NY TIMES Puts the ENTHUSIASM Bernie Sanders is Generating on Their Front Page

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In an apparent (and uncharacteristic) concession to the reality of the 2016 Democratic Presidential primaries, a mainstream publication has acknowledged that Bernie Sanders’ popularity is not just a charming aside, but is actually posing a serious threat to his main opponent. Today’s Times’ article “Hillary Clinton Races to Close Enthusiasm Gap With Bernie Sanders in Iowa” opens with this:

Iowa Democrats are displaying far less passion for Hillary Clinton than for Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont three weeks before the presidential caucuses, creating anxiety inside the Clinton campaign as she scrambles to energize supporters and to court wavering voters.

The enthusiasm gap spilled abundantly into view in recent days, from the cheering crowds and emotional outpourings that greeted Mr. Sanders, and in interviews with more than 50 Iowans at campaign stops for both candidates.

Voters have mobbed Mr. Sanders at events since Friday, some jumping over chairs to shake his hand, snap a selfie or thank him for speaking about the middle class. “Did you get to touch him?” asked one woman who could not get close enough after an event here on Saturday.

And then actually includes paragraphs like this:

Audiences for Mrs. Clinton have yet to grow to consistently match those for Mr. Sanders, and the typical reception for her was evident on Monday in Waterloo. About 300 people welcomed Mrs. Clinton enthusiastically and listened to her diligently, but many of them, still unsure, rebuffed Clinton aides trying to get them to sign “commitment cards” to caucus for her.

“I personally want to find out if she’s trustworthy or not,” said Katie Bailey, 71, of Cedar Falls. “There’s so much un-trust. I want to eyeball her.”

Matt Fagerlind, 36, also attended Mrs. Clinton’s Waterloo event, but he found himself thinking about how Mr. Sanders’s rallies had the same uplifting emotional intensity as Barack Obama’s in 2008. “I think Sanders is going to give her a good run,” he said, describing himself as unmoved by Mrs. Clinton and planning to vote for Mr. Sanders.

The following is an admission I, personally, haven’t seen in a mainstream publication at all:

A Sanders victory in Iowa would be a shock given the institutional advantages held by Mrs. Clinton, a former secretary of state and a favorite of the Iowa Democratic establishment. It would also set off significant momentum for Mr. Sanders heading into the Feb. 9 primary in New Hampshire, where he is well known as a senator from neighboring Vermont and holds a slight lead in the polls.

It goes on to give the Clinton campaign the obligatory acknowledgement of her continued front-runner/hard-to-beat status. But then (quite surprisingly, for me at least) ends with this humdinger:

Many of the Sanders supporters interviewed said they felt personally moved by his message and by what they saw as his sincerity. Bert Permar, 86, a retired professor, said he had gone to four Sanders events and was now making calls to share the candidate’s message about tackling wealth disparities in America.

“I love to see him. He motivates me,” Mr. Permar said on Sunday, sitting in the front row at a Sanders forum on veterans’ issues in Marshalltown. “I get emotional. It brings tears that someone is talking about the issues that we should be concerned about.”

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/12/1468724/-NY-Times-Puts-the-Enthusiasm-that-Bernie-is-Generating-on-Their-Front-Page

[Segami]

1. Man, I don't see an empty seat anywhere....

[Helen Borg]

35. The other side will say...

That there are plenty of seat left on the stairs!

[lewebley3]

49. The New York times has been printing false stories about the Clintons

Its a rag:

[Segami]

54. New York Times a rag?....

Which of the major newspapers (would you recommend) and in your opinion, to be a respected source of news and information?

[Segami]

62. Crickets?....more crickets.

Do I hear crickets?

[madokie]

102. Thats all I hear is crickets

[BeanMusical]

97. Bwahahaah!

You're killing me!

[lewebley3]

99. Maureen is like sick twisted jealous sister: NYtimes: Cannnot Stand

the Clintons are working for the people.

[BeanMusical]

100. You still haven't answered Segami's question.

Which of the major newspapers (would you recommend) and in your opinion, to be a respected source of news and information?

And the Clintons are working for the the Clintons.

