Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:54 AM
mnhtnbb (30,511 posts)
The Imitation Game starring Benedict Cumberbatch
My husband wanted to go see this last night.
Fascinating story. We had seen an Enigma machine on display in London at Churchill's War Rooms last May when we were there. Some info: http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_enigma.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine I did not know anything about Alan Turing, although my husband had read a book about him. Benedict Cumberbatch's performance is superb. Really well done. Alan Turing: Sometimes it is the people no one imagines anything of who do the things that no one can imagine. Apparently, the relationship with Joan Clarke (Keira Knightley) is overdramatized, although they did have a short engagement. For some of the controversy surrounding the depiction of Turing's relationship with Joan Clarke: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346828/Film-WW2-codebreaker-Alan-Turing-attacked-biographer-exaggerating-love-affair-woman-gay-says-Keira-Knightley-glamorous.html And Keira Knightley's view about it: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/26/keira-knightley-imitation-game_n_6221196.html Anyone else see it?
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mnhtnbb | Dec 2014 | OP |
Hoppy | Dec 2014 | #1 | |
mcar | Dec 2014 | #2 | |
SMC22307 | Dec 2014 | #3 | |
question everything | Dec 2014 | #4 | |
mnhtnbb | Dec 2014 | #5 | |
question everything | Dec 2014 | #6 | |
mnhtnbb | Dec 2014 | #8 | |
question everything | Dec 2014 | #7 | |
ellenrr | Jan 2015 | #9 | |
AtomicKitten | Jan 2015 | #10 | |
bigwillq | Jan 2015 | #11 | |
Lex | Jan 2015 | #12 | |
Callmecrazy | Jan 2015 | #13 | |
bigwillq | Jan 2015 | #14 |
Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 12:28 PM
Hoppy (3,595 posts)
1. Tuesday is cheap night. I will see it then.
Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:33 PM
mcar (40,602 posts)
2. Just saw it today
A wonderful film. The performances were excellent all round.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:30 PM
SMC22307 (8,040 posts)
3. Haven't seen it yet, but it's in my Netflix queue...
because 1) the history is fascinating, and 2) Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:46 PM
question everything (45,055 posts)
4. We saw it a few days ago
Both the movie and the actor deserve an Oscar. (OK, we have not seen many movies these years..)
I found it interesting that when Joan showed up to the "test" after solving the puzzle, she was told that "secretaries should go upstairs." What I found touching was that after they broke the code, they had to decide how to handle it. And, of course, the fact that in many parts of the world, homosexuality is still considered a crime, punishable by death. |
Response to question everything (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:25 PM
mnhtnbb (30,511 posts)
5. I was curious about how the movie varied from the real story
and did a little on-line searching.
Joan ran in to considerable misogyny as a woman working in a 'man's' world. Apparently, there were very different pay scales for women--doing the same work--and she ended up being classified as having translation skills--even though she didn't--as a result of some of her male friends helping to do an end run around the pay scale inequities. And she was not nearly the 'looker' that Keira Knightley is. Typical Hollywood. I had a hard time following the story because it was back and forth so much in time, and I never really 'got' that it was an investigation into a burglary at Turing's apartment in the early 50's that 'uncovered' his homosexuality which resulted in the charges against him--and ultimately his suicide--even though all his war colleagues were aware of it. Talk about invasion of privacy! And by the way, no thanks for help with ending WW II. |
Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:55 PM
question everything (45,055 posts)
6. Lat month TIME magazine had a story about Alan Turing
The True Story of The Imitation Game
http://time.com/3609585/the-true-story-of-the-imitation-game/ Alan Turing’s first love, Christopher, died at a young age Ruling: Fact Alan Turing was a closeted gay man Ruling: Fact Joan Clarke is invited to Bletchley Park, the home of the government’s code breaking operation, after completing a crossword puzzle Ruling: Fiction Joan’s parents didn’t want her at Bletchley Ruling: Fiction Turing named the code breaking machine “Christopher” Ruling: Fiction John Cairncross threatens to expose Turing’s sexuality if Turing reveals he’s a spy Ruling: Fiction Turing asked Clarke to marry him Ruling: Fact The government thought Turing might be a Soviet spy Ruling: Fiction Turing underwent chemical castration after his conviction Ruling: Fact |
Response to question everything (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:03 PM
mnhtnbb (30,511 posts)
8. I don't read TIME so I missed it. But my on-line research
turned up the answers to all the fact/fiction items.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:56 PM
question everything (45,055 posts)
7. The Price of Genius
This is what I read in TIME, by Walter Isaccson
http://time.com/3596955/the-price-of-genius/ Alan Turing, the man who pioneered computing, also forced the world to question what it means to be human Alan Turing, the intellectual father of the modern computer, had a theory. He believed that one day machines would become so powerful that they would think just like humans. He even devised a test, which he called “the imitation game,” to herald the advent of computers that were indistinguishable from human minds. But as Benedict Cumberbatch’s performance in the new movie The Imitation Game shows, Turing’s heroic and tragic life provides a compelling counter to the concept that there might be no fundamental difference between our minds and machines. |
Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 09:38 AM
ellenrr (3,864 posts)
9. Saw it last night. loved it!
based on the book by Andrew Hodges: Alan Turing: The Enigma.
now I want to read the book. There was an interview with Hodges last week on NPR also on pacifica. The one on Pacifica can be heard here: https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/letters-politics-kpfa-94.1/id406769844?mt=2 Either 12/30 or 12/31 https://itunes.apple.com/nz/podcast/letters-politics-kpfa-94.1/id406769844?mt=2 |
Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 11:39 PM
AtomicKitten (46,585 posts)
10. My absolute favorite movie of the year.
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance was superb.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:26 PM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
11. I thought it was outstanding.
Cumberbatch was fantastic.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 12:16 AM
Lex (34,106 posts)
12. Saw it tonight. A terrific movie.
Brought a tear to my eye at the end.
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Response to mnhtnbb (Original post)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 11:38 AM
Callmecrazy (3,063 posts)
13. I watched from my sofa...
What a great movie.
After that I watched American Sniper. Another good movie. Great performance by Bradley Cooper, but the ending was kind of abrupt. You can find a lot of great movies for free at this site: http://www.thedarewall.com/tv/ . Go to the boxoffice pull down and browse all the available films. |
Response to Callmecrazy (Reply #13)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:52 PM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
14. I watch a lot of movies that way:
From my couch!
![]() But I watch on a different site. Watched Boyhood last night and started Wild today but didn't finish. LOVED BOYHOOD! I disliked the ending to American Sniper and I hated Sienna Miller. Thought it was good but not great. Cooper was outstanding. |