Just about the dumbest damn thing I've ever read

[theHandpuppet]

I'm not a visitor to Discussionist but when SheShe invited DUers to do a search for their moniker there, I googled to see what I could find. Nothing on Discussionist, thankfully, but my handle did come up as a thread on some bozo site called "Conservative Cave". It was a ludicrous (and of course, highly offensive) rail against my Hobby Lobby protest. Now just why, some asked, would a lesbian care about reproductive rights? What business was it of mine?

Well that was just about the dumbest damn thing I've ever read.

I'm not poor -- should I not care about poverty?

I'm white privileged -- should I not give a crap about how racism permeates our society?

I've no children -- should I not care about child abuse?

I'll be long gone before the full effects of climate change smack our world -- should I not give a plug nickel for the environment?

Yes, I'm a lesbian and an older lesbian to boot -- should the reproductive rights of all women be of no concern to me?

What an incredibly pathetic display from the logic-impaired over there. I'll say it again -- that was just about the dumbest damn thing I've ever read. So much so that I have to admit I'm still laughing.

[chervilant]

1. Our species is plumb ate up with *********...

(I cannot even type the word, for fear someone will alert on my post.)

[Thinkingabout]

2. Some of us were young at one time and birth control was a part of my life.

I take the Hobby Lobby more of the same war which has been targeting females for some years. I don't know why many do not understand birth control is prescribed for more than birth control but when they run with the Todd Akin bunch and do not show interest female issues then they need to back off and leave these conversations to those in the know.

[theHandpuppet]

4. You'd have to read through that thread

The collective display of ignorance about women's health and biology was simply astounding. About the only appropriate response would be this --

[Thinkingabout]

7. I read it, it doesn't matter if one is lesbian or not, it pisses me we are being

Attacked. I haven't needed birth control for thirty years but the plain stupidity of those raising hell about BC, as I said sometimes it is prescribed for medical issues.

[marym625]

35. a valid argument

That birth control is often used for medical issues. But it pisses me off we always have to go there. It shouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

[theHandpuppet]

37. Exactly

Women shouldn't have to rationalize why they need birth control. Whether they wish it for family planning or for a medical condition, it's no one's damn business except hers.

[jimlup]

3. Agreed

Many people are clueless and insane in our world. I grow more and more convinced of this every day.

[theHandpuppet]

6. And SELFISH

This "if it doesn't affect me, I don't give a crap" attitude among conservatives (and even among some who claim to be progressives but aren't) really makes me wonder if our species is even capable of surviving our aggression and selfishness. I surely hope so.

[jimlup]

9. Yes

And they are all learned behaviors. People are not born like that.

I also agree with you on the question of species survival. My intuition says we're at about 50/50 there...

[4b5f940728b232b034e4]

5. The child abuse one was great

You should have stopped with that argument. It is powerful and simple enough to win without clouding the issue with weaker arguments. I don't have any friends with children since I only associate with college graduates with good jobs, but of course I still care about children.

[theHandpuppet]

8. Well um, thanks

I think.

I'm not sure what you meant by this, "I don't have any friends with children since I only associate with college graduates with good jobs". I wasn't aware the college graduates with good jobs don't have children.

[4b5f940728b232b034e4]

20. About my comment

I work with over seventy other developers, and other than the Indian (from India) ones, not a one is in a relationship much less has kids. I just checked our HR system, and our average age is nearly 43 years-old. Our CEO paid for three months of match.com for the white developers and hired a couple of coaches to help, but not a one of us even got a date from it. I didn't even get a single reply from the nearly three hundred messages I sent despite taking notes in from the coaches and spending a couple of hundred hours writing. I know this isn't universally true, but from what I've seen college educated men are not having children.

[kcr]

11. Wow. You're all heart. It shows. n/t

[jeff47]

19. So....your argument is college graduates with good jobs don't have kids?

Wow. That's a pretty amazingly dumb argument.

[sheshe2]

10. I am so sorry, the Handpuppet.

"What an incredibly pathetic display from the logic-impaired over there. I'll say it again -- that was just about the dumbest damn thing I've ever read. So much so that I have to admit I'm still laughing."

