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[ColinC]

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[Murphyb849]

1. Prop him on his side so if he vomits he won't aspirate. That's the big risk right now.

And you are doing the right thing and you could have saved his life. I took care of too many alcohol poisonings and not all make it.

[ColinC]

3. The first two times he vomited he was upright on the couch. I just moved him on his side

He seems to be more conscious, giving me a thumbs up when I move him and waving at my dog who seems equally concerned as me. I propped him to his side, but his legs are bent and he went back to sleep. He coughed a couple times. Pillows propping him on his side so he can't roll back over. I am not going to sleep tonight.

[Murphyb849]

5. Everyone should have a friend like you 😊

[ColinC]

6. Thanks! Do you second the guy at the bottom to take him to he emergency room?

He cannot get up on his own, so doing so would mean calling the paramedics who are rather busy tonight. Again his breathing is normal and he is responsive when I wake him.

On edit: he also isn't letting me give him water, which worries me about the alcohol concentration worsening.

[Murphyb849]

9. Let him sleep it off in a safe position.

He already vomited more than once and will drink when he is wide awake. He will have nuclear dry mouth. And if he wants to get shit faced again I recommend beer because usually you vomit before you reach alcohol poison level. The hard alcohol is deadly.

[ColinC]

11. Thanks!

He vomited 3 times i think. just noticed his skin is slightly cool to the touch, still breathing normally, same position on his side. Just staying up watching him until he gets up to drink some water...


Definitely gonna go with beer next time lol

[AZ8theist]

25. WHAT THE FUCK??? CALL 911, DON'T POST ON DU LOOKING FOR MEDICAL ADVICE!!!

[Lochloosa]

2. Google is your friend

Ensure the intoxicated individual is sleeping on their side with a pillow behind them to prevent them from rolling on their back. This will prevent them from choking on their vomit.

https://healthengine.com.au/info/alcohol-how-to-help-a-drunk-person#:~:text=Ensure%20the%20intoxicated%20individual%20is,swim%20or%20ride%20a%20bike.

[ColinC]

13. Thanks. Got the pillows there.

He has been sleeping soundly but did vomit a couple times. but if one more person says call 911, I'm doing it.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

4. Ummm, why not taken him to the nearest emergency room?

Not doing so is playing games with his life.

[Rhiannon12866]

10. That would also be my advice, he needs to be seen by a doctor

There's likely to be a detox unit at a hospital and he may need meds to detox. This does sound like an emergency. Good luck!

[ColinC]

12. I am very seriously considering calling 911. He is telling me not to

But I suppose his judgement is obviously something that shouldn't be taken into consideration at this point.

[Rhiannon12866]

14. I've been there myself, I went through detox in 2008.

I registered nothing when they tested me, though I had drank that day. I was grateful to be admitted mainly because I knew the worst part was coming, it's tough to detox without some kind of meds. That said, I've now been sober for 12 years, but I know lots of others that have gone through it and even with medication, I have never felt so awful in my life, so I'm speaking from experience - and it sounds like your friend is in much worse shape than I was...

[empedocles]

15. A friend had drunk serious amount of vodka. We took him to ER.

My best recollection was that they 'pumped' his stomach.

[Rhiannon12866]

16. I've known people admitted for alcohol poisoning before and they definitely don't send them home

Right away. This guy may have vomited, but it's still in his bloodstream and he's going to have a severe reaction when it starts to wear off.

[ColinC]

17. What kind of reaction?

He is sleeping normally in a safe recovery position and has vomited in his sleep a total of four times.... Im just sitting here watching him, but don't want to strain emergency services (who are very busy) unless it is absolutely necessary.

[Rhiannon12866]

18. Withdrawl.

Shakes, heart racing, feeling like you're going to jump out of your skin. The reaction to make it stop might be to drink even more - which is obviously the worst idea since it'll definitely be worse the next time he stops.

[ColinC]

19. Yeah I'm not gonna drink with him ever again. Actually this incident might have convinced me

To stop drinking entirely.

[ColinC]

20. I will also be strongly convincing him to seek additional help to get himself off alcohol....

I have a close friend who is a nurse practitioner. I called him immediately but his availability at 3am was lacking. He will likely call me back as soon as he wakes up. But until that happens, I'm gonna just stay close to this guy until he wakes up and drinks some water...

[Rhiannon12866]

22. Well, I still think he's likely to need medication to get him through withdrawal

And that requires medical supervision. I may sound like an alarmist, but the first time I went through withdrawal, even with medication, it was three days of hell, nothing helped. The second time, many years later, I was hospitalized, but it still took me awhile to quit entirely. It's not easy, but I had a lot of help, so I try to pay it forward.

[TNNurse]

7. Tell him about it all when he wakes up.

Describe in detail how he was and how it made you feel.

Make it real to him.

[ColinC]

8. Absolutely. Right now I just want to make sure he wakes up in the best way possible lol

(vomit covered shirt notwithstanding)

[dixiechiken1]

21. Please keep us posted and let us know if he - and you - come through this okay. Please?

[ColinC]

24. Definitely will!

He is sleeping soundly. I put a blanket on him to help him with any lowered body temperature. His breathing continues to be normal and he continues to be responsive when I try to talk to him. I may head to sleep shortly if I don't see any more vomiting or deteriorating condition.

[ColinC]

33. Called 911. He is fine and turned down services.

Thanks for the concern!

[3Hotdogs]

23. Call fukin 911. If it turns out that you waited too long to call, what are you going to do?

Do you know when "too long" is?

[Danmel]

26. Call 911

We have all heard about kids who die after hazing.
We were on the board of directors of a local youth orchestra. One of our scholarships was in memory of an extremely bright, exceptionally talented young man who died of alcohol poisoning after a hazing Incidentb at a very prestigious university.
Don't take chances.

[left-of-center2012]

27. If he died without you calling 911 earlier for help ...

I wonder if you could be held criminally responsible.

[Rhiannon12866]

30. And it is possible to die from too much alcohol

My neighbor had a classmate who died from drinking too much at once on graduation weekend. We hear more about drugs these days, but alcohol can kill as well.

[ColinC]

32. They came. He refused medical services and emts said that he was fine after they checked him.

I'm honestly glad I did it than not.

[left-of-center2012]

28. Maybe you should have cut off his alcohol earlier?

That would have been a real friend, rather than let him drink himself near death.

[Loki Liesmith]

29. That's super helpful right now

[Warpy]

31. Vomiting likleluy saved him this time

Just make sure he's on his side so if he's sick again, he won't breathe it in.

In alcohol poisoning, you can't wake them up. That's when you call 911. A call when he was incapable of getting out of the chair wouldn't have been out of place, although he'd have turned down the help since he was arousable.

Let him know he scared the hell out of you. He's probably not going to listen but it's something he needs to know.

Edit: I see you're planning on not drinking with him again. That's probably a good idea, it seems like he doesn't have an "off" switch. It's not a matter of protecting him from himself, which doesn't work, it's a matter of protecting yourself from liability.

[ColinC]

34. Called 911. They checked him up. He's fine.

Going to sleep now. Thanks for the concern and input!

[Ligyron]

35. Is he normally a heavy drinker?

Or is this just a rare night where he overindulged?

Most everyday, long term heavy drinkers usually learn to avoid taking in more than their body can handle having learned the hard way what will happen.

[ColinC]

36. I don't know for sure, but I think it is just a rare night where he overindulged.

[Ligyron]

37. Yeah, it kind of sounds like that to me.

Hopefully he will have learned his lesson.