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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:04 PM Oct 2015

“The Oligarchy neither loves you nor hates you, but you have resources that they want.”*

“The Oligarchy neither loves you nor hates you, but you have resources that they want.”*

Some view the big corporations (Oligarchy) as monsters wishing for our demise. I don't believe that's completely true. I am sure you've heard the expression, “It's not personal, it's just business.” So what does that really mean? Well you might find that statement following a statement like this, “If you have to die for me to make a profit,...” This may sound a little harsh but that rational has been used by humans to justify all kinds of atrocities, against other life forms and against humans.

I think “It's not personal, it's just business” is the creed of many major corporations. Ford Motor Co. a couple of decades back determined the financial value of a human life when they decided it was better for their profits to not recall their pickups that were catching fire because of the design of the gas tank (They made a similar decision re. the Pinto) They decided it was better for profits to let people die and pay off the potential suits than to recall or redesign. There are many, many cases to prove that profits take precedence over most everything for the Oligarchy.

So what's my point? Corporations are creatures (certainly not human) that we, like Dr. Frankenstein, have created. We created them via laws and gave them special privileges and powers to allow them to be creative and help us with our lives. So what went wrong? We have allowed them, or in some cases, helped them become monsters. Some have deemed them “human-like” and gave them Constitutional rights.

Progressives see the dangers in the loss of our freedoms, liberties, and wealth, to the Corp-Monster (Oligarchy). Sadly the conservative Republicons and Democrats prefer the comfort (seemingly) of the power of a strong, tough authoritarian leadership that the Oligarchy provides. HRC provides that toughness as her supporters will tell you.
Fortunately some of the Peoples of the world have decided to wake up and smell the Oligarchy. These Peoples are revolting around the globe against the strangle-hold of the Big-Corp Monster (Oligarchy). One such revolt is happening right here in River City with the support for Sen Sanders, clearly the People's choice and not the choice of the Oligarchy.

*A modification of a quote, “The AI (Artificial Intelligence) does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.” credited to Eliezer Yudkowsky, research fellow, Machine Intelligence, found in the book “Our Final Invention” by James Barrat.

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“The Oligarchy neither loves you nor hates you, but you have resources that they want.”* (Original Post) rhett o rick Oct 2015 OP
I think they rarely consider the unwashed masses.nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #1
I think many of them do think about us, and some may sympathize but not enough rhett o rick Oct 2015 #10
Yes, they only see us as a way to gain more wealth. We pay taxes so they can LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #2
I think they see us as they might see bees. We are hard at work for them. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #4
That is a damn good analogy. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #5
Yes. nt Mnemosyne Oct 2015 #7
We are not citizens anymore Phlem Oct 2015 #3
Oh, no, they hate you, all right Demeter Oct 2015 #6
Never have we faced such a fundamental choice Ichingcarpenter Oct 2015 #8
Agree. Our choices are the People's Candidate or the Billionaires' Candidate. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #9
..! KoKo Nov 2015 #13
They don't care enough about you to bother hating you. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #11
Exactly. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #12
The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference Fumesucker Nov 2015 #14
Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #15
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
10. I think many of them do think about us, and some may sympathize but not enough
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

to alter their life styles.

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
2. Yes, they only see us as a way to gain more wealth. We pay taxes so they can
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015

receive that money from the government. We buy products so they can buy the new home or increase their retirement. As a person, they do not see us, they walk by us and see no one there.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
6. Oh, no, they hate you, all right
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:12 PM
Oct 2015

They go out of their way to spoil your day. It's not business, it's pleasure; Zimmerman with a gun AND money.

There are ALWAYS people behind those corporate veils, and most of them are callous. But the ones at the top usually qualify as evil, and the better they are at being evil, the further down the corporate ladder the evil grows.

Don't ever believe that crap about it not being personal. It's VERY personal.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. Never have we faced such a fundamental choice
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:53 PM
Oct 2015

“Never have we faced such a fundamental choice concerning how much lip service to representative democracy we want our elected Corporate Oligarchy to pay except for Bernie Sanders. Obviously if you want a lot of lip service you should vote Democrat. With the Republicans you’ll still get some lip service, but that will quickly turn to sneering and abuse. It’s up to the electorate in the end.”

Those who are concerned they will make the wrong choice need not worry too much.

“It fair to say that both parties are strong on defense, and that accounts for a large part of our Corporate Oligarchy. In plain terms, nobody’s going to take your precious military-industrial complex away no matter who wins. But, unlike in Russia, we get to choose whether we have a Democratic President who is totally subservient to the military-industrial complex, or a Republican President who is the military-industrial complex.”.....the Exception is Sanders

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
9. Agree. Our choices are the People's Candidate or the Billionaires' Candidate.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:31 PM
Oct 2015

Who honestly believes the corp-candidate will actually fight to resolve our poverty problems?

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