Well at least you are laughing.

Agreed on your points and here are mine.

I am white, that does not make me uncaring about racism.

I am straight, that does not mean I don't support LGBT.

I live paycheck to paycheck with little savings. I have to take from that to live. When that is gone i sure hope I am too. Yet I give small amounts when I can to help those less fortunate than I am.

As an older woman, I fear every day my job may no longer be there for me. They keep cutting pay and hours and replacing full time workers with part timers. Yet in my job I am vocal about this and fight anyway I can to help stop it.

I have no children, yet I have nieces and nephews I adore and would down right die for. For this reason I fight any way I can for their future. Yes, I am older too, yet I will never stop fighting for a future for them. I will do the best I can to save them from this mess we have made.

[theHandpuppet]

12. No need to be sorry, SheShe

Any time I can be of assistance in illuminating the utter stupidity of the right, all the better!

We're all in this together.

[sheshe2]

13. That we are sweetie! That we are~

[truedelphi]

14. Your list left out one:

We are not stoopid, but should we be worried about the vast number of RW'ers who are?

[theHandpuppet]

38. Actually, that's a tough one

That kind of stupid is willful and deliberate.

[rocktivity]

15. Um...because lesbians can reproduce?

and because they have the right to?


rocktivity

[BlueJazz]

16. Being into Astronomy and Physics, my friends sometimes ask me about life "Out there"..

...and if Aliens will ever contact earth. I told one the other night:
"Oh the Aliens know we're here alright. They're just too smart to have anything to do with us"

[Stargazer09]

21. Agreed

If alien beings are smart enough to find us, they are smart enough to avoid all of the drama and stupidity here.

[oldandhappy]

17. good post!!

Thanks. Like your clarity. Like your laugh.

[bvf]

18. That is pretty dumb.

And remarkably ignorant of the interlocutors in question, too.

"Conservative Cave" seems like an apt moniker.

[theHandpuppet]

39. Apparently it's the Neanderthal think tank

So a "cave" seems entirely appropriate.

[Stargazer09]

22. Did they not even consider...

...the fact that some women use birth control for medical reasons not relating to reproduction?

I guess that is too much to ask of those idiots.

Hugs to you for having to read that garbage.

[freshwest]

32. They listen to Rush who believes a woman takes a pill before each act of sex, like him with Viagra.

I actually worked with a woman who had to take the pill to get pregnant. Sounds crazy, but that's how messed she was. Another tried taking the pill, but it gave the period from hell and she had to run to the ER. This was back when the pill had not been tweaked. They are safer now.

And I knew other women who took them for other conditions, the point of Fluke's discussion, but Rush didn't get any of it right. He claimed tax payers paid for her sex life, an outright lie.
Then demanded, since he was paying for her to have sex, doubling down on the lie, she should be forced to livestream her having sex online so he could watch it. Since he paid for it and should get something for his money.

So many lies, so much hate, willful ignorance and pettiness. These are very small minded folks. Nothing better to do with their privileged existance.

[IrishAyes]

23. Oh dear - if you want to hear really stupid crap,

you should visit our town's little cafe where the local farmers gather since they don't have a general store's pot belly stove to gather round. I went in there for breakfast once and almost lost it. They must've thought I was the crazy one, alternating between a beet red face and barely holding back an insane cackle. People around here still think that feeding a piece of bread to a dog will create worms in its stomach. Not promote worminess by ruining their health, but actually transforming the bread into worms. They were busy loudly wondering how that happens when I let out my first whoop.

[Skittles]

24. it's not like they are known for their critical thinking skills

ya know?

[Jackpine Radical]

25. It's the Republican Pathology--lack of empathy,

lack of compassion, total dedication to the principle of "What's In It for Me?"

They cannot imagine themselves as poor, disabled, or as a member of a disadvantaged minority.

Often, they're into Power & Control. Among the males of the subspecies, that is a major dirving motivation behind the Culture of Rape.

In short, the Republican Pathology is a mix of psychopathy and narcissism.

[theHandpuppet]

40. Yep, that pretty well defines their condition

Too bad there isn't a pill for that one!

