Are blocked members able to alert in a group? Are blacklist jurors able to alert on your posts?

[NYC_SKP]

I think the answer is no, but I might be wrong.

Or the answers might be yes and no.

In any event, I think it might be a good feature for admins to consider.

[In_The_Wind]

1. I think the answer to both of your questions is ... yes.

[NYC_SKP]

2. Hi In_The_Wind....

I've heard from a couple members in groups I host who got hides for very poor reasons after exchanges with members who are now blocked.

Group hosts can only block members but only after the damage is done, and those blocked members can continue to harass through the alert system.

I hope admins will try to think of some simple solutions.

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. Groups can block as many people as they wish, but posts therein are still subject to the DU SOP. n/t

So yes, and I would recommend against changing that.

[NYC_SKP]

5. You might misunderstand the problem here. SOP violations are for hosts, CS are for juries.

Hosts can block members, but that blocking doesn't prevent the blocked members from trolling the group, alerting on posts they think are violations.

Juries, unlike mods, do not consistently act or adhere to the rules and plenty of hides come from juror error, personal bias, etc.

Never mind the number of alerts that come in that should never have been made in the first place.

I propose that blocked members should be barred from alerting on posts and replies in the groups from which they are blocked.

I further think that a member on another member's jury block list should be prevented from alerting on the member blocking them.

It's totally doable.

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. Thanks, I meant to type TOS rather than SOP.

I can see both sides. Personally, I know with some confidence that 80% of the alerts on me come from the same three or four people, who are coincidentally the top four spots on my jury blacklist. Luckily, despite being excellent writers worthy of Pulitzer prizes for fiction, their collective success rate is about 10%.

That said, I don't think that groups should become the rule-exempt zones that a 30 or 40 member long block list would enable.

So I think that the answers to your questions *should* be yes and no, respectively.

[In_The_Wind]

4. Hi NYC_SKP

I believe what you're saying to be true but I doubt if there is a simple solution to the problem.

Haters are gonna hate.

A disrupter is gonna cause grief any way they can.

Stalking and bullying are difficult problems to solve.

[Joe Worker]

7. Hi Skip

Could you or someone please explain what a "juror" is and why they can censor or hide an opinion post? The site is a problem to navigate and I am already gaining the opinion that this is a very unfriendly site. Differences in opinion with "no explanation"???? I simply made the statement that; "stupidity should be banned" (in regard to a firearms issue) and one juror claimed I was calling someone stupid and the other three had "no explanation" (At least three of these "jurors" understood there was no violation of the TOS.)

Thanks

[NYC_SKP]

8. I still remember my first hidden reply, many years ago when we had moderators.

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Then I became a moderator, stayed one until DU replaced us with anonymous jurors.

Anyone, even a troll, can be a juror and it's anonymous. Anyone who pays $5 for star membership might be on your jury.

Anyway, jurors will hate on members with low post counts, and if they say something unkind to a friend.

They might vote without reading the context, and just assume you were calling another member stupid when you weren't.

I can't explain why they do that, but I know it was more consistent and less mean when we just had moderators.

Stick around, it's a nice place, check out all the special interest pages, computers, photography, or just joke around in the Lounge.

We aren't always so serious!

[Make7]

9. Links to explanations of jury duty on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=modsystem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=0&v=BhaJWw2F_kg   (5 minute video showing the process for a juror)

[Joe Worker]

10. Thanks for

the links