[lewebley3]

101. None: News owned by the corporations, just like radio

[BeanMusical]

103. Except when they publish or broadcast something positive about HRC, of course.

[lewebley3]

104. No, Hillary has been on the nation scene for almost 30 years: Time

has shown us how dedicated Hillary is to helping the American
people.

I personally, like most American's have been able to watch
her work, myself over time.

As the saying goes" Time will tell" : and time has told us Hillary
is very special American Dem.

Among many things I have always been impressed with her fighting
spirit, and of course her talent. (along with her Heart)

She is very fine politician most of the time: Just like FDR and LBJ,
they are Dem's that got things done. (Obama too).

[BeanMusical]

105. And where did you copy/pasted that from?

Or is someone else typing for you? Because your "style" is completely different all of a sudden. Interesting.

[lewebley3]

106. It my original: Thank-You

[BeanMusical]

107. Whatever happened to lewebley1 and lewebley2?

I miss them so much.

[lewebley3]

108. I'll take that as sign I am becoming a little better at writing: Thanks

[BeanMusical]

109. Hum, now you're back to your normal "style". Strange.

[MrMickeysMom]

51. The other side has said some bad things about us, Helen, so go figure...

The few times I've read any of the HRC group, we keep getting painted with a brush of being nasty and saying nasty things to people who support HRC. I've never done that, and the one time I tried to comment on the HRC group, I was promptly banned.

I don't know when it will sink in that there is a reason most people like Bernie Sanders, but it won't be because I can join in their conversation.

Lead by example, I say!

[litlbilly]

48. My wife and I were there Segami, in Portland. Was a sight to behold in person:) and the 10k people

outside.

[Mike__M]

55. Hi litlbilly...

I might have seen you there - my daughter and I were almost in this OP's photo, just out of view in the top right.
I was the one waving a "Bernie" sign and cheering.

[litlbilly]

57. Hi Mike:) We were to Bernies right about 1/4 the way up in the first row, waving like crazy too:)

[cascadiance]

56. I was one of the last people to get in, up in the rafters near the wall in the top left...

... of that picture. Since I had earlier had a pass from helping volunteer for the event, I was able to get in.

I was just outside the doors trying to sell some Bernie in Portland t-shirts when the event organizers were telling people then that the doors were shut and no one else was being let in.



The line was still going out to streets where one couldn't see an end to it then. I wish I'd thought to get out my cell phone then to take a video of that scene then, as it would have really heavily illustrated what happens at all of the overflow crowds at Bernie's events and how so many people are outside waiting to get in as well as inside the event.

[Segami]

58. Wonderful!...

What an energized sight it must have been!. I'm very envious.

CoffeeCat mentioned she was also there jumping from chair to chair just to get closer to Bernie....I would have been doing the same alongside her...

[snort]

72. Section 201.

It was an amazing experience (and I got the coffee mug too).

[Lorien]

79. Still waiting to see Hillary fill

20,000 seat venues!

[Ikonoklast]

82. Does 30 Hudson Street have an auditorium in their building?

If they did, I'm sure Wall Street investment bankers and hedge fund guys would be there for Hillary.

[litlbilly]

84. She's having trouble with 300 seat venues atm.

[lob1]

90. She can do it if the venue's on Wall St.

[reformist2]

67. Bernie's crowds are actually bigger than Obama's. And it's his IDEAS that are packing them in, too.

It is exciting to see. Hillary die-hards need to wake up and stop resisting the zeitgeist.

[neverforget]

75. And a Hillary supporter said this about the event in Portland, Or

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=506328

[lob1]

91. That's just some king defending his queen.

[Art_from_Ark]

92. LOL

And he's the father of the mad king the Founding Fathers rebelled against

[Faux pas]

2. Kickin' with gusto!

[CharlotteVale]

3. K&R

[Punkingal]

4. K&R

[artislife]

5. 2008 deja vu all over again!

Feel the Bern...

[Helen Borg]

36. This will fired up everybody!

[Old Codger]

40. Apparently

She and her advisers are slow learners... They don't see her real persona,she comes across as arrogant,aloof and condescending

[JDPriestly]

66. You are so right. I can't understand that her advisers can't see that.

And she also sounds arrogant, aloof and condescending.

