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iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:31 PM Oct 2015

Suicide by gun.

A little over 10 years ago my fathers live in girl friend killed herself with his gun. I'm not posting this to elicit any kind of sympathy, but just to tell a story about what happened concerning the gun shot. My father owned a snub-nosed .38 caliber revolver among many other guns. The 38 was the gun his girlfriend used to end her life. My father was a sleep, or passed-out is more likely. He had a major drinking problem and died from it back in 2006. Anyway, his girlfriend took the revolver and sat in a chair. The chair was kind of like a love seat for one person, or a section of couch if you will. It had a wooden frame all around and a large pillow type cushion as the back rest. She was sitting in the living room in the front of the townhouse with her back toward the front window. She took the gun and placed the barrel against her chest and fired. The round passed through her heart and killed her instantly from what the police had said. There was almost no blood at all when I got there later that night. After the round went through her it passed through the pillow, and the wooden frame on the back of the chair. It then went through the window and into a large ficus hedge. The round kept on going out across the yard, and it crossed the street. The police found it up in the front yard of the neighbors house across the street. There's really nothing good about this story, but it could have been much worse. Had someone been walking down the street at the time the gun went off, they too could have been seriously injured or even killed. I always cringe when someone tells me that they need a handgun for 'home protection'. If you squeeze the trigger, then you are responsible for the full trajectory of that round. You might 'shoot the bad guy', but you might also do serious harm to a loved one, or a neighbor who happens to be anywhere close by. Bullets can ricochet off of bones and end up going in all sorts of unintended directions. I was raised with guns in my home. I don't really ever remember not having them. My younger brother almost killed me with the same .38 way back in 1970 when I was 7, and he was only 5. Having a gun in your home only increases the chances that you or someone that you love will be shot. Guns are only good for protection if you are walking around on patrol, and ready to fire. Even then, you don't want to shoot if you live in a densely populated area. I have read that some folks think that suicide by gun should not be counted as a gun related death. I know two people that have killed themselves with guns, and I have to say I disagree. Having lived almost all of my 52 years with guns in my home, they never made me feel any safer. Guns were never a form of protection for me, they were just my dad's very dangerous toys.

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Suicide by gun. (Original Post) iscooterliberally Oct 2015 OP
Excellent iscooterliberally! wendylaroux Oct 2015 #1
I lived downstairs in a 4 plex. The unit upstairs kitty corner from me bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #2
That's how they work. iscooterliberally Oct 2015 #4
K&R! marym625 Oct 2015 #3
Not enough words to convey my sympathy. flamin lib Oct 2015 #5

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
2. I lived downstairs in a 4 plex. The unit upstairs kitty corner from me
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

lived a single mother and her two lil kids. She bought a gun to protect her she thought. She was disarming it and it went off. The bullet went through her window across the apt complex's street and into the wall of a upper unit across the street. If someone had been home there they may have been shot. It scared her so much that when the police arrived (she called them) she gave her gun to them. The police officer said to her that a five year old learned how to take the safety off and shot his lil sister.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
4. That's how they work.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:22 PM
Oct 2015

My first experience with a firearm was when my dad made me shoot one of his guns. It was out in the woods. He handed me a 9mm Luger to shoot. I was only 5 years old and had no idea what I was in for. I had no eye protection, nor any ear protection. I aimed the gun at a bottle sitting on a tree branch and squeezed the trigger. I was instantly blind and deaf from the experience. The gun went off, slammed into my forehead, and gave me a lump the size of a bottle cap right in the middle. I don't really remember the ride home after that, but I do remember my mom screaming at my dad as soon as she got a look at me. This only worsened my headache and I went to my room for a nap. I never served in the military because of my childhood experiences with firearms. I could take them apart and re-assemble them pretty quickly. I knew to keep the rounds away from the gun unless you were in a safe area to shoot. I have 3 big dogs, and a couple of bass guitars for home defense. From what I understand about the 2nd amendment is that it was really designed so that we the people could defend our government in case some despot, or cult leader tried to take over a town, or some area inside our country. This whole, 'arm yourself against the government' stuff is is for the birds. I don't really want to have to worry about protecting myself from invaders. I don't really have anything anyone wants to steal anyway. I don't want to shoot any of my neighbors, or anyone else for that matter. I have seen the results of gun shot wounds first hand. I know it's an old saying, but if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
5. Not enough words to convey my sympathy.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:09 PM
Oct 2015

Gun violence will touch one in three of us, if not personally through someone we know. An acquaintance kept a .22 in his bedside table. His teenage daughter, going through a rough time emotionally, used it to shoot herself in the chest. Missed the heart but pretty much ruined a lung. His military training taught him how to deal with a sucking chest wound so she survived. To add insult to injury the police had to bag his hands, covered in his little girl's blood, as exclusionary evidence.

One in three. That's a 100,000,000 people. You'd think someone in congress would pay attention.

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