I gotta be honest I think I need a break from DU

[Arcanetrance]

I have someone actually trying to tell me that porn depicting racist intent is ok and that I shouldn't watch it if I don't like it. If thats what this has come to I'm done for awhile

[xulamaude]

1. The porn trenches are really, really

harsh. Of course I don't mean to assume that you haven't been here before but I had to walk away (not here, but in general) some years ago and only feel up to it again after a very long rest.

Take a break and live to speak again

[Arcanetrance]

2. Honestly I handled everything fine up to being told porn with racist undertones or even holocaust

porn which is something that I couldn't believe existed so had to look it up. That those are ok and I'm a prude I just hit a breaking point. I swear being a male who doesn't fall in line with other male viewpoints makes me really wonder wtf is going on with my gender

[xulamaude]

3. I hear you.

And continue to monitor the thread.

Seriously, walk away from it and let others pick it up.

[Arcanetrance]

4. I am I swear I thought I joined a prgressive site when I joined

[Scootaloo]

5. It's DU - racism is protected here

And it's only been getting worse, I've noticed. I can't tell if it's that the admins have given up, or what.

Granted, not as bad as it COULD be, but still vastly worse than I'd expect from a liberal website.

[procon]

7. But why?

Is it a not so subtle message to the women on DU?

Is it the shock doctrine writ large for a man's misogynistic fantasy?

Why are there so many posts that reduce women to sex objects?

It's to the point that I have second thoughts about when and where I open DU due the appalling proliferation of salacious topics presented by men who publicly air their sick fetishes with sex acts and the abuse of women, children and animals.

I don't understand it.

[BainsBane]

9. We are told we are denying women's "choice" to be a sex object

Yet that is the only acceptable choice as far as they are concerned. Our choice to speak out against extreme porn is unacceptable and makes us not "real feminists"--as I have been told repeatedly by men.
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The fact is too many men just don't like women.

[nomorenomore08]

10. Some people are into oversharing. Some are into bullying those who disagree with them.

Put it all together and it can get a bit ugly.

[shenmue]

11. I can only think that

lots of assholes have joined lately. You're not the only one who's noticed.

[seabeyond]

15. honestly all of the new du is set up for the majority the ability to rule. nore chance not to hide

misogynist posts. more chance to hide those that call out the offensive.

minorities are absolutely put at an extreme disadvantage, being the minority. that is why du was great in the past. the administration countered the imbalance for the minority. no longer.

[dawg]

8. "being a male who doesn't fall in line ..."

That's why I felt the need to respond to your post in here. To show you some solidarity.

[Arcanetrance]

14. Thank you I really am actually a calm individual but today managed to push the right buttons

[seabeyond]

16. hence my OP, why women are so angry. like x said, porn is the toughest. prior to this glorification

of rape porn, i had walked away from those threads in gd. i even held out not going into the rape porn threads for a couple days. then got sick at the lies and dishonesty from the pro rape porn.

[NuclearDem]

12. After 25 years I still haven't figured out what's wrong our gender either.

[Arcanetrance]

13. Lol I'm only 2 years older than you

Too many in our gender prefer their dicks and self gratification that's about as close I've come to figuring it out

[elfin]

6. Been trashing those threads

Feel a bit better. Totally understand your stance.

[ismnotwasm]

17. I've done it

When it gets to the point when you realize how many trolls are here, how many Libertarians-- or worse--how many fucked up dumbasses crawl out with particular topics, sometimes taking a break is the best thing to do. The disgust builds up.

I don't engage them usually, it's why I stick to this particular forum. Because feminism has changed the world and is going to continue to change the world-- no matter what the invisible internet people say.

Their resistance is futile. We can't change the state of porn or anything else overnight, but it will change. It's taken a century or so to get this far. What We're living is the last gasps Of male sexual privilege and it will take a number of years to sort it out.

HOWever People who defend any kind of racism should be banned. It is an interesting insight into how sexuality and racism still combine ( there are whole books written on it) that anybody would blithely defend it.

[MadrasT]

18. Some folks seem to think that labelling ANYTHING a "kink" or "fetish"

is their magic pass to shut up all critics.

Fail.

Once again, even if you do have the freedom to do what you want, that does not come with automatic freedom from crticism.

Their so called "right" to watch whatever kind of porn they want goes hand in hand with oher people's right to say what they think about that practice.

Somehow it is supposed to be OK to watch the most violent porn availlable, and it isn't OK for anyone else to be concerned about how that might hurt society.

DU gets enraged about how the little guy gets stomped on and abused by big corporations, by voter disenfranchisement, by the government cutting social programs... anything and everything except when the little guy getting shit on is a desperate person trying to scrape up a couple bucks by... literally getting shit, pissed, spit, and ejaculated on, on film. Or a desperate young person who is just trying to gain acceptance and approval. Then it's a Libertarian Underground freedumb party around here. "As long as everyone CONSENTS!!!"

Loosely speaking "free speech" means the government won't lock you up for saying stuff.

It does NOT mean the rest of us just sit here going "Hey it's cooool, man."

[ismnotwasm]

19. + 1,000,000

[seabeyond]

20. yes. free speech. but not us. interesting, yesterday read a poster tell us we must RESPECT...

the user.

respect? no. i do not have to "respect"

that is what one post, ya, about the schoolgirls soiled panties that pissed me off. lecturing us that we must not place an ick, or shame or hold any value judgment on the men that buy soiled undies. not only are they demanding that it is their right to have this garbage, but the take it one step further, insisting we all must RESPECT the people buying this garbage.

talk about oppressive. not only demanding what we say, but demanding how we feel.

[Sheldon Cooper]

21. Something I don't think they realize is how their vigorous defense of

every violent and disturbing 'kink' out there makes their opinion on practically everything else null and void for me.

DU gets enraged about how the little guy gets stomped on and abused by big corporations, by voter disenfranchisement, by the government cutting social programs... anything and everything except when the little guy getting shit on is a desperate person trying to scrape up a couple bucks by... literally getting shit, pissed, spit, and ejaculated on, on film. Or a desperate young person who is just trying to gain acceptance and approval. Then it's a Libertarian Underground freedumb party around here. "As long as everyone CONSENTS!!!"

With the examples above, regarding concerns with corporate America, voter disenfranchisement, budget cuts, Obama care and more, when I see some of these 'men' elsewhere on this website, expressing their beliefs on those issues, what I see now is a sad and pathetic person, in a darkened room, rubbing his dick while looking at pictures of women being beaten and raped. I wonder if they have any idea how creepy they are?

I'll add my usual disclaimer: I don't care if a jury hides this. Everyone reads the hidden posts, so my opinion will still be out there for everyone to see.