~*The Official Bernie Sanders Democratic Debate Thread!*~

[retrowire]

Alright people, let's settle in with familiar company and enjoy this together. This is the first debate after Bernie's big win, and from what I read on CNN's what to expect article, things aren't looking good for Hillary.

Here's where you'll watch it: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/watch-live-pbs-newshour-democratic-primary-debate/

I suggest streaming through PBS because, CNN has enough attention.

Let's hunker down team, and enjoy the ride!

[Mike__M]

1. It was nice to see a Native woman

Arvina Martin (Ho-Chunk Nation) spoke about voting rights in the pre-debate show.

[retrowire]

2. That's awesome to hear! I'm not tuned in yet. nt

[potone]

3. Thank you, retrowire.

I thank you both for starting the thread and for providing the PBS link. I'd much rather watch it this way than through CNN.

My, it's been ugly today in DU. I'm glad for the company to watch the debate!

[retrowire]

8. No problem! You're in good company!

GO BERNIEEEEE!

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Thank you! It's also on local PBS stations...if you don't want to watch CNN.

Hi retro!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[retrowire]

6. Hello!

I've cut the cord so bad, I don't even have local TV! lol

Streaming for me!

[Rebkeh]

5. Watching on TV this time

PBS is one of the few channels I still have.

What's everyone eating/drinking? No food for me, I just ate a big dinner and am drinking water for now. Probably will get hot tea or chocolate later.

(Yes, I'm old and boring lol)

[retrowire]

7. For me?

Arizona Sweet Tea and BBQ Fritos!

[Bjornsdotter]

9. Sparkling water, lemon flavored n/t

[mucifer]

14. Cold here in Chicago drinking some hot tea

[Punkingal]

23. Hot tea and oatmeal raisin cookies.

[MissDeeds]

24. Chardonnay and ice water here

[Cleita]

25. Irish breakfast tea for me with honey

and a drop of peppermint spirits.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

125. Had a frozen burrito, microwaved.

Microwaved, shredded cheese on top, with some tortilla chips and a nice big iced tea.

Iced tea is the year round drink in the South. Today it got to 78 degrees!! Pretty warm.

[retrowire]

10. It's starting!

Seems smooth so far!

[jwirr]

11. I am hoping it will go well tonight.

[Gregorian]

12. The crowd sounds 50/50

[retrowire]

13. The debate hall is beautiful! nt

[MissDeeds]

15. Oh good grief

She's already co-opting Bernie's message in her opening comments.

[retrowire]

18. At least she didn't say "God Given Potential" lol

I'm surprised the crowd didn't applaud either of the candidates during their opening remarks...

Tough crowd?

[dflprincess]

102. Maybe someone clued her in that it had become a drinking game phrase

I know during the first debate I really regretted not counting the number of times she used it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. She has no shame

[retrowire]

16. I'm beginning to think of Hillary's suits as spacesuits. nt

[Bjornsdotter]

26. As a blonde

....she should never wear that color.....ever.

[TexasBushwhacker]

69. I agree. Yellow on blondes is a no no

Honestly, I think yellow only looks really good on people with darker skin.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

32. I was thinking Bond Villains n/t

[Bjornsdotter]

53. Yes!! n/t

[Deny and Shred]

88. I was thinking Dr Evil

meets Col. Mustard

[Gregorian]

35. She'll be doing repairs on the international space station after the debate.

[MissDeeds]

17. Bernie seems tired

Hope he's okay

[retrowire]

20. I think he might have been waiting for applause in between lines

But the crowd didn't applaud either candidate during the opening remarks...

Tough crowd?

[MissDeeds]

36. Hope the crowd is 50-50

I always worry that the Clinton Machine and DWS will pack the audience. We'll see.

BTW - I can't stand HRC

[HereSince1628]

178. The crowd is 50-50, half the seats were reserved for media the other half for non-media

The front rows where faces are visible behind the moderators are mostly high profile citizens, including the County exec.

