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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:57 PM Apr 2013

No such thing as rape culture?

(Trigger warning.)

I guess these young boys are just jocks. Or future frat boys. Or probably super religious. Yeah, there's got to be something else to blame, it can't be an insidious, widespread problem with society. No, that's just not possible.



Precocious Fifth Grade Psychopaths Conspire to Rape And Murder Female Classmate

Two fifth grade boys, aged 10 and 11, have been ruled competent to stand trial in juvenile court for conspiring to rape and kill their female classmate, and possibly murder other students as well. They were arrested after a classmate saw them playing with a knife on the school bus and reported it to a teacher.

...

There are no words to describe how abjectly depressing, terrifying, and infuriating it is that we live in a world in which a pair of fifth graders is capable of planning — and arming themselves for — a potential mass murder, in which two boys aged 10 and 11 have already learned to value girls' lives, bodily integrity, and dignity so little that they have no qualms about violating and murdering a girl for being "rude." While I understand that they're too young to fully appreciate the gravity of what they had planned, that doesn't diminish the atrocity of the fact that a 10 year old was able not only understand the gendered power dynamic inherent in rape, but also to plan to use it as a punitive measure against another child.

It should be unimaginable that someone so young could internalize such an extreme, hyper-aggressive, and violent understanding of rape culture. Tragically, it is not. Children and adolescents are constantly exposed to the insidious ubiquity of patriarchy and rape culture, in which violence is eroticized, male sexual agression is affirmed, and assumed male access to women's bodies is normalized. Lacking the discursive tools to understand that these things are not "just the way the world works," they can easily absorb misogynistic values, which they re-circulate and reinforce through seemingly "mild" actions such as slut-shaming, victim-blaming, homophobic remarks meant to denigrate boys who exhibit feminine qualities, body shaming, etc., as well as through committing sexual harassment and assault. All of this behavior reflects and reinforces sexual attitudes that are toxic and degrading to women and men alike. Thus, although this case may be the most sickening, severe case of an adolescent absorbing and acting upon misogynistic values in recent memory, it's far from an isolated incident.

http://jezebel.com/5993282/precocious-fifth-graders-conspire-to-rape-and-murder-female-classmate

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Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
1. That makes me shudder I'm very sad to read this story
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:01 PM
Apr 2013

They are so young and to have these thoughts at that age scares me. I hope there's someway to rehabilitate them they have so long to live in this world and if they can't be helped the outcome is already written.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. brought a knife and gun to school and had a list of seven, including his GF who he "wanted dead"
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:20 PM
Apr 2013

after raping her. WTF. His older brothers gun? The brother and parents should be hauled in there too.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. rape as entertainment. nah. wont effect our kids. girls even buy that rape is not really rape and
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:48 PM
Apr 2013

if a girl says no after dating so long, rape is ok.

grown adults. grown adults brainwashed by fox news. we complain about it often on du. how stupid and conditioned these are.

grown adults.

but, cause it is porn, our porn lovers say, kids gotta learn sex somewhere. natural. doesnt effect any of us.

so fuckin stupid in lack of logic.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
5. Rape and Violence.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:03 PM
Apr 2013

Your mainstream television programs such as Law and Order SVU, Criminal Minds, Law and Order Criminal Intent, CSI, NCIS have absolutely horrendous and triggering scenes of unimaginable violence against women.

Ultra violence in gaming, sure we have female leads but..you better be hot.

Mayhem all around, noone is immuned from it.

To the "women rape too" crowd. Statistically the vast majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by men (and boys) apparently.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
6. If you think those tv shows are bad.....
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 04:03 PM
Apr 2013

you should try the Investigation Discovery Channel shows based on real life.

(I have to admit I watch all of those on your list and ID too. I've always been interested in true crime and think I've read just about every true crime book ever written.)

But you are spot on in your analysis, imo.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
7. Yes, Little Star.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 04:14 PM
Apr 2013

There isn't enough ink on the internet to write down ALL the t.v. programs glorifying the torture of women and girls.

May the Goddess help us all.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
8. Misogyny is ingrained from the moment we are born in this culture.
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 11:06 PM
Apr 2013

It's nearly impossible to avoid its influences (if not impossible). It's also possible that these kids were abused themselves.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. K&R, Thank You!
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 12:52 PM
Apr 2013

This is sickening. I'm sorry, but I think these young boys should be harshly punished.

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