Shit Stirring to Shit Stir

[boston bean]

As most of you know, there is a thread in Meta discussing how our group is run.

1) It doesn't matter, we don't need to care if people like the way our group is run or not.

Shit Stirring to Shit Stir trouble for this group using the Help and Meta Forum

2) May have consequences

What happened last time, will not happen again here, no matter how hard some will try

3) Just resolve yourself to that fact

To respond or not

4) Totally up to you. No one likes being pushed around. Sometimes silence makes it stop, sometimes it doesn't. Do what you want.

No personal issues are to be brought in here, it is not healthy for the group. We need to keep it our safe haven.

[seabeyond]

1. dont go all over du insulting and calling us out, using key words knowing the insult and pretend

innocence. we are not dumb. and we are not passive, timid or quiet. dont expect it. and dont expect to be welcome in HOP. if you dont like us, leave us alone.

that simple for me.

[boston bean]

2. The consequences may happen

if someone is trying to shit stir this group.

Personal squabbles are not in our purview. Just wanted to clarify that.

[seabeyond]

4. not talking

personal. i hear ya.

[boston bean]

5. I understand. I just wanted to be clear

as to not have any words or thoughts or actions twisted.

[seabeyond]

3. "What happened last time, will not happen again here" sing it woman....

bottom line. and no apologies.

ok

i think i am done.

i need a break and then i need to come back in here and replyng to a couple really interesting posts.

[iverglas]

6. I haven't seen it

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because I've been working late into the night for the last week and getting up late, and today is a public holiday in Canada so I avoided the keyboard until just now. So I suppose I should go look. Yech.

But off the top of my head and just at a guess: I would say "lying to lie".

Lies and liars and lying. It's what political discourse in the US consists of: the most foul lies told by one side that the other side has to spend its time dealing with. And along with guns, it crosses my border and pollutes my country's political discourse and it makes me puke. Only in the last very few years have lies about adversaries become standard operating procedure in Canada, and without the noise coming from south of the border it would simply never have been possible here.

Google "Taliban Jack" for a quick idea of what I mean. It's the Canadian politics version of "Dworkinite".

There's no difference between this place and any other free-for-all on the internet. Harassment, intimidation, lies. And who are the targets? Duh.

A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is tying its shoelaces.

And lies can be told at Democratic Underground and get standing ovations from people wilfully stamping the truth into submission.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

10. I keep seeing the term Dworkinite- what does it mean?

I keep up with what is going on (albeit im somewhat confused by some of it, and annoyed by other parts).
But some of the terminology and insults (perceived or intentional [if you recall the "clutch the pearls" discussion, another instance where I had never heard of the term]) I have never heard of.

[seabeyond]

11. they are purposeful insults generally accompanied with a picture when the men want

to be especially ugly cause after all, us women place all our worth in our looks and sexuality. so that is where they attack. she isnt attractive, so they are letting us know we are ugly.... lol, put our head down in shame. and i have found she has said some odd things about sex so we are against sex again, head down in humilitation.

silly men

[BlueIris]

7. We've worked too hard to make this group work for *feminists* to let it be damaged

by non-feminists.

I'm feeling happy and optimistic about the future.

[Tumbulu]

8. I agree

and many other people do too. Simply take a look at the number of posts in our forum in the last 30 days - 1620 and compare that with the old group which had 173 posts in the last 30 days. Nearly 10 to 1.

[laconicsax]

9. Just one thread in H&M about this group?

I may have miscounted, but I think you're understating things.

[seabeyond]

12. bah hahahaha. laughing so hard, really did fall back on the ground.....

isnt that so.

geez us fuckin goodness. isnt that the truth. i took a day break. i am back. not two weeks. a day. ok, not a whole day, but almost. it was at least dark outside