[MissDeeds]

185. Thanks for the info

[Peace Patriot]

48. I disagree. Sanders looks and sounds vigorous.

It's Hillary who doesn't look well. Her face looks pasty and puffed up.

[MissDeeds]

66. Good point

I was just worried that Bernie's schedule has been far more hectic than hers.

[cui bono]

349. And he's had a lot more money to count lately.

.

[winter is coming]

83. Probably hasn't slept well this week.

Although I can't imagine why that would be the case.

[appalachiablue]

91. Bernie looks terrific. Hill looks like people who put on a bit more

makeup and powder if they're tired, or not so well. Or they have a bad beautician! It's sometimes uncomplimentary.

[Aquavit]

229. Hillary looks like Big Bird tonight...

and most of what she's saying sounds like a Big Turd. The ACA was called Hillarycare before it became Obamacare? Really?

[Gregorian]

21. Hillary is a good salesperson. She's parroting the talking points to match Bernie's platform.

I doubt the average person knows enough to know which one is being honest.

[Peace Patriot]

22. Bernie was crisp and brilliant in his opening statement!

Hillary was okay, but she is promising "progress" while Bernie is leading a much needed political revolution, and leading it very well. Also I have trouble believing Hillary.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. she's lying AGAIN about his healthcare plan

[Cleita]

43. A yuuge lie.

I have been researching health care since the seventies and her facts are BS fiction.

[Mike__M]

28. "This about lives..."

but we can't do it! Woo hoo!

[Peace Patriot]

57. She said "health care is not about numbers, it's about lives."

But insurance corporations are all about "numbers"! So are the drug corp profiteers! And that is who's in charge with the ACA.

[appalachiablue]

98. +1 It's ALL about the nos.

[Gregorian]

29. Hillary is telling us we can't do Bernie's plans. Bernie's fighting back very well! Yes!

[Rebkeh]

30. wtf? arrghh

Already. Figures.

Do i need to drink to get through this?

(i don't drink)

[Cleita]

31. And already Hillary is starting with the health care bullshit.

She's protecting the parasite insurance companies. Blesch!

[Gregorian]

33. Bernie takes every opportunity to get his message out.

[Punkingal]

40. Bernie is on fire!!!!!!

[retrowire]

34. Hillary saying she's for Universal Healthcare again.

After saying it'll never ever ever happen....

[Bjornsdotter]

37. Lol....

Mr Bjornsdotter said if she calls it Hillarycare one more time he will throw something at the tv.

[jwirr]

44. Save your tv it is not worth it to let her rile you.

[Gregorian]

38. FEEL!

[Gregorian]

41. THE

[Sophiegirl]

42. BERN!!!

[Rebkeh]

45. BERN!

[Sophiegirl]

39. Yes

It will take courage!!!

[retrowire]

46. Haha omg Hillary will not let up.

"We're not england, we're not france"

You're right, WE'RE AMERICA, and YES WE CAN.

[Art_from_Ark]

64. Hey, that might make a great chant for Hillary

We're not in England! We're not in France!
We're in America where single-payer hasn't got a chance!

[virtualobserver]

113. that is hilarious

[mmonk]

188. +1

[Carolina]

237. DUzy

[CoffeeCat]

47. Hillary always says why we can't

Bernie always fights for what is right.

So sick of Clinton making excuses for why we can't have universal healthcare.

[YOHABLO]

280. Because like Obama, she wants to make sure the Insurance Industry gets it's piece

of the pie. Hey, we're not France, we're not Canada .. we're the USA where gouging people to death is the norm.

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. NO WE CAN'T!

[Bjornsdotter]

50. Now we aren't

England or France.....well no shit. England looked at it's citizens suffering 60 years ago with poor healthcare and they did something about it.

[retrowire]

52. Yep. nt

[morgiedev]

51. She gets on my nerves :/

She's so negative. All about "me, I, my, mine"

[Gregorian]

54. "You're not in the White House yet." Phew.

