribed from MoveOn, because I think that promoting one candidate over another Loki Jan 2016 #17
NEA - my teachers union -- did NOT ask us who we wanted Jackilope Jan 2016 #20
Then vote for the GOP, if you're that fed up with the Democrats. You'll love what you get. Loki Jan 2016 #22
If I wanted the GOP, I'd vote for Hillary. senz Jan 2016 #26
and all without the hassles of changing parties...LOL libdem4life Jan 2016 #29
Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrr-zactly! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #32
And the Bernie people on this board, have made my choice very simple. Loki Jan 2016 #35
I will vote for Trump? Plucketeer Jan 2016 #39
I've heard some pathetic smears against Sanders supporters, but this one's the winner arcane1 Jan 2016 #49
That's b.s. Glamrock Jan 2016 #59
And you've been here (DU) how long? Loki Jan 2016 #60
Not sure what difference it makes, Glamrock Jan 2016 #61
Not KNOWING the difference is part of the problem uponit7771 Jan 2016 #38
Same color, different shade. senz Jan 2016 #40
Republicans are for the rich, Hillarys not a republican... tons of endorsement tell a different tale uponit7771 Jan 2016 #42
Hillary is of, by, and for the rich. 100%. You don't know that?? senz Jan 2016 #44
Republicans think that too, ... that's what turned me on TPP... Republicans were for it I was uponit7771 Jan 2016 #45
That's a start, uponit7771. A good start. senz Jan 2016 #48
We have the chance to elect a real progressive Jackilope Jan 2016 #62
But it is about Hillary and Bernie. Maedhros Jan 2016 #50
Nader people believed the same thing look what it got us Loki Jan 2016 #53
...and off to the ignore list for you. [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2016 #57
The Move On voters also had an option to not endorse any candidate, and they did require a Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #55
Watch out for the door! n/t brewens Jan 2016 #56
When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jan 2016 #23
Excellent OP. senz Jan 2016 #30
Thank you, senz. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #58
kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #34
Big K&R azmom Jan 2016 #36
#4 is false on its face uponit7771 Jan 2016 #37
Didn't catch the news over the weekend? senz Jan 2016 #41
Another irrelevant MSM poll that means nothing at this point in the election cycle and I'm talking.. uponit7771 Jan 2016 #43
Yeah, it's called "the American people." senz Jan 2016 #51
Thrilled to hear this. kestrel91316 Jan 2016 #52

enid602

(8,658 posts)
2. 11
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jan 2016

11. You could vore as many times as you wanted to. Another huuuuge virtual victory for the Bernie Bunker!!!!!

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
4. Actually that would be number 6 and "if" it were the case, does the same not hold true
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jan 2016

for Hillary's supporters?

I know one thing for certain, I only voted once.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
5. Is the implication that Hillary actually won the vote, but multiple voting people ruined it for her?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jan 2016

Yeah, go with that. Flesh it out for me.

-none

(1,884 posts)
8. While you could vote as many times as you wanted, but only the last time you voted counted.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jan 2016

So the massive vote totals did could not depend on any multiple votes.

The clock ran out at 11:59PM last Sunday.

enid602

(8,658 posts)
19. voted twice
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

I voted twice for Hill, as I was curious to see if it was protected. Piece of cake. I just uused two diffetent email addys. I was directed to the site by a post in the BS group here on DU. But I guess an endorsememt IS an endorsement, eh?

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. Well, aren't you clever. Thankfully, most others don't feel it necessary to try and
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

game the system. And who was talking about multiple votes?????

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
47. So why didn't Clinton win it?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016

You're saying you cheated and it's easy. Are you also saying Sanders has more of a machine for cheating than Clinton?

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
9. Another lie. They take your name and email address. First and Last name. you're allowed to change
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

your vote as often as you want but ONLY your final vote counts. So, stop lying.

GO BERNIE!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Normal people don't cheat in a Move-On election.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jan 2016

Cheating in something like that accomplishes nothing. It's only the reality of the support of Move-On members that matters.

If the election had been close, then Hillary might be able to blame cheating for the result. But 77% -- would take a lot of cheating to get that number.

And Hillary's fans were the ones most likelky to cheat because they knew already the outcome of the DFA vote.

