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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:13 PM Dec 2019

Children are murded in schools because of a Constitutional Amendment that

makes it easy to murder children in schools.

Or anywhere else, for that matter.

First, the title is a rewording taken from Quichotte, by Salman Rushdie, but it is so brutal, so fitting, that I borrowed it for this short piece.

And to be fair, the Second Amendment, in my view, was never intended to allow for personal, in home ownership of guns by everyone. But Antonin Scalia, that darling of the so-called originalist school, claimed to find that right hidden in the actual words of an Amendment that never mentions any such right.

Part of Scalia's secret formula for this discovery was to redact 1/2 of the original words written by the framers so he could claim to find this individual right in words that actually linked the limited right to membership in a well-regulated militia.

And in consequence, we have children being murdered in schools so weapons manufacturers can profit from their deaths. In this vicious circle of violence, each shooting prompts gun owners to buy more guns and prompts right wing legislators to pass more Bills designed to make it even easier for people to bring guns into schools.

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keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
1. To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry p
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:08 PM
Dec 2019

To the gun industry, dead children are merely collateral damage/acceptable losses for gun industry profits and political donations.

Joe The Plumber: ‘Your Dead Kids Don’t Trump My Constitutional Rights’ To Have Guns

Ironic how he chose that verb back in 2014

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html

Karadeniz

(22,513 posts)
2. I usually like Ali Velshi on economic matters, but he recently interviewed 3 hunters or
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:50 PM
Dec 2019

Gun enthusiasts from Wisconsin maybe. He asked a lot of questions and all the answers were what you'd fear. Ali takes people down for incorrect financial facts, so I kept waiting for his last question to be, "And what well-regulated militia do each of you belong to?" It never came.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. In my view, the NRA always plays to the fear of a certain minority,
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:57 PM
Dec 2019

(and gun owners are a minority), that they will be oppressed by some enemy.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
5. Children aren't murdered by a Constitutional Amendment
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:49 AM
Dec 2019

They are murdered by politicians and justices (scalia) who distort the amendment to appease the gun manufactures.

 

JH7DF5J

(3 posts)
7. One of the most effective ways to stop mass shootings
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 02:27 AM
Dec 2019

i think would be to make it illegal for MSM to cover it. Mass shooters want to be on national tv. They want people to know about their ideas and their "manifest".

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. How do you "make it illegal" for the free press to cover something? The First Amendment:
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:14 AM
Dec 2019
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.




That really sounds like the philosphy of an autocrat, not a society that allows freedom of the press...

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. So again... how do you go about criminalizing journalists for reporting on an event
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 09:23 PM
Dec 2019

without becoming what Trump is, and violating the First Amendment, and therefore overrulling the Constitution?

That's what dictators do.

The First Amendment doesn't make exceptions for journalists who report on events you don't want them to, nor does it criminalize ownership of a news entity by a for-profit entity, no matter how large.

This is what the FoxNews viewership wants for the rest of the media that reports on events and revelations about Trump that enrage them. They see THAT as evidence that the media is "corrupt," and "un-Christian" and "Evil"

Are you sure that you want be banging that drum along with them?





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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. Welcome to DU.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:39 AM
Dec 2019

The most effective way is to make gun ownership dependent on being in a well regulated militia.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
15. Welcome to DU.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

The best examples of well regulated militias are the National Guard and the armed forces.

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