[MrChuck]

58. yeah, wow

that was something

[retrowire]

60. Ha! nt

[appalachiablue]

116. Sharp one.

[cui bono]

353. What did she say to get him to say that?

I'm just finishing up at work so can't listen/watch.

.

[MissDeeds]

55. OMG

My husband just said "I don't know why she's wasting her time. She'll be in jail soon."

[morgiedev]

65. Hahahaha!

[CoffeeCat]

67. Lol! (Nt)

[retrowire]

56. Hillary's plan will only cost 100 billion a year!

But, I'll still have to pay around 600 a month for health insurance.

Ugh...

[TexasBushwhacker]

84. Don't forget the co-pays & deductibles n/t

[retrowire]

85. Don't remind me! nt

[arcane1]

288. Be glad! You get to keep that 600/month payment instead of a 1,000/year tax!!

[retrowire]

293. lol nt

[CoffeeCat]

59. You're not in the White House yet...

Man did you see her face??

[cal04]

61. All over twitter right now with pic

LOL


https://twitter.com/actdottv

[in_cog_ni_to]

68. That's a keeper!

[elehhhhna]

62. She looks annoyed. This progressive shit makes her mad, huh?

[retrowire]

63. Anyone sick of Hillary starting replies with

"You know again we share the same goals"

XD

[Punkingal]

71. I am. But so far Bernie is kicking her ass.

[jwirr]

134. Of course he is - she is trying to talk his issues and she is

out of her depth.

[Sophiegirl]

72. Look at me

I'm just like him....but better.

[in_cog_ni_to]

74. Yes...no you don't!

[Gregorian]

76. She's thinks rubbing up against him will get some Bernie on her.

He's going to have to distance himself from her sidling up to him.

[MissDeeds]

106. Trying to establish commonality

Not working.

[appalachiablue]

127. Check.

[Carolina]

243. I really can't

stand her. She alludes to her plan, her record, her blah, blah, blah

[CoffeeCat]

73. Why do women dislike you Hillary?

Did you ever think that a debate moderator would be asking HRC why women aren't supporting her?

[in_cog_ni_to]

90. I can barely look at her

I dislike her so much! She's such a hack

[onecaliberal]

239. Me too.

[cui bono]

354. Yowza!

Is there a special place in hell for moderators who ask that?

.

[retrowire]

77. Ha, the Albright comment comes up.

Hillary is deflecting it correctly, I'll give her that.

[valerief]

78. Thanks!

[Rebkeh]

79. I wonder what the word counts will be

I vs. We on both sides

[MissDeeds]

80. You know she's thinking

Enough of this! Just give me the damn crown.

[Rebkeh]

81. I was irritated at the pandering to women

but it set it up for a great response from Bernie so.... alright then.

[Bjornsdotter]

108. Oh yeah!

He had a great response.

[Gregorian]

82. Sanders great comeback from gender comment. He'd be historic too.

[jillan]

347. Yes!!

[CoffeeCat]

86. Hillary seems off her game tonight

Anyone else feel she seems a bit in second gear? Distracted?

[Punkingal]

92. Yes...I was thinking the same thing. Bernie is on fire, though!

[californiabernin]

95. Bernie is killing it.

In my opinion he's won every exchange thus far. I don't think I'm that biased. I think he's truly winning this debate objectively.

[monmouth4]

105. I think that's because he's a natural, tells the truth and she's just trying too hard..IMO...n/t

[californiabernin]

133. She has everything to lose. nt

[Bjornsdotter]

89. No, no, no

...PP and NARAL members did not support you. It was the upper management that supported you.

[Rebkeh]

104. +1

[Cleita]

93. And another lie.

Shes not asking as women to support her. Funny I've been seeing some bullying in the past few days to support her.

[in_cog_ni_to]

103. 61% sanders 39% clinton FB CONVERSATION

[californiabernin]

117. Honestly that is probably skewed to Sanders because it's Facebook.

Still though I think he is doing fantastic!

[hibbing]

94. Excellent comments on choice by Bernie

[CoffeeCat]

97. That was wonderful.

The audience seemed to love it too.

