Now watching Hayes and Kornacki continue the pro-Hillary, anti-Bernie crap that has today

[merrily]

dominated MSNBC, except for the Flint tragedy.


This is inexcusable and as undemocratic as it gets. MSNBC earned low ratings. Now, it's earning no ratings. Watch Tom Hartman, Ed Schultz and Cenk.

[wendylaroux]

1. no more msm for me,

just a bunch of Hill shills,bullshit like this is what may beat Bernie.Hope the online campaign is enough,

[merrily]

4. What passes for MSM journalism is, in reality, the propaganda arm of the establishment.

In part, both media and politicians prosper most that way. In part, that is unfortunately a requirement of access by journalists to politicians. That is one of many things in this country that should not be, but nonetheless is.

However, I want to know what they are up to during this primary. As one Sanders Group member put it, "Thanks for watching, so we don't have to."

[Manifestor_of_Light]

2. Hartmann and Schultz are on RT.

Tom 5 nights a week.

[merrily]

6. Thank you.

[Nite Owl]

3. They are running scared

They didn't expect Bernie to get this far. I haven't watched much news, no msgop and cnn is mostly allTrump.

[merrily]

9. They're running ugly, that's for sure.

[SoapBox]

5. I don't watch MSNBC at all anymore.

Zippo!

It turned into a nonstop Rump fest, intermixed with some Camp Weathervane.

Nothing fair...Nothing balanced...

[merrily]

7. Exactly.

I don't think it was ever fair and balanced. During the earlier Bush years, it was essentially RW and pro Bush: Don Imus in the Morning, Scarborough Country, Tucker Carlson, and so on. As Bush's approval numbers tanked, MSNBC began morphing into an essentially establishment Democratic station. I think the videos of Cenk speaking to this after MSNBC took his show away are still on YouTube. Throughout, MSNBC made no pretense of objectivity of any kind. When Obama was the establishment candidate, MSNBC was in the tank for Obama. While it was not awful to Hillary, it did her no favors. Now, Hillary is the establishment candidate and they started by all but ignoring Bernie and have morphed into hit jobs every day throughout the day. It's disgraceful.

[DJ13]

13. Thats about the best description of MSNBC I've read

[merrily]

15. Thank you.

[Nyan]

8. Remember when news was just news?

You know, just boring news delivering information about issues. Because that's what news is; it's supposed to be boring.
It's not supposed to be looking for the next train wreck (e.g. Trump) for ratings, or cramming bullshit down our throats.
MSM is done. At this point, they're all a propaganda for millionnaires and billionnaires.

[merrily]

10. I don't know if I do.

I don't know if news has to be boring, either. Pushing the same agenda and beating the same stories to death all day long is boring, though. That's what MSNBC does. Show after show covers the same stories, with the same slant.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. Just tell everyone you know not to watch MSNBC (Trump News)

[merrily]

12. Thanks for your reply!

[Bernblu]

14. Kornacki is just thankful to have a job but Hayes' is really disappointing

I tweeted him and asked if it was in his contract that if he mentioned Bernie he had to mention that he was a socialist at least once. It's sad to see him turn into a toady for the corporate media but when they fire him I will shed no tears for him. I will soon be rid of cable anyway.

[merrily]

16. Also, nearly continuous statements to the effect that Bernie cannot defeat Hillary.

This is not only Hayes, but was pervasive throughout MSNBC. I think Morning Joe has dropped them because Halperin has said over and over on that show that there is no predicting what is going on in the Democratic primaries until the early primaries are over.

However, Hayes and O'Donnell and others still beat the inevitability of Hillary into every report on Bernie or the primary.

[Tortmaster]

28. When Secretary Clinton has lined up a major endorsement ...

... nearly every day, the news should report that.

When national polls come out with her winning by 20+ points this late in the game, they should report that.

When Nate Silver gives her about a 76% chance of winning in Iowa, one of Senator Sanders' best demographic states, they should report it.

When Secretary Clinton wins a debate or acts Presidential during a townhall, they should report that too.

When leading experts in their field come out for Secretary Clinton's plans over Senator Sanders' plans, they should report that.

The big news for Senator Sanders the last couple weeks have only been polls and one endorsement by move.on. They reported those, right?

I agree they shouldn't be reporting so much Trump.

[merrily]

29. First, you seem to have missed the point. I didn't say MSNBC should not report facts. Second,

this group is for DUers who want Senator Sanders to defeat Secretary Clinton in the upcoming primaries and caucuses. Your post seems better suited to other parts of this board, not this group. Since you've apparently been lurking at DU for years, I would have thought you would have picked that up.

