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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:07 PM

4 Pro-Gun Arguments We're Sick of Hearing

Shootings in the U.S. are too often met with arguments for why we can't do anything about gun control:

Every time there's a shooting in the news, right-wing pundits and politicians dust off their talking points to explain why the latest gun tragedy doesn't mean the U.S. should tighten up access to deadly firearms.

Well, guys, I hate to break it to you, but we heard you the first time. And the second time. And the hundreds of times since that our country has grappled with an individual eager to take out as many lives as possible with a firearm. We can recite your arguments in our sleep, and they haven't grown better through repetition.

1. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

This is a fantastic argument for those who can't tell the difference between one death and a dozen. Absolutely, a murderer can often kill one person or two with a knife before being stopped. But to really rack up those mind-blowing death counts to make sure that many lives are destroyed and families ruined in the space of five or 10 minutes you need a gun. If all you care about is apportioning blame and declaring that someone does or does not have murderous intent, then by all means, claim a knife and a gun are equivalent weapons. For those of us who are more worried about preventing unnecessary deaths than merely acknowledging the hate that resides in some people's hearts, however, the sheer amount of damage a gun can do is reason to limit who can get their hands on one.


With today's horrific mass shooting, the gun defenders are already spreading the same old nonsense that they always do when defending their precious. Some of the other arguments are:

2. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

If you prefer pithy sayings to hard evidence, I can see why this would be convincing. But if you look at the real world, you'll find that far from being our only hope, good guys with guns are barely any help at all. No mass shootings in the past 30 years have been stopped by an armed civilian; in 1982, an armed civilian successfully killed a shooter, but it was only after he committed his crime.

3. "But, mental health!"

Opponents of gun control love bringing up the problem of inadequate mental health care after a shooting. This is strictly for deflection purposes, as there is no indication that Republicans will ever work on meaningful reform for our mental health systems which, it's true are woefully inadequate. It's an issue that only matters to them in the immediate aftermath of a shooting then it's forgotten, until there's another shooting. Rinse, repeat.

4. "Second Amendment, baby."

Here's a good time to remind everyone that the Second Amendment was written by slaveholders before we had electricity, much less the kind of weaponry that would-be murderers can buy today.

Sincere condolences to the families and friends of those killed and wounded in the Florida nightclub massacre, and to the gunners who are busy assisting the ALEC/NRA/ILA damage control efforts: fuck you.

Support gun control in any way that you can, and help to put a stop to this madness.

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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 03:46 PM

1. 5 Found Shot to Death in New Mexico Home

I wonder which one of the above arguments the NRA apologists will use to defend this other mass shooting today?

Police say five people, including four children, have been found shot to death in a New Mexico home and the suspect is at large.

Roswell police spokesman Todd Wildermuth says a relative checking on the house around 11:15 p.m. Saturday discovered the bodies.

Wildermuth says authorities were searching for a male suspect Sunday but did not immediately identify him.

According to Wildermuth, the victims include one teenager and three younger children. Police have not released the identities of the five people who they believe are related.


The Second Amendment absolutists are out in force today defending their sacred "rights" and performing damage control, but people keep on dying from gun violence. The common denominator in all of these tragedies is: a gun. It is not possible to control people, but it IS possible to control the acquisition and use of guns.

Support gun control and demand stronger gun regulation from our representatives.

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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:34 AM

2. K&R.

A thousand times.

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