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Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:25 AM

Molly Ivins on Gun Control



From her 1993 essay "Taking a Stab at Our Infatuation with Guns" (The Seattle Times, March 15, 1993), she begins by saying:

Let me start this discussion by pointing out that I am not anti-gun. I'm pro-knife. Consider the merits of the knife. In the first place, you have catch up with someone in order to stab him. A general substitution of knives for guns would promote physical fitness. We'd turn into a whole nation of great runners. Plus, knives don't ricochet. And people are seldom killed while cleaning their knives. As a civil libertarian, I of course support the Second Amendment. And I believe it means exactly what it says: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Fourteen-year-old boys are not part of a well-regulated militia. Members of wacky religious cults are not part of a well-regulated militia. Permitting unregulated citizens to have guns is destroying the security of this free state. I am intrigued by the arguments of those who claim to follow the judicial doctrine of original intent. How do they know it was the dearest wish of Thomas Jefferson's heart that teen-age drug dealers should cruise the cities of this nation perforating their fellow citizens with assault rifles? Channelling?

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930315&slug=1690536

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This facebook post came to mind when I read Molly's riff on how "permitting unregulated citizens to have guns is destroying the security of this free state":

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SunSeeker Apr 2013 OP
freshwest Apr 2013 #1
sheshe2 Apr 2013 #2
Hoyt Apr 2013 #3
dem in texas Apr 2013 #4
Hangingon Apr 2013 #10
Name removed Apr 2013 #5
nightscanner59 Apr 2013 #6
Bolo Boffin Apr 2013 #7
nightscanner59 Apr 2013 #8
Paladin Apr 2013 #9
ellisonz Apr 2013 #11
LeftInTX Apr 2013 #12
SunSeeker Apr 2013 #13
aikoaiko Apr 2013 #14
aikoaiko Apr 2013 #15
locks Apr 2013 #16

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:38 AM

1. Molly always got right down to it. Thanks for this.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:47 AM

2. Molly Ivans.

My Idol.

Sweet, SunSeeker! Very sweet!

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:49 AM

3. Pretty much covers the issue as far as I'm concerned.

The image at the end is good too.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:50 AM

4. Bravo Molly

She was a Texas original and is sorely missed.

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Response to dem in texas (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:35 AM

10. FYI

Molly Ivens was born in Monterrey CA

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 03:55 AM

6. I love it... Say, D.U.er's-- check this out

I've been responding to some of the gun rights polls on a site called SodaHead-- it's loaded with the most insane right wingers. I swear, look at the blog tonight from this question and get a load of the "Gub-mint's the beast, Obama's the 666 and they're all comin' to git mah guns" sort!! To which I reply: seek help. your area has no lack of therapists, competent and otherwise. Please post your adress, I'll send the agents to come take your guns post haste.
I and other reasonable responders there are often outnumbered by the crazies:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/will-it-take-more-mass-killings-to-get-congress-serious-about-gun-control/question-3617413/?link=1018208&uuid=9678f44243cb416da289b476303583b8

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Response to nightscanner59 (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:51 AM

7. I just tell folks like this to go to their houses and wait for Obama to show up.

"Someone will be along to collect your guns directly. No, no, just tough it out. Don't leave until they do show up. And stay off the Internet if you can help it."

Yes, I have far too many relatives that I've said this to.

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Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:55 AM

8. ROFL. Oh, if only the real issue wasn't so deadly serious... but that's hilarious.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:24 AM

9. Molly Ivins remains a treasure.


I had the pleasure of meeting her during my college days in Austin. Her words as to what the 2nd Amendment REALLY means ring truer than ever, present-day.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:54 AM

11. That's about it. I still do not accept the "individual right" argument. n/t

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:24 PM

12. Thanks to Sunseeker and FreshWest! I just discovered this group!

FreshWest had an awesome Molly Ivins post in media and Sunseeker x-posted this. I had no idea there was a Gun Control Group.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 04:39 PM

13. You're welcome!

I'm new to this group too--well, it is a pretty new group to begin with. I look at it as the safe and sane alternative to the gungeoneers' "Gun Control & RKBA" group.

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Thu Apr 4, 2013, 05:29 PM

15. I apologize for the message above (if anyone saw it).

I didn't realize which group I was in.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:01 PM

16. Molly Ivins and Roger Ebert

I just posted on the thread with the great article by Roger Ebert. Molly Ivins and Roger came every year for decades to University of Boulder/Boulder Conference on World Affairs. They always managed to be on the same panels and all of us tried to get into them. Sometimes it was hard to hear because we were laughing so hard. They both loved Colorado and we will never forget them.

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