[Tortmaster]

32. I'm sorry. I had some inkling that there were special ...

... safe places for each side's posters to post. I didn't realize I stepped in it. I guess I have. So, I am sorry.

[ErisDiscordia]

33. And when Bernie Sanders sweeps the nomination AND the Election?

Maybe then they will cover it.

[Bernin4U]

17. Haven't had cable for 7 years

People still waste their money on that shit...?

[merrily]

19. What you consider a waste of your own money is up to you. Same for me.

[Duckfan]

18. Lost all respect for Chris Hayes

Haven't watched any MSgop program since Ed left.

[sabrina 1]

20. Corp Media, what do you expect? Look how successful Bernie is, shows how little power they

have anymore. THEY are part of WHY Bernie is doing so well.

The powerful are getting very nervous and desperate, they've lost control of the people! I think it's a good sign.

[merrily]

21. MSNBC, like the rest of the msm, has been unfair to Bernie all along.

Good sign or not, it's bad behavior. It's not that I expected different. It's that, IMO, people should know.

Aside from that, sometimes, I just need to vent to and with my fellow Sanders supporters.

[sabrina 1]

22. I'm never disappointed in the Corp Media. Like so many others now, I get NEWS elsewhere.

Expecting that part of the problem Bernie is running against to be fair, is the equivalent of expecting a sociopath to feel sympathy for his fellow human beings. I got over expecting anything but propaganda from our national propaganda machine.

That is part of what must be changed when we get a government that represents the people again, restore the airwaves to the people.

I cannot possibly be disappointed in what is nothing more than the propaganda arm of oligarchs.

MSNBC is among the worst. After Keith Olberman left, they were done.

[merrily]

23. I've been posting about MSNBC's establishment orientation for years, so I had no expectation of

fairness.

[sabrina 1]

24. Listening to Bernie's speech tonight right now. He mentione 'taking on the media establishment'

I guess 'unfair' is too kind a word for our Corp Media, imo. I would just call it what it is, propaganda for Corporate America. You are way nicer than I am.

[merrily]

25. I've also been calling the msm in general, and, at times MSNBC specifically, the propaganda arm of

the establishment for some time.

[sabrina 1]

26. I turned it on tonight to watch Rachel Maddow in Flint, first time in a long time. Then I wanted to

watch Michael Moore on Lawrence O'Donnell. For the first 20 minutes, maybe more, couldn't take it so I left and went to do some stuff, O'Donnell talked about Donald Trump. I think he said 'Donald Trump' about 200 times. I missed the beginning of MM's segment because I just can't TAKE the obvious distractions participated in by our so-called 'progressives' on MSNBC.

All I can say is thank the gods for the internet and for some of the foreign media where i get to see our real journalists, who will never be seen on the Corp Media.

I get angry just thinking about it. I get angry when I go to Parisan forums, like this one, which I do less and less for the same reasons.

I believe all this, the Corp Media, partisan forums like this, are going to be thing of the past. No young person I know are on forums like this or listen to the Corp media.

What does it say that the largest registered voting bloc now is Independent? Future political blogs will not be partisan imo. They will simply be people who care about this country, not cult like groups who spend their time hating anyone who doesn't agree with them.

The only way to diminish the power of the Corp media is to boycott it. And I think considering their ratings, and inability to influence voters, see Bernie, anymore, that is actually happening

Social Media is where people are, where they get their news. I love it that morons like Chuck Todd is 'puzzled' by Bernie's success. After all he did his job to push the Corp candidates.

That shrinking bubble they live in blinds them I guess.

[merrily]

27. "What does it say that the largest registered voting bloc now is Independent?"

I'm not sure because the largest bloc registered voters in Massachusetts has long been "unenrolled," our version of independent; and Massachusetts is very Democratic.

Divide and conquer" and "divide and rule" have been strategies of rulers for millennia. As this primary reflects, division has been elevated to an art form (albeit performance art). The 99% have been carefully divided from each other, by race, by politics, etc. I hope for our sakes that we do find ways to come together because it is us against the plutocrats and us against us obscures that, to say the least.

[Stevepol]

30. Why not call the media what it is?

The CORPSE MEDIA. Corporations are at least possibly "people," that is, according the the SC. The "media" has no pulse.

It's dead. Brain dead right now and rigor mortis started setting in years ago.

[merkins]

31. Chris Hayes I thought I knew you,

then again I thought I knew Howard Dean, Paul Krugman, and a host of others.

I will say I'm glad to have these people on record for future discussion and evaluation.