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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2013, 03:08 PM Mar 2013

Alliance representatives ejected from Post-Fukushima seismic workshop!

http://a4nr.org/?p=2587&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+A4nrorg+%28a4nr.org%29

Just got this in my email:

Only one week after the second anniversary of the tragic nuclear disaster at Fukushima, A4NR attorney John Geesman, consulting seismologist Dr. Douglas Hamilton, and A4NR outreach coordinator David Weisman were asked to leave the Ground Motion Characterization workshop for the nuclear power plants in the western United States. These (ratepayer funded) workshops are an integral part of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s post-Fukushima requirements to update seismic hazards at nuclear reactors. Read our press release:


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Alliance representatives ejected from Post-Fukushima seismic workshop! (Original Post) Cleita Mar 2013 OP
"the other utility co-sponsors had insisted that attendence be restricted" bananas Mar 2013 #1
Two other utilities. FBaggins Mar 2013 #2
APS? They're in Arizona. bananas Mar 2013 #3
SONGS wasn't the only topic FBaggins Mar 2013 #4
Was that a reason not to let them participate? Cleita Mar 2013 #5
They obviously thought so. FBaggins Mar 2013 #6
Considering they are activists, not journalists, maybe their Cleita Mar 2013 #7
It isn't really an issue of "standards" FBaggins Mar 2013 #8
Well, if you think nuke plants are the way to go then Cleita Mar 2013 #9

bananas

(27,509 posts)
1. "the other utility co-sponsors had insisted that attendence be restricted"
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:56 AM
Mar 2013

I wonder who the other co-sponsors are?

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
4. SONGS wasn't the only topic
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:13 AM
Mar 2013

There were three plants involved in the workshop. Palo Verde NGS is in Arizona

And what are they trying to hide?

They don't have to be "hiding" anything to want to avoid disruption.

Likely, A4NR wanted Dr. Hamilton to debate ground motion models that were used and the announcement for the meeting specifically said that they would not be discussing or defending those models at that hearing - but at a later one instead.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. Was that a reason not to let them participate?
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:20 AM
Mar 2013

I got the impression they were escorted out before anything started, not because they disrupted anything.

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
6. They obviously thought so.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:45 AM
Mar 2013

If you have a meeting with 80 invited participants and someone else shows up (with lawyer) who has a history with prior meetings... wouldn't that be a reason?

The requirement for this meeting (unlike what their attorney claims) is that proceedings be publicly available. That could be by transcript or audio/video recording. It wasn't a meeting for public comment or debate (as was laid out in the announcement - again unlike what their attorney claimed). If they have no defined participatory role, then making such records available is all that's necessary. They obviously wanted to be there to put their position forward, and this wasn't the forum for it.

I got the impression they were escorted out before anything started

If they got in at all. It's hard to tell, as their press release is filled with weasel words (such as the nonsense about it being ratepayer funded.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. Considering they are activists, not journalists, maybe their
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:10 PM
Mar 2013

press releases aren't up to your high standards. However, they have done an excellent job of investigating, gathering information and exposing the real weasels in this problem, the energy giants of Duke Energy and P. G. & E.. I have been following the work they have done about El Diablo for a couple of years now.

I take it you are pro-nuclear energy?

FBaggins

(26,693 posts)
8. It isn't really an issue of "standards"
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:39 PM
Mar 2013

It's that they're being intentionally deceptive in their wording for propaganda purposes.

I take it you are pro-nuclear energy?

In most cases, yes.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Well, if you think nuke plants are the way to go then
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:46 PM
Mar 2013

I see why you would consider them subversive. I myself live under the volcano, but instead of magma, we are talking radiation fall out here, and the first big earthquake and tsunami we have, it's all over with. These activists are trying to prevent it. It doesn't just mean that our community here on the coast of California will become a toxic wasteland but fallout from it will affect the ocean and a good part of the USA.

Because these energy companies are trying to influence any way of shutting down these nuke plants, I really feel that the activists are doing hero's work. If you want to call it propaganda, it's your prerogative.

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