She is not a good candidate. Maybe a good person when you know her or work with her, but not a good candidate. She just does not have the charisma and love of people that Bernie has.

Bernie has won many elections, often against the odds.

Feel the Bern!

[gordyfl]

95. I Agree

I feel like Hillary and her advisors are out of touch with America 2016. They still believe they can buy their way into the White House.

[Motown_Johnny]

6. This part made me laugh:

but many of them, still unsure, rebuffed Clinton aides trying to get them to sign “commitment cards” to caucus for her.



How disheartening it must be for those aides to be told "no" over and over again when trying to get people to sign those cards.


I think this is the kind of thing that makes up people's minds for them. Anyone who had the guts to tell an aid "no" will be very unlikely to spend the day caucusing for her.

[CoffeeCat]

12. And compare that to Sanders' rally and support

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There were 900 people who attended Bernie's event in Ankeny, a suburb of Des Moines. The rally was held at night and it was freezing, in the single digits. But people came out anyway.

After the event (yesterday), I entered data from Sanders supporters who VOLUNTARILY left their names, addresses, phone numbers for the campaign. They weren't forced to sign in. They could stop at the table and fill out the paperwork that was sitting there--if they wanted.

I spent four hours putting that data into the VAN yesterday!!! I was not the only person doing this. There were tons of comments too, "Please call me!" and "I want to call and canvass!".

We will be calling those people to volunteer. Most importantly, we will be getting them to the caucuses!!

[Motown_Johnny]

17. First of all, thank you for all your hard work. It is appreciated.

Secondly, HOLY CRAP!!!

That is great news!

Thanks.

[wilsonbooks]

23. Thank you for your work.

Go Bernie.

[Duval]

24. CoffeeCat, thanks for what you do!

I'm so inspired by your activism.

[azmom]

45. You are awesome CoffeCat.

[99th_Monkey]

16. Apparently Iowa voters find "Loyalty Oaths" repugnant. As well they should. n/t

[CoffeeCat]

20. Seriously...it's got the feel of "used-car sales" tactics

Iowans reel against gimmicks and games. These cards strike me as pressure sales tactics.

It feels pushy. Candidates are supposed to be earning our support. Not cajoling us into signing something. It's weird.

I think it's out of step with Iowans and our caucuses.

When I went to one of Hillary's events, there was a lot of pressure. Her people were very friendly and professional, but it was almost like walking into a clothing store where the employees are working on commission.

They had us sign these cards when we were standing outside in the freezing cold, waiting to get in the building. I refused and I was told, "This is your ticket to get in. If you want to come in, this is your ticket."

Seriously? Once we were in, her organizers were begging us to sign those "commit to caucus" cards. It was all just too much.

Iowans are so diligent and mindful of the seriousness of the caucuses. We are first in the nation, and we are humbled by this. We really want to make a good decision--for our country. So, we attend these rallies in order to gather information. To have multiple people demanding that you sign commitment cards and fill out personal info cards as a "ticket" to get in the door--is a lot of misplaced marketing tactics.

We want to listen and learn, not feel like we're being culled for data.

[pangaia]

27. "Seriously...it's got the feel of "used-car sales" tactics"

yes..
AND right wing republican tactics.

Loyalty oaths my ass..

[Divernan]

93. Bill would have made a kick ass used car salesman.

With Hillary's personality, she couldn't give them away.

[99th_Monkey]

29. Cool that you live in Iowa! You're like Bernie DU Group's 20/20 eyes on the ground there.

I saw your post about climbing over chairs. LOL .. this is getting to be such great fun, like
politics is supposed to be, not a dreary exercise in futility, half-measures ending in a sorry-
ass choice of lesser evils, but an actually uplifting and enlivening.

Thanks for being there!!

[nashville_brook]

59. also provides the campaign with worthless/coerced information

i guess their field managers will get to gloat on their great commitment card exercise for a couple of weeks, but when caucus day comes and those numbers are WAY off, somebody's going to want their wubbie.