[Jackpine Radical]

44. There is, but

It's not legal.

[PeaceNikki]

51. That's 100% accurate. The few who support same sex marriage only convert when a close family member

comes out

They literally only care about things that impact them.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

26. oh, I see I've been discussed at the cave too.

Harrrr Harrrr.

Don't feel like bothering to check the ravings of the post-doctoral candidates over there!

[DesertFaux]

27. You're an Investor, a human driven by a need to help, you have Reciprocity!

the drive to invest in humans without knowledge of any return, is a basic part of us. Everything we do is an investment, we call it caring, or giving or 'being good', it really is our investing nature shining thru. But those who lack this ability don't speak its language or see little value in investing in humans, they see it as a waste. Those whose brains never developed complex human abilities can easily be 'turned', there is no inner compass. They are vulnerable to the manipulation of the Limbaughs and O'Reillys and Hannity's of the world and every right wing crank hungry for a new way not to care. These aren't conservatives, they are something else entirely. Keep on truckin!

[freshwest]

33. Well said, thanks.

[theHandpuppet]

41. It does seem to be a collective case of arrested development

Which is why trying to appeal to their sense of empathy won't work.

[marym625]

28. I have been told the same thing

By one of the idiots from NOM or HAM. It was the same night someone told me I shouldn't be allowed near children.

Lovely people, bigots

[Spitfire of ATJ]

29. Now google "narcissism" and you'll see where their head is at.

[murielm99]

30. They commented about some of my posts

over there, too. I just found them. They are profoundly ignorant posts. Some of them commented on my daughter's line of work, classical musician.

The posts were stupid and anti-intellectual, but what do you expect? They won't debate us in the open. They go into their cave, a good metaphor for their benighted, in-the-dark attitudes, and make fun of us. They probably don't know how to run their own lives, so they make fun of ours.

I need to go take a shower after reading their stuff. Don't worry about them. They have no credibility.

[theHandpuppet]

42. Oh, I don't worry about them

Unless they get near a voting booth or run for Congress. Then I have a problem.

[MrScorpio]

31. And that's why the Discussionist is so much fun for me

The same fools show up from the cave and think that the same bullshit that they live on in their own echo chamber actually has a snowball's chance in hell outside in the real world.

[sheshe2]

34. OMG!

I did a DI site search, you theHandpuppet did a google search. I just did that too.

I am there too. Holy ****!

I only stopped by for one. That was enough. What they called me there...S/H/Its-S/H/it

So cute~

[KitSileya]

36. This seems a kind of rubbernecking....

I googled my screen name and conservative cave, and got some of the threads where they had discussed threads here. Kind of amusing how in my case, they'd latched on to my descriptions of how things work in Norway, and their rejoinder seems to be that Norway has $5 bread. Which, granted, is true - but they refrain from mentioning that the average hourly wage in Norway is about $45....

[theHandpuppet]

43. Wow -- how did they manage an actual, livable wage?

What the furk is wrong with us on this side of the pond? Why such a resentment of the poor? I just don't get it.

[freshwest]

50. #1: They are united. #2: The American Plantation Mentality. Get rich by theft, keep it, justify.

Wash, rinse, repeat. I found a Faulkner quote saying it's the same thing, over and over for twenty thousand years. No past or future. Just echoes.

[mercuryblues]

45. glad to see

it wasn't something I said.

Yup. past childbearing here, but still. I used BC for its intended purpose, to prevent pregnancy. Not going to apologize or feel shamed for it. I do put it in perspective for the idiots... If I had not used birth control, I would have had at least 15-20 kids. Wouldn't you like 20 of mes running around?

[wryter2000]

46. I didn't find myself listed there

But I did see some of the most sexist shit for advertising on the home page. Yeeesh.

[theHandpuppet]

47. Fortunately I wasn't there long enough to notice

But it doesn't surprise me at all. Cootie Cave needs a serious dose of industrial strength disinfectant.

[wryter2000]

48. It was on Discussionist

Blech.

[theHandpuppet]

49. I'll pass.

Thanks for the warning!

[ismnotwasm]

52. So they sit around and talk shit?

Dumb and a monumental waste of time.