[Bjornsdotter]

112. That was amazing! n/t

[retrowire]

96. Bernie's Hypocrisy comment overshadowed Hillary's by a longshot!

Excellent!!!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

99. Bernie has solutions to problems

Hillary is all hot air

[Gregorian]

100. Is this a debate, or what.

[valerief]

114. It's definitely a Hillary-populated audience.

[Peace Patriot]

101. Oh my, Bernie is a brilliant debater!

He completely turned around the "first woman in the White House" issue into a brilliant attack on Republican hypocrisy! (--they hate government until it comes to women's control of their own bodies). His best debating moment so far in this debate!

[californiabernin]

110. I'm more impressed with him in this debate than any other thus far.

He seems to get better and better at it.

[Punkingal]

118. Yes he does!

So authentic and real!

[retrowire]

107. Conversation on Facebook right now?

Bernie Sanders 61%

Hillary Clinton 39%

[Sophiegirl]

120. Link?

I'm not so tech savvy.

[in_cog_ni_to]

135. It was on teevee

[Sophiegirl]

144. Must have missed it. n/t

[retrowire]

142. Oh it was on the TV

Lower screen interstitial.

[Sophiegirl]

149. Missed it

I suck at multitasking. Paying attention to body language instead.

[in_cog_ni_to]

130. Yes! he owns the interwebs!

[Gregorian]

109. How can she keep a straight face while talking about the criminal system?

[Rebkeh]

115. I know, right?

[winter is coming]

123. She probably lives in the moment.

I used to know a guy like that. He told me once that past record and future consequences were irrelevant to him, because he believed he could convince anyone of anything, so long as he could keep talking. What's amazing is how long he got away with it.

[tularetom]

342. That guy you knew sounds like Bill Clinton

He sure as hell believed he could convince anybody of anything. And he got away with it for a looooong time.

[in_cog_ni_to]

111. shut her up!

[MissDeeds]

121. + a zillion

[Bjornsdotter]

119. Did she look pissed when Bernie

....said she wasn't in the White House yet? I was knitting and missed the look.

[retrowire]

126. She actually did get "nose up in the air' offended. It seemed so. nt

[Bjornsdotter]

131. Nice! n/t

[pangaia]

137. The nose up she always does is a serious tell.

[CoffeeCat]

128. Ohhhh yes. If I put a word bubble above her head

It would have said, "How daaaaare you."

She looked like she was seething.

It didn't last long, but it was there.

[Bjornsdotter]

132. Sweet! n/t

[MissDeeds]

138. She's a master of the eye dagger

[retrowire]

122. "We're seeing alot more, everybody has a cell phone"

HILLARY WTF?

I know the NSA is watching us, but lets be blatant why don't we? lmao

[MissDeeds]

124. Holy hell

Is she running as Obama #2? Hey Hillary! Have an original thought

[retrowire]

129. Exactly.

She really just repeated what Bernie said, but in a plainer format.

Now Bernie is pointing out Wall St's responsibility for damaging the middle class, and therefore minorities.

THAT is what separates the two candidates.

And it appeals much more to the heart and mind.

[CoffeeCat]

141. Half the time she's Obama II; the other half

She's stealing Bernie's agenda.

[MissDeeds]

145. That's it exactly

[in_cog_ni_to]

147. Daaaaaaaamn! she talks a lot...to take up all the time!

[Rebkeh]

136. What annoys me the most is that if you aren't in the loop

If you aren't plugged in, the bs flies right under scrutiny. The hypocrisy is astounding.

[retrowire]

139. Bernie, "White people?!"

lmao I love his reactions. It keeps things fun.

[jwirr]

268. ???? I am not watching just listening to you all.

[retrowire]

273. Uhh

The Moderators turned a question about black people on it's head and asked the candidates about white people. and essentially the fact that white people's life expectancy is decreasing.

Bernie exclaimed jokingly, "White people?!" which got laughter out of the audience. It was a small funny moment.