[CoffeeCat]

61. You nailed it

Its "coerced" information. It's not organic. This leaves you with many comment cards, but most likely a fair number of them are, as you said, "worthless."

At the last Sanders rally, we put blank paper on tables with pens. When people walked in we told them that they could fill out their name/address/phone if they wanted--so we could contact them about volunteering or reminding them of their caucus location.

Hundreds of people left their info. I put that info into the VAN and it took me hours.

That's the stark difference.

And logistically, what a waste of time to call all of those coerced numbers! Don't you want your people calling numbers that are going to bear fruit?

As you also pointed out, when caucus day comes and they're feeling confident about a certain precinct because they have 100 comment cards signed from people in that precinct--they may be in for a rude awakening. People signing a card that is shoved in their face are being polite. That doesn't necessarily signal full support. To some it may, but not all!

I get Clinton's emails too. I must get 5 emails a week, telling me that I need to "commit to caucus" with a big, red button that I can click to do so. Seriously, enough all ready. Bernie doesn't engage in nonsense like this. It's really out of place in a caucus campaign.

[nashville_brook]

63. i started getting HRC emails after the data breech

could have come from DWS and the FL Dem Party list (easily), but that's not how it *should* be done either. i do marketing for a living. opting-in to a list, is opting-in...TO THAT LIST.

FL Dem Party is the only non-candidate (partisan) list i belong to. and i only take their emails to see how awful they actually get before changing up their comms strategy.

but i can say, that i personally know a paid social media manager who works for a well known candidate, who shared his email list with a fellow dem (who her client doesn't care for, btw, and would have a shit-fit if he knew). i think she did it just to prove she had "power" and "could make things happen." staffers will do the stupidest things to show they have power. that's why VEEP is much closer to the truth than House of Cards.

[Divernan]

94. I return that crap to Clinton, postage due.

After carefully blacking out any code/info identifying me as the original recipient, I fold everything up, stuff it in the return envelope, including a plea to whomever opens it to come over to the light side, and let the U.S. Mail handle it from there.

Oh, and like you, I didn't receive any solicitations from Camp Weathervane until AFTER the earlier/October data breach.

[randr]

7. Bernie is the new

"American Awakening" if I may coin a phrase.

[Android3.14]

8. After all the vicious snark, insults and predatory alert stalking

Blessed silence.

[dorkzilla]

22. Give them time...

The day is young

[longship]

39. You must be posting about the candidate groups.

And I agree about that. The candidate groups, so called safe havens, where never is heard a discouraging word, or one is banned.

"Elizabeth Warren is not running for president." BANNED from the Warren group.

"Manny violated the DU TOS." Banned from the Bernie Sanders group. And I am a Bernie supporter.

My thinking is that the candidate groups serve no purpose here. The only haven safety is to ditch them all. I stand with GDP, where discussion is not limited by a club card and secret handshakes.

But please be polite here, of course except when discussing the candidate groups.

[CoffeeCat]

9. LOL! I was one of the people jumping over chairs!

At Bernie's event in Ankeny, he was making his way out of the venue, but there were rows of chairs in the way. Everyone was rushing over there, but we were blocked. So people, including myself, were standing on the chairs and attempting to walk on the chairs to get to him. There was a huge crowd doing this.

I looked over at the guy next to me, who was also standing on a chair and I said, "Oh my God, I'm a middle-aged woman climbing on chairs to take a selfie with a presidential candidate."

We both chuckled.

I imagine that this may have happened at his other events. Sanders was everywhere in Iowa over the weekend.

It's stories like this that are only going to add fuel to the "Feel the Bern" fire. I really wouldn't be surprised if his crowd sizes grew much, much bigger. The word is out!!

The people who have been attending these Iowa events were "early adopters." Now that the crazy caucus season is upon us, and the media is covering his incredible events--I bet this produces a groundswell of support and also people who are curious about all of the excitement.

This is only going to get better, folks!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. LOL! Great story, CoffeeCat! I would have been climbing over chairs too.

