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applegrove

(118,492 posts)
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:11 PM Jan 2020

In Red America, No One Is Too Far Gone For Gun Ownership

In Red America, No One Is Too Far Gone For Gun Ownership

We've been told that the church shooting in White Settlement, Texas, was ended quickly by a good guy with a gun, but the real story is different.

By Steve M.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/01/red-america-no-one-too-far-gone-gun

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Though he had been to the church before, Mr. Kinnunen aroused suspicion among members of the security team on Sunday when he walked in wearing a trench coat and what looked like a fake beard. He tailed a family as they entered the church, which immediately brought attention his way.

“He walked across the parking lot to get into the building, and normally we don’t have a lot of people walk from down the road,” [John] Robertson, [a] church elder, said....

Mr. Kinnunen asked where the restroom was and then returned a few minutes later, [church security team leader Jack] Wilson said. “We were concerned,” he said. One of the church’s security cameras was soon trained directly on him, and [Richard] White, who was part of the security team, also stationed himself behind him. Mr. Wilson stood near a back wall several feet away.

“I could see his right hand at all times.” Mr. Wilson said. “I was concerned because I could not see his left hand.”

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Yep. If the so-called "Security Guards" were worth a darn, they would have
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jan 2020

gotten him out of there before people were killed.

Unfortunately, the NRA training instructor -“security guard” — didn’t know how to stop the shooting without using a gun.

While I’m glad they got Kinnunen, they could/should have taken him out before he pulled his shotgun out from under his trench coat.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
2. I think they should have patted him down. I agree with you. But not everyone
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jan 2020

who is very bad walks around looking menacing.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Would be much easier to identify someone with a gun, if so many didn't have them.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jan 2020

I suspect metal detectors at a Texas church would sound like Ring Them Bells.

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