Democratic activists are pro-Bernie. Hillary supporters are going to have to deal with that.

enid602

(8,658 posts)
33. intention
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jan 2016

I could have voted once for Hill and once for Bern, as it was not my intention to 'jane' the numbers. I didn't think of that at the time.

mattvermont

(646 posts)
24. not true.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jan 2016

Rules:

Voting is open to anyone who has been a MoveOn member prior to the start of the voting period. While any person may cast a ballot, only the votes of MoveOn members prior to the start of the vote will be counted.
You may change your vote as many times as you like, but only your final vote will be counted.
Members will be asked to choose between endorsing Hillary Clinton, Martin O’Malley, Bernie Sanders, and making no endorsement.
Voting opens Thursday, January 7 at noon ET / 9 a.m. PT and closes at 2:59 a.m. ET Monday, January 11 / 11:59 p.m. PT Sunday, January 10.
This is a big decision, and one thing we’ve heard loud and clear from MoveOn members is that it’s important for us to stand together. To win the 2016 presidential endorsement of MoveOn members, a candidate must earn a supermajority—67%, or, technically, 66.67%—of votes cast. If no candidate hits that threshold, we won’t endorse in the Democratic presidential primary.
If an endorsement is made, we’ll run a 100% positive campaign for that candidate.
No matter who’s endorsed in the primary, if members choose to make an endorsement, we’ve heard loud and clear that MoveOn members of all stripes want us to work to support the Democratic nominee in keeping a Republican out of the White House–and we’ll do that.
We’ll announce the results on Tuesday, January 12 after a secure confirmation of the ballots cast.

But thanks for playing

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
28. I know I voted ONCE
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

As a law-obiding Democrat would and would expect others of the same ilk to. Remember - it was 79 percent - not 51 or 52. By your suggestion, that's a lot of cheating.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. Wait till he sweeps the SC Dem primary,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jan 2016

which I'm pretty sure he will, then things will REALLY get interesting. Never again will Third-Way Dems be able to make the claim that only Conservative Democrats can compete in Red States; their whole justification for existing. NEVER again, and I couldn't be happier. Go Bernie!

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
10. I hope you're right!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jan 2016

That would be the icing on the cake! Because, you know, SC isn't "Lily White" like Vermont.

Go Bernie!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
11. I live less than 2 miles from
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jan 2016

the SC border, have friends and relatives there, work in and around the area, and based on what I see and hear I am quite confident Bernie will prevail in the SC primary.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
31. THAT will be SWEET!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

Send that ConservaDem, Turd way crap on a one-way trip down the ceramic whirlpool.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
15. The news this morning is good
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jan 2016

MoveOn endorses Bernie by a vote of its members and Bernie is leading in Iowa and New Hampshire.

The Democratic Party is democratic again.

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
54. Apparently Bernie is now leading Hillary among women and older voters in New Hampshire.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jan 2016


Two new polls out Tuesday show Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders pulling ahead in Iowa and firmly in the lead in New Hampshire. One of them also shows him leading Hillary Clinton among women in the Granite State.

Women in New Hampshire two months ago supported Clinton to Sanders 56 percent to 37, according to a Monmouth University poll. The latest Monmouth poll shows the senator reversing those numbers, gaining the support of 50 percent of women compared to Hillary’s 44 percent.

In Iowa, which has been more friendly to Hillary so far this primary, Sanders took the lead in an American Research Group poll. Likely Democratic caucus goers support him 47 percent to her 44 percent, Former Gov. Martin O’Malley received 3 percent.

In both these polls, Sanders received more support from younger voters and independents than Hillary, as he usually does, though interestingly in New Hampshire he has gained more support of voters 50 and older than Clinton, 50 to 44 percent.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/12/sanders-leading-hillary-among-new-hampshire-women/



Loki

(3,825 posts)
17. Just unsubscribed from MoveOn, because I think that promoting one candidate over another
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jan 2016

especially in this race and not making the difference between our candidates and the crazy assed Republican's does nothing but divide us instead of uniting us. This isn't about Hillary or Bernie, this is about the Democratic candidates against bat shit crazy.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
20. NEA - my teachers union -- did NOT ask us who we wanted
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jan 2016

... and I pay dues. During the summer RA, they were asked not to endorse early, but looks what they did. With MoveOn, I got a vote. (Voted only once, used my real name).

Division is already here. Many of us are fed up with the Democratic Party being GOP lite and just as bought and paid for as the GOP.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
32. Puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrr-zactly!
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

If you want a corporate-sponsored candidate, Ms. Clinton's your choice. Keep the (D) next to your name and just keep it a secret that it now stands for "Deceiver".

Loki

(3,825 posts)
35. And the Bernie people on this board, have made my choice very simple.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jan 2016

When you call the other candidate names and belittle any attempt to converse or compare ideology, you have become just like the brain dead rebukes. If Bernie gets the nomination, I will vote for him, but you will vote for Trump, and that makes you worse that any of the worst Democrats that we have ever had, period. Fools, all of you, and we will all pay the price for your naiveté.

.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
49. I've heard some pathetic smears against Sanders supporters, but this one's the winner
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders supporters will vote for Trump??

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
59. That's b.s.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jan 2016

1. If you're basing your choice of candidate on candidates supporters instead of policy positions, you probably shouldn't call other people fools.
2. All of Bernie's supporters are going to vote for Trump? Really?
3. As far as naivete goes, you are supporting a candidate whose favorability ratings are completely upside down. Doesn't make for a very safe election.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
60. And you've been here (DU) how long?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jan 2016

I've been here since the *selection and I've seen it all, I consider all this childish name calling proof that this isn't coming from life-long Democrats, and to those who have blocked me, I could care less. This election will be won by people who have worked hard and know what is at stake. Bernie has had over 30 years to get what he has proposed done, and he certainly hasn't accomplished much. For that matter, neither has anyone else, but I don't care how we get rid of Republicans and their poisoned ideology, I want it gone.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
61. Not sure what difference it makes,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jan 2016

but I've been a serial lurker here since the Bush years.

Not sure what this lifelong/real Democrat stuff is about either. Not one for purity tests myself. I care more about policy positions more than I care if you're a Democrat or Independant.

Finally, I'm with you regarding the conservanazis. Can't wait to be able to do something about these gerrymandered districts. 2020 is a long way off! Can't come soon enough.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
40. Same color, different shade.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

Corporatism and corporatism with a touch of feminism is still corporatism.

I believe in democracy. I'm for the people.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
42. Republicans are for the rich, Hillarys not a republican... tons of endorsement tell a different tale
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jan 2016

... than partisan ranker

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. Hillary is of, by, and for the rich. 100%. You don't know that??
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

Where have you been over that past two years?

Eyes. Open. Now.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
45. Republicans think that too, ... that's what turned me on TPP... Republicans were for it I was
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

... against it because they've shown a history of absurd bad judgement and dismissing reality.

The more I read their mindset repeated the easier it is to dismiss said.... sad

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. That's a start, uponit7771. A good start.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:55 PM
Jan 2016

But you will gain more from understanding why you favor or oppose any given legislation. It's important to clarify for yourself the reasons why legislation is good or bad. It's not enough to know who is for it and who is against it. That's letting other people do your thinking for you. (I realize we can't spend our time reading legislation, but on important, contested legislation, we can try to find out what's in it and what it will do.)

Remember, HRC pushed the TPP when she was SOS. She loved it, she was its champion; she called it "the gold standard of trade agreements." She only "changed her mind" when she learned that a huge contingent of Democrats were against it -- and she needed their votes to win the primary.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
62. We have the chance to elect a real progressive
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jan 2016

... not a corporatist or hawk. Tired of the watered down Democratic creed of, "We're not as bad as them...".

The thing is, at least with MoveOn, it was a Democratic vote vs elites telling us who they endorsed.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
50. But it is about Hillary and Bernie.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jan 2016

One of them will defeat the Republicans in the General Election, which means the country will go one of two ways: pro-corporate/pro-war, or anti-corporate/anti-war.

It's good that Move On listened to its members and chose the latter path. Party unity is not more important than moving the country away from corporate oligarchy.

Uncle Joe

(58,426 posts)
55. The Move On voters also had an option to not endorse any candidate, and they did require a
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

super majority of at least 66+% before they could make an endorsement, so this wasn't just a setup for promoting one candidate over the other, it wasn't about division this was about unison or abstaining.

The people chose unison and active support.

MoveOn to their credit was gauging the will of the people, whether one likes the results or not, this was democracy.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
23. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jan 2016

eom

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
41. Didn't catch the news over the weekend?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

Major polls show Bernie beating the Republicans in the GE. Hillary ties or loses.

That's electability.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
43. Another irrelevant MSM poll that means nothing at this point in the election cycle and I'm talking..
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jan 2016

... about this quip

" and Bernie is inspiring and mobilizing the communities it’ll take to win. .."

he's not mobilizing communities, he's mobilzing a community... that's obvious

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