Bernie's worth it! We could start the Middle Aged Chair Jumping Brigade!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[Duval]

26. If we could put pillows around the chairs, we could start

the Elderly Chair Jumping Brigade. I'd do it!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

30. Definitely have to have pillows!

We don't want any broken hips!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[pangaia]

28. Great story you 'middle-aged woman,' you.!!

GO COFFEE CAT !!!

Don't fall....

[A Simple Game]

31. Thanks, nice story CoffeeCat, could you tell us if the local media in Iowa are covering Bernie? n/t

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Shades of the Obama campaign, only BIGGER and better!

Bernie is doing much, much better than Obama did at this stage in his campaign. More donations, larger crowds and just as much enthusiasm.

That's a great picture! YOOOOOOGE CROWD!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[kenn3d]

13. Great OP Segami - Thanks

The MSM (including many established newspapers/websites) is largely still in some stage of disbelief or denial. But they are all beginning to hedge their bets on the "inevitability" of the Clinton machine.
Bernie Sanders is a true contender for the Presidency, and this just gets harder to deny every day by day.

[99th_Monkey]

15. K&R - A very auspicious development. Just WOW!!! n/t

[zentrum]

18. Amazing on all levels. Wow! n/t

[Skwmom]

19. And this without the type of rally coverage they've been giving Trump. n/t

[FuzzyRabbit]

21. Still no discussion of the issues in newspapers and TV news.

We all know why we support Bernie or Hillary, and we can discuss their stands on issues of importance. But the "news" media will not report their positions on any issues. To them it is merely a popularity contest (or some might call it a "horse race".)

All we get from the news is "Sanders generates more enthusiasm than Clinton" or "Clinton still ahead in the polls". No explanation from the news of why Clinton is still ahead or why Sanders generates more enthusiasm. Not a word about the issues.

[mountain grammy]

25. Why can't I kick and rec this a million times?

[cantbeserious]

32. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[highprincipleswork]

33. Seriously, this is so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes too.

"Talks about things that concern us".

Can't say it better myself.

[NoMoreRepugs]

34. the 'un-trust' thing created by the hate machine has become an issue only because

one can never underestimate the ignorance of the American public. If it was truly valid
how does one explain anything ever said by Republicans as concerns the middle class or average person not to be untrustworthy by middle class/average Republican voters?

[longship]

37. Hooray! Happy to R&K nt

[Matariki]

38. "I get emotional. It brings tears that someone is talking about the issues.."

This:

“I love to see him. He motivates me,” Mr. Permar said on Sunday, sitting in the front row at a Sanders forum on veterans’ issues in Marshalltown. “I get emotional. It brings tears that someone is talking about the issues that we should be concerned about.”

[in_cog_ni_to]

41. kick! incredible picture! n/t

[dpatbrown]

42. Critical primary

"How sweet it is!"

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. Kick! n/t

[Amimnoch]

44. Don't forget to thank Hillary!

for letting her "bought and paid for media" do this for Bernie!

[litlbilly]

70. No, Bernie is doing it in spite of the MSM or Hillary. Easy to see thru the snark Im afraid.

[azmom]

46. Bern baby Bern

[ejbr]

47. Now I can deal with seeing all the poll posts

Whew!

[Douglas Carpenter]

50. knr

[HockeyMom]

52. It is very similar to Obama's

Is Hillary generating the same kind of support as a female candidate? If anything, this is shaping up as a NEW YORK candidacy; Trump (Queens raised), Hillary (NY Senator), and Bernie (Brooklyn raised).

As my Dad used to say, "You can take the boy out of NYC, but you will never take NYC out of the boy". The BQE Debates between Trump and Bernie? THAT I would love to see!!!

[Babel_17]

53. Sucker Punch

The media was thinking there was an outside chance of things unfolding this way, of course they will be ready to exploit this moment for ratings.

And they are waiting to be able to portray Secretary Clinton for her wizardly performance in bouncing back.

Lol, the featured article, "How we got things so wrong" is probably not on the horizon. It has to get in line behind the one dealing with the full story of what their self serving/misguided ties to our government can lead to.

But I'm thrilled at Senator Sanders campaign getting the opportunity to reap the benefits from all this. It was a long, hard, slog to get to this moment. May there be many more such, over the next nine years.

[cui bono]

60. Wow! He's a rock star!!!

This is so fantastic. Finally getting some acknowledgment.

IT'S HAPPENING!!!

FEEL THE BERN!!!


.

[Uncle Joe]

64. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Segami.

[Ivan Kaputski]

65. победитель Bernie

[bvf]

68. !

[debbyk]

69. GO IOWA!!!!

SO excited to see all the hard work come to fruition!!! Wish I could take off work and join you all, but I will be phonebanking this weekend!
BTW, I am a h.s. librarian in a very multicultural school and National Honor Society Advisor. I've been worried about African American support, i.e. middle aged women pictured at Drake U last night were cheering on HRC's response re abortion or something.
Just a small sample from my day: one of my students was giving a speech the other day. I asked her what it was about, and she said: Bernie Sanders. Now, admittedly, she's too young to vote. But this was before my usual sharing of my opinion. Another student, I played a segment or two from Killer Mike interview. The following Monday he came in and told me he had watched the rest of the video and he wanted me to know that he registered to vote. Bam!!!!!! Now let's do that by the thousands. And thousands...

[renate]

83. thank you for the phonebanking and everything else!

And welcome to DU!

[wolfie001]

71. Three weeks?

He'll continue to build support. Go Bernie!!!!

[SoapBox]

73. Go Bernie Go!

[rhett o rick]

74. Couple of good parts. A Sanders' victory would be a shock, "given the institutional advantages held

Mrs. Clinton". What is "institutional advantages" code for? This is a hint, " a favorite of the Iowa Democratic establishment".

We see this argument here in DU every day. Sanders represents the common, everyday working folks, while HRC represent "the Establishment." The Establishment is to blame for the state of the nation, so why support them via HRC and expect things to get better.

[orpupilofnature57]

76. The News they have to print to be relevant, pieces of sh-t that they are .

[Warren DeMontague]

77. K&R

[nenagh]

78. K&R...

thank you, Segami...

[ucrdem]

80. Makes me glad I'm backing Clinton.

WaPo and NYT are all about bombing Iran. No thanks.

[artislife]

81. Your candidate would vote yes if she were able

If we are to go by past actions...or can we not use her history?

[Babel_17]

85. "Maybe if the Times had actually acknowledged Sanders as a real candidate"

A "NYT Picks" reader comment.

A. Spencer Asheville, NC 14 hours ago

Maybe if the Times had actually acknowledged Sanders as a real candidate, and had been following and reporting on his campaign, this would not have come as such a surprise. This enthusiasm for Bernie has been there since he announced his candidacy. Your readers have been expressing it in the comments for months and begging you for more coverage of the Sanders campaign. You guys have just been too busy shilling for Hillary to notice.

2045 Recommended

My reply (if they post it): "Kicked and Recommended!"

[kenfrequed]

86. The energy is undeniable

We have to keep working at this.

[Live and Learn]

87. K&R nt

[myohmy2]

88. "NY TIMES Puts the ENTHUSIASM Bernie Sanders is Generating on Their Front Page"

I think they're just trying to suck-up to our new President.

[hopemountain]

89. the 86 year old retired professor's motivation

is my motivation to support a sincere candidate who does address the issues "that we should be concerned about." it's going to take all of us to work with bernie - long after he is elected. we must turn this ship around. president obama, i believe began the turn from the brink of destruction in '08.

since then we've been on a long arc/ trajectory to get the ship (our nation) turned around & back upright.

when bernie get's into office, in time and with all of us working toward this end, people will begin to see the improvements in their daily lives - more jobs, a living wage, safer communities and respect for all colors and cultures, health costs will come down, etc. families will be able to save money, maybe even have some extra for a vacation or a newer vehicle, or music lessons for the kids, and college education will not mean racking up $100's of thousands of dollars of debt. with bernie as president and all of us working together, and people feeling more secure, bigotry and blaming neighbors or targeting a neighbor's color or culture or whatever - will loose it's power. communities will seek to find common ground.

[jfern]

96. I think they got a clue when their own poll had him break 40%

[BeanMusical]

98. Kick and R