[Sophiegirl]

140. Is she just making stuff up

About white people's issues???

[INdemo]

143. Does Gwen seem to give Clinton an edge ...that being not giving Bernie rebuttal time?

[jillan]

249. YES - from the beginning.

[retrowire]

146. Hillary is stumbling like fuck

to state that she has figures that say the White communities suffer more than the black.

[CoffeeCat]

152. She is not "on" like she's been in previous debates

probably not a good idea to look at your Nevada internal poll numbers immediately before going on stage.

[retrowire]

156. ha ha ha!

I've noticed this as well. She's being pretty plain.

[arcane1]

299. When you stand for nothing, it's sometimes hard to know where to stand n/t

[Aquavit]

235. She can't remember which side of each issue she's supposed to come down on today...nt

[MrChuck]

148. Hillary took bait on the white question

and she is desperately trying to swim back to shore.

[retrowire]

155. Yeah that was.... terrible to watch.

Damn.

[Gregorian]

150. Oh yeah...Bernie segues into the damage of bad trade agreements.

[notadmblnd]

151. "special help"

No Hillary, white people need no "special help." Everyone needs jobs! Let's not lift any "special" group up. Let's lift everyone up!

[TDale313]

153. Hitting her on trade! Good.

Loved how she was talking about distressed communities and had to stop herself from saying their jobs had been shipped overseas.

[retrowire]

154. Bernie and Hillary are getting fair treatment in this debate. I think so anyway.

What do you guys think?

[leftcoastmountains]

157. I think the audience is stacked with Hillary people.

[Funtatlaguy]

165. Sounds about 60-40

Hillary people to me.

[MissDeeds]

171. I do too

Absolutely!!!

[MissDeeds]

160. I agree

and it's not as heated as the last debate. Moderators are doing a great job.

[Punkingal]

161. I agree. Bernie is just kicking her butt, though.

[Gregorian]

158. Bernie hits a hard right with the Clinton against allowing Hondurans to stay here during violence.

[in_cog_ni_to]

159. Whoa! hit her on the Honduras kids coming over border...she didn't want them here. figures. cold

[retrowire]

162. OMFG BERNIE IS HITTING HARD ON IMMIGRATION!!!

He hit her on Honduras and is explaining his vote against the immigration bill LIKE A BOSS

I LOVE YOU BERNIE!!!

[CoffeeCat]

163. Hit her on private prisons!! (Nt)

[CoffeeCat]

168. There's the dagger look again!!!!

No one puts Hillary in a corner...I guess.

[CoffeeCat]

179. Bernie needs to go after her!

Hillary is very thin skinned and underperforming tonight. If he just hits her on private prisons or her Wall Street connections, she just might implode.

[Sophiegirl]

164. No she did not!!

Against private prisons????

Holy crap!!!

[potone]

175. I know!

I can't believe she just said that!

[Rebkeh]

182. This is what I'm saying!!

My comment ^ #136

[morgiedev]

166. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!

HILLARY JUST GOT BERNED!!! HIS RESPONSE TO HIS VOTING AGAINST THE IMMIGRATION BILL DAMN

[retrowire]

167. Hillary's defense

Ted Kennedy THO LOLOLOL

Hahaha she's ridiculous!

Bernie's hitting back!

[pangaia]

169. Hillary nose in the air.. again and again....

[Gregorian]

170. Bernie slams her for being inhumane to the children of Honduras! Make the most of it Bernie.

[Peace Patriot]

172. Oh, she dares to mention Honduras!

As Sec of State, she colluded with the rightwing military coup in Honduras, in June 2009! She helped destroy democracy in Honduras!

[Gregorian]

190. Thank for that fact.

Lousy.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

173. She looks smarmy

that would put me off if I was making a decision on a candidate

[Sophiegirl]

174. Go Bernie Go!!!! n/t

[BigBearJohn]

176. Uhoh Hillary is using her monochromatic voice again

[retrowire]

177. Hillary, "But they would have suffered