Rachel Maddow told Hillary that Clinton's supporters are the same as Sanders' Supporters!

[merrily]

The following has also been posted in the Helping Bernie Sanders Win forum of JackpineRadicals, under the title, Please thank Rachel Maddow for speaking truth literally to power.

The Clinton campaign and supporters of Clinton have, almost from the beginning, been running, not only against Senator Sanders' but against supporters of Senator Sanders. The attacks on supporters of Bernie keep escalating and, now, Bill and Hillary have begun attacking themselves, and not only through surrogates and stories planted with media.

[url]http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104497[/url]

[url]http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php?110-Ignorant-Bernie-Bros-should-END-their-name-calling[/url] (TWM)

AFAIK, running against the supporters of a candidate, especially a candidate of one's own party, is unprecedented in US Presidential politics. (Disclaimer: I have not been following politics closely for very long.)

Tonight, Ms. Rachel Maddow interviewed Secretary Hillary Clinton, who was going on about how the supporters of US Senator Bernie's Sanders are so bad to supporters of Hillary online. Maddow also played a clip in which Bubba was shocked, shocked, by profanity allegedly used by Bernie's supporters.

At the end of the rants of both Clintons about Bernie's supporters, Maddow said calmly that her mail is divided about 50-50 between people who think she it totally in the tank for Hillary and people who think she is totally in the tank for Bernie. Maddow further said that she sees absolutely no difference in the comments she gets from Hillary's supporters and the comments she gets from Bernie's supporters. This happened minutes ago on MSNBC.

Although I have become unenamored of Ms. Maddow since she and her fellow MSNBC anchors crossed a picket line, I really appreciated her saying that. She did not have to, but she did, and right to Hillary's face on national television. So, thank you very much, Ms. Rachel Maddow.

It would be very good, I think, if Bernie's supporters, at least, gave Maddow a shout out for truth telling. Tweet, facebook, email, post, snail mail, whatever.

[url]http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/send-it-rachel[/url]

[url]http://www.msnbc.com/speak-out[/url]

[url]http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show[/url]

[Mufaddal]

1. Thanks for the heads up

Will do!

[grasswire]

2. what was Hillary's reaction?

About the same as it was when the press told her that 70 percent of young women support Bernie?

[merrily]

19. She pretty much ignored what Maddow said and went back to attacking Bernie. But,

Hillary already knew that the claims about Bernie's supporters were bs. I'm just glad the truth got out to Maddow's viewers.

[guillaumeb]

3. I am a part of the Sanders supporters. But I have been rude and deserved my hide.

I posted about William Clinton and Madeleine Albright being genocidaires. I could have phrased it better, could have stated that I felt they were enablers of genocide, but I did not. I received a hide.

I will do my best to not post any more such needlessly inflammatory rhetoric, but I will continue to remind DU of what I believe to be William Clinton's real legacy.

[merrily]

4. Many of DU's Clinton supporters deserved hides and involuntary vacations as well.

The point is not that either group is perfect, but that Bernie's supporters are no different from Hillary's supporters. All the hype to the contrary is ginned up and nonsense.

[guillaumeb]

8. I agree with you and understand your point.

But I am also responsible for my own words as well.

[cui bono]

21. And it's yet another recycled meme from the playbook. Last time it was Obama Boys.

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[merrily]

23. w4rma correctly schooled me on this issue's being an echo of 2008

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=104509

[TTUBatfan2008]

7. The truth is ugly...

Albright said it was "worth it" for 500,000 innocent children to die in Iraq and then she had the nerve to say there is a special place in hell for women who don't support Hillary. Ugly stuff no matter how you describe it, but those are the facts.

[guillaumeb]

9. The truth can reveal the ugliness behind empire.

But my phrasing should have been better.

[merrily]

16. Heart breaking.

I can't even say more.

[Jarqui]

5. I haven't seen any difference around the net

Unfortunately, people say some awful things sometimes

A lot worse out there than here.

I don't understand how that becomes the responsibility of the candidates (obviously, the Clintons are grasping for smears as their campaign flounders)

[merrily]

11. They are escalating, and doing it directly now, that's true.

However, the tactic of attacking Bernie's supporters began very early. Perhaps you recall, just from DU alone?

[Jarqui]

17. Yes, if you mean instances for example, where someone points out an

unflattering fact and could get jumped on. Sure.

Now, it seems more often just catcalls from the bleachers on that stuff.

But under articles, it gets ugly. Yet it always has

From the moment she showed up in Washington, Hillary drew criticism like a lightning rod. She has a personality or way about her that a lot of folks don't warm up to.

Can't say it's a woman thing because Barbara Bush, Laura Bush & Michelle Obama all enjoyed much less criticism (and Michelle was arguably dealing with a layer of racism).

[jillan]

6. And then she let Hillary attack Bernie

But no one from Bernies campaign was there to respond. The attacks went unanswered. 🙁

[TTUBatfan2008]

10. Did Hillary bust out the derivatives attack again?

I didn't see the interview. Pisses me off that no one in the TV media has pointed out Bill Clinton's involvement in the bill that Hillary is attacking Sanders on, not to mention the fact that Bill's advisers who wrote the bill are currently part of Hillary's campaign team.

[merrily]

12. .

Agree

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1156092

[jillan]

14. No - after she said we were sooo mean she said Bernie accepts Wall Street $ becuz

he accepted DCCC money.

[TTUBatfan2008]

15. Ah, that line of attack...

My answer to that is...$200,000 for Bernie versus $300-400 MILLION for the two Clintons. One of these is not like the other.

[merrily]

18. Do you mean DSCC - Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee? Another Catch 22

Until he ran for President, Bernie said he would be independent because he did not want to be beholden to big Democratic Party donors. So, when he runs as a Democrat for President, instead of as a spoiler, he gets blasted for not having been a Democrat. But, if he runs as a Democrat, he gets blasted for taking DSCC money because some of that comes from Wall Street.

Meh.

[TTUBatfan2008]

22. My view is simply this...

He's not perfect, but he is a hell of a lot cleaner than the corporate faction of the party including the Clinton family. Hillary and Bill have likely taken in around $200 MILLION EACH in exchange for what the donors would expect is political favors of some kind.

But we are all idiots for thinking this might be corrupt. Hillary is the cleanest politician of all-time, while the likes of Jeb Bush are dirty as can be for accepting hundreds of millions of corporate dollars. It's an insult to our intelligence to complain about the Koch Brothers and turn around accepting $8 MILLION check from George Soros along with God knows how much from Lloyd Blankfein.

[merrily]

13. True, but I do believe in rewarding behavior I like.

[merrily]

20. IOW, standard operating procedure.