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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:43 PM Mar 2013

A plea to new DU'ers

Hi, I'm Steve and I've been here almost 9 years now. As you will notice, I don't post as much as some. There's a reason for this. I consider DU to be for three main purposes: 1) dissemination of accurate political and other information; 2) discussion of this information; and 3) the possibility of changing one's mind about this information/topic/issue. Of course, fun is always a possibility too. I like to read the debates and *possibly* change my mind. I have changed my mind on several issues and I'm open to changing my mind again. I like to be wrong in private

My plea: It might be human nature to be closed-minded. It's certainly a common human condition, if it's not "human nature". Open your mind to new opinions and new viewpoints. I have. It's enriching. At the bare minimum, you will understand the "other side" of the argument better. You might even make a "DU friend", who might eventually become a real life friend.

That's it. I'm trying to be open-minded and I've been wrong before. Have a wonderful DU experience.

Steve

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A plea to new DU'ers (Original Post) steve2470 Mar 2013 OP
Good advice IrishAyes Mar 2013 #1
Radical openmindedness is part of being an intelligent leftist Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #2
good post, thank you steve2470 Mar 2013 #3
I totally agree, great post! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #4
totally agree olddots Mar 2013 #5
Great thread! CPX7700 Mar 2013 #6
Welcome to DU, CPX7700! Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #7
Hello ~ CPX7700. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #8
Understood Danthemanleft Mar 2013 #9
I thought liberals, by our very nature, were open-minded? scottbeamer Apr 2013 #10
Humanity LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #11
Welcome to DU. There is no policy about posting to older threads. dballance Apr 2013 #12
Thanks for the advice. The_arts_the_vision Apr 2013 #13
Welcome to Du my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #14
sir yes sir wet.hen88 Apr 2013 #15
We're all critical thinkers, right? EarthConscious Apr 2013 #16
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Apr 2013 #17
welcome to DU! TeamPooka Apr 2013 #18
Welcome LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #19
thanks, kind of you steve2470 Jun 2013 #21
LOL Skittles Sep 2015 #40
Well I try very hard to be open minded... Jasana Apr 2013 #20
ok AuroraB Jun 2013 #22
Good advice PsychoBunny Jun 2013 #23
it will be, I promise nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #24
Thanks steve2470 rgk7 Jun 2013 #25
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin Jun 2013 #26
Welcome to DU ! nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #27
Thanks Peaceplace80 Jul 2013 #28
nice post marym625 Jul 2013 #29
Add a libertarian democrat to the ranks! drizzit Jul 2013 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #31
kick nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #32
Good advice to take. Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #33
Now that's weird, how did I start with 0 posts? Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #34
Well, you can't seem to get your name right. Why should your post count be any different? Make7 Sep 2015 #35
What? n/t ColesCountyDem Sep 2015 #37
Not a Simpsons fan? herding cats Sep 2015 #39
But...but.. that's my real name.. Brock Kentman Sep 2015 #38
Welcome to DU! herding cats Sep 2015 #36
It's easy to be conservative... Bernin4U Oct 2015 #41
Older post > two years ago and... l.o.o.s.e.e-2 Dec 2015 #42

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
2. Radical openmindedness is part of being an intelligent leftist
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:37 AM
Mar 2013

Consider all things carefully.
Accept nothing upon faith.
Doubt the established order.

Political or philosophical discussions should never feel "reassuring." That's one of the main symptoms of conservative "discussion." There is no room for debate. They spend the entire time patting themselves on the backs. Usually for doing despicable things.

What makes us different as progressive people is our willingness to respect other intelligent opinion not simply because it has a right to exist but also because you might very well be incorrect.

The concept of being incorrect is not really an acceptable position when it comes to conservatives. The beliefs they were taught as young, ignorant children are what they grasp on to their entire lives. This is why xenophobia and group-think are so common among the "right." It's arrested development.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
3. good post, thank you
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:37 AM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 11, 2013, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

That deserves an OP all of its own.

OP = original post to a thread you make, perhaps in General Discussion (GD) or in Politics 2013 or maybe even in Good Reads.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
5. totally agree
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:40 PM
Mar 2013

I was here a long time ago and the board has grown which means more ideas to absorb and learn from.Things heated up during primaries and I hope we learn from it,come out better friends and stronger as a party .

Rhiannon12866

(204,724 posts)
7. Welcome to DU, CPX7700!
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 04:24 AM
Mar 2013

And some of us are more radical than others, LOL. We have a pretty wide range of center to far left Democrats here. It's great to have you with us!

scottbeamer

(1 post)
10. I thought liberals, by our very nature, were open-minded?
Wed Apr 17, 2013, 07:18 PM
Apr 2013

I'd like to be introduced to a close-minded liberal. Do they exist?

LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
11. Humanity
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:50 AM
Apr 2013

Hi, my first post here as well.

OP (if you are still reading this post as March 7 was a while back >.> ), I wanted to say that I completely agree.

I think the best way to avoid being closed minded is to try and remember that the person you are talking to/chatting with/ debating is a human being too. A human with feelings, pride, hopes, and dreams. A person who is more than likely has the best of intentions and trying explaining what they believe is best. They are neither stupid or evil.

Of course, when discussing issues you feel passionate about, its easy to forget that. I know that in the past I have let my own passions blind me, but its not about how often we fail to live up to our own expectations, but rather how often we get back up and try again, right?


PS: Is there any type of policy here about responding to old threads? IE Necromancy? I know other forums I have been to have had policies against it, but couldn't find anything here talking about that. This thread looked like a good thread to make my first post in but the OP is over a month old...though the post before mine is from a couple of days ago >.>

If so, sorry >.<

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
12. Welcome to DU. There is no policy about posting to older threads.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 06:02 AM
Apr 2013

If someone signs up and starts posting nastygrams to older threads they will arise suspicion about them possibly being a troll.

13. Thanks for the advice.
Sun Apr 21, 2013, 10:01 AM
Apr 2013


This is my first post...and I am glad I came across this before I posted anything. Thanks!
16. We're all critical thinkers, right?
Thu Apr 25, 2013, 10:55 PM
Apr 2013

Holding to beliefs "just because" is one of the worst traits of humanity. Your post should be stuck to the top.

New here, but not new to the realities of the world, I henceforth dub thee Steve the Sage, at least for this post.

Marc

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
40. LOL
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:20 PM
Sep 2015

there are plenty of non-critical thinkers here, and they have a penchant for hanging out in GROUPS -oh yes

Jasana

(490 posts)
20. Well I try very hard to be open minded...
Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:14 AM
Apr 2013

but sometimes there are just things you get stuck on and you need a little patience. For right now, I am mostly staying away from the debates. I figure once I get to know DU better I may wade into the more rambunctious threads.
Thanks for your advice. Hope to see you on the boards.

rgk7

(4 posts)
25. Thanks steve2470
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:34 AM
Jun 2013

I am new to DU. In reading many posts here, I believe I have found a place of like minded individuals that will help subside my escalating displeasure with mankind. Thanks for your comments of "open mindedness", I will proceed with caution

marym625

(17,997 posts)
29. nice post
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:28 AM
Jul 2013

Great advice for anyone. Though, personally, I know everything I think is the best in all situations.
Seriously, Thank you. Too often tend to be defensive. Great reminder.

drizzit

(9 posts)
30. Add a libertarian democrat to the ranks!
Fri Jul 19, 2013, 10:36 AM
Jul 2013

This is my first post and I've been a Republican my entire voting life. I would even say I swing toward the libertarian extreme. But within the last decade the Republican party has started scaring the hell out of me. I'm not sure if I'm just getting older and wiser, or they are really getting that bad. I voted against Obama his first term, but after seeing how the right began systematically pecking away at his administration, and sabotaging anything that would make genuine improvements, I was disgusted and ashamed. Obama got my vote his second term. I believe in the principals the GOP used to stand for, but they have shifted so much I just can't associate with them anymore. All of the racism and hatred seems to gravitate toward that side, and I can't tell you how much more intelligent and open-minded the posts are here.

I still can't say I can agree with everything the Democrats do, but anyone who agrees with their chosen party 100% is likely a brainwashed minion. I would know.

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
36. Welcome to DU!
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 02:35 PM
Sep 2015

Looks like you hit a glitch on the post numbers. I'm sorry about that.

Have fun exploring the site!

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
41. It's easy to be conservative...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:29 PM
Oct 2015

("Conservative" by at least one common definition)

"The glasses around here all used to be half full. Now they've all gone half empty."

Being open minded (progressive) takes work.

 

l.o.o.s.e.e-2

(53 posts)
42. Older post > two years ago and...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

... especially appreciated in the "current climate".

"Open your mind to new opinions and new viewpoints. I have. It's enriching. At the bare minimum, you will understand the "other side" of the argument better."

Thank you steve2470.

Regards,
l.o.o.s.e.e-2

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