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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:24 PM May 2016

So, something interesting happens to weed after it’s legal (Washington State)

Two years ago, the Washington state began an unprecedented policy experiment by allowing large-scale production and sale of recreational marijuana to the public. The effects on public health and safety and on the relationship of law enforcement to minority communities will take years to manifest fully, but one impact has become abundantly clear: Legalized marijuana is getting very cheap very quickly.

Marijuana price data from Washington’s Liquor and Cannabis Board was aggregated by Steve Davenport of the Pardee RAND Graduate School and Jonathan Caulkins, a professor at Carnegie Mellon University. After a transitory rise in the first few months, which Davenport attributes to supply shortages as the system came on line, both retail prices and wholesale prices have plummeted. Davenport said that prices “are now steadily falling at about 2 percent per month. If that trend holds, prices may fall 25 percent each year going forward.”

Ratio of sales value to weight, $ per gram, Washington state

(Chart shows drop from $25 to $9/gram in less than 2 years retail)

Although some observers will be surprised by these sharp price declines – perhaps particularly some investors in the emerging legal marijuana industry – seasoned drug policy analysts have long predicted this effect. As noted by Caulkins and his colleagues in the book "Marijuana Legalization: What Everyone Needs to Know," prohibition imposes many costs on drug producers. They must operate covertly, forgo advertising, pay higher wages to compensate for the risk of arrest, and lack recourse to civil courts for resolving contract disputes. Legal companies in contrast endure none of these costs and also can benefit from economies of scale that push production costs down.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/05/04/the-price-of-legal-pot-is-collapsing/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_potprices-845am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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So, something interesting happens to weed after it’s legal (Washington State) (Original Post) n2doc May 2016 OP
Kicked and recommended In_The_Wind May 2016 #1
The state allowed it... scscholar May 2016 #2
Well they speculate in the article that skunk grade would be free n/t n2doc May 2016 #3
If we had actually legalization things would change some Major Nikon May 2016 #6
It's so dead simple to grow Lordquinton May 2016 #7
Back in the day you could buy a kilo on Haight street for $80.00 OffWithTheirHeads May 2016 #4
Ah the wonders of a free market pscot May 2016 #5
If they completely legalized cultivation in Tennessee, cheapdate May 2016 #8
I live in Washington State Canoe52 May 2016 #9
Growing our own in Colorado.. mountain grammy May 2016 #10
Took a perfectly good medical marijuana program and made any grows jtuck004 May 2016 #11
King County last week put a moratorium it. For new grows and stores. bahrbearian May 2016 #12
I'm already seeing it get cheaper in Oregon. aidbo May 2016 #13
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scscholar

(2,902 posts)
2. The state allowed it...
Wed May 4, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

but considering it is still federally illegal and there are so many restrictions, and thus still tons of arrests, we don't have legalization at all. If it got cheaper while still being basically illegal, imagine if we had actual legalization!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. If we had actually legalization things would change some
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:19 PM
May 2016

For one thing, production would be far more centralized, if not moved overseas. Costs would continue to go down, which would destroy the black market, but taxation would probably increase.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
7. It's so dead simple to grow
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:52 PM
May 2016

Often harder to get rid of. The lifting of prohibition would allow a cottage industry, unless of course they still clamp down regulations. As for overseas, that's a long way off, we might be moving towards legality, but many countries still keep it under tight control, the risk to corporations wouldn't be enough to just throw it here.

Unless they use the TPP to break China's prohibition.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
4. Back in the day you could buy a kilo on Haight street for $80.00
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

Of course it wasn't nearly as powerful as it is today but it was a lot more social. A group wold gather in the communal living room and smoke and talk for hours. Now, two hits and your toast. I stopped smoking the stuff when Panama Red hit $15.00 per oz. Stuff just makes me paranoid.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
8. If they completely legalized cultivation in Tennessee,
Wed May 4, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

farmers would bush-hog fields of the stuff and rake it up into balers.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
9. I live in Washington State
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

most of our friends are growing a couple of plants in their backyards. And we are all 55 and up. Nobody I know pays for it.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
10. Growing our own in Colorado..
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:13 PM
May 2016

but with good bud selling for as low as $99/oz, and trimmings even less, it's nearly as cheap to buy.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. Took a perfectly good medical marijuana program and made any grows
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

at home illegal, made it only commercial so they could lie to themselves and think they are taxing it all. 'Course,tens of thousands of people are growing it anyway and giving a well-deserved finger to the nanny government of Washington State, still operating under the same old misinformation as decades ago.

A few who are making money are trying to tell us how good it is, but they really don't care whether anyone else lives or dies, they just want their money.

These policies train people to disrespect government, and in the process create those who take over federal land or support neo-fascist real estate swindlers for pres.

People wonder where the real estate swindler gets his people - maybe it is from pathetic little state bureaucrats who create them with their policies designed to screw taxpayers over.

The liquor and cannabis board isn't doing this state any favors. Voting season will be interesting on a local level.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
13. I'm already seeing it get cheaper in Oregon.
Thu May 5, 2016, 01:41 PM
May 2016

I was a bit dis-heartened at first because it was so much pricier than getting it illicitly. But I've already seen the price drop to less than $10 a gram for top shelf. ($30 per eighth pre tax). Heck, my local shop had a deal the other day of BOGO eighths. Walked out with a quarter for less than forty bucks.

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