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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 03:41 PM Mar 2014

Greetings, all!

This discussion thread is pinned.

Welcome to the Appalachia Group! Come on in and sit a spell. We have much to discuss. I'm here because I've wanted a safe space on DU where those of us interested in all things Appalachia can share our ideas and opinions.

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Greetings, all! (Original Post) theHandpuppet Mar 2014 OP
Congratulations! In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #1
Congratulations on this new group. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #2
Great! get the red out Mar 2014 #3
Checking in, thanks for the PM! William769 Mar 2014 #4
I have some relatives that have lost their jobs in the coal mines... kentuck Mar 2014 #5
Yep, we have lots to discuss theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #6
I heart WV marions ghost Mar 2014 #7
Appalachia is more meaningful to me than Virginia, "the South," and even the nation carolinayellowdog Mar 2014 #8
This is awesome Tsiyu Mar 2014 #9
Appalachia gave my people a place when they arrived here. riqster Mar 2014 #10
This West Virginian thanks you, too. Staph Mar 2014 #11
West Virginia Group Host here. Lasher Mar 2014 #12
Transplanted Yank proReality Oct 2014 #13
appalachiablue pointed me this way... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #14
Welcome to our little corner of DU. greatlaurel Nov 2014 #15
Thank you awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #16
Pull up a chair and sit a spell theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #17

kentuck

(111,532 posts)
5. I have some relatives that have lost their jobs in the coal mines...
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:48 PM
Mar 2014

and they blame Obama and his environmental policies. They cannot be persuaded otherwise.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
6. Yep, we have lots to discuss
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 04:53 PM
Mar 2014

And some of that is addressing what drives the coal market and why so many folks have been brainwashed into thinking that Obama has taken their jobs.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
8. Appalachia is more meaningful to me than Virginia, "the South," and even the nation
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:55 PM
Mar 2014

I grew up on the coast and slowly moved westward across VA for 30 years, finally arriving within sight of the Blue Ridge just within the last year. But only as I get to Appalachia do I approach parts of the South that were Unionist in the Civil War, as the preponderance of my own ancestors Down East had been. As a DU oldtimer who joined in 2002, I had completely given up on participating here in the wake of the serial "blame the South," "LET them secede," "they're all Confederates" threads last fall. "Ethnically cleanse the majority of black Americans NOW, in order to punish the white Southerners of 1860 for seceding" was the demographic implication of all those "we'd be so much better off without all those Southerners" comments. The implicit subliminal racism of such rhetoric was excruciatingly obvious to me with a family heritage of mixed ancestry.

What is less obvious but perhaps more pervasive is disdain for Appalachia. Anti-South hatemongering is devoted to labeling entire states, including the blue one I live in, as Evil Other. Anti-Appalachia sentiment is a lot more insidious in that it occurs entirely within states as well as on a larger level. Appalachian portions of some states are very much looked down on by other parts of the same states. The only thing saving Appalachian folk from the "get rid of them all and improve the nation" rhetoric is that people seem less enthused about carving up multiple states to get rid of undesirables than doing so to the nation as a whole by selecting a bunch of contiguous states.

"The South" is about as diverse as "America" itself, and neither really evokes any strong sense of identification for me. But just the word Appalachia resonates as more fundamentally real than any state or national boundaries. I'm not willing to "fight for" America, or Virginia, least of all "the South," literally or figuratively. But Appalachia, I'm not just willing to fight for but in various ways AM fighting for, as a very beautiful place under serious environmental assault. It needs volunteers to fight for it.

So while the rest of DU can engage in trollery whenever geographical differences are discussed, this may be the one place where people can talk about REAL REGIONAL issues NOW without endless north-south bullshit which IMO is irrelevant and counterproductive in light of how much Appalachia is one place with its own set of issues.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
10. Appalachia gave my people a place when they arrived here.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:14 PM
Mar 2014

It's acceptable to determine your degree of social and economic integration there, and after what the Huguenots suffered in the old country, that privacy was most welcome and highly prized.

Unfortunately, I must live in a city these days, but I know my roots and am always connected to my home.

Thanks for this group!

Staph

(6,273 posts)
11. This West Virginian thanks you, too.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:33 PM
Mar 2014

It will be good to have a place to go where people understand that we aren't Southern, that we aren't Midwestern, that we are just different.


proReality

(1,628 posts)
13. Transplanted Yank
Wed Oct 29, 2014, 05:33 AM
Oct 2014

Born and raised in upstate NY, but I've been in KY 34 years and hope to spend the rest of my life right where I am.

I'll admit I was frightened to death to move here, movies had taught us that everyone in the south wore a straw hat, had a mule and a still, carried rifles to shoot first and ask questions after, and no one wore shoes. (The barefoot part was okay since I hate shoes and go barefoot as often as possible, even in winter.) But what a surprise--I fell in love with KY as my flight flew over it. I'm home to stay.

Oh, yeah...I did find one guy with a still. Cheers!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. appalachiablue pointed me this way...
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:58 AM
Nov 2014

I am 46, born in Steubenville, OH. Most of my family is from PA and work the coal mines. My wing of the family escaped that when my grandfather became a Methodist minister. I guess we were lucky. Anyways, I live in Texas now, but my heart is still back home.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
17. Pull up a chair and sit a spell
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
Nov 2014

We have some fine folks here and what I think is a group that addresses a woefully underserved topic. Please feel free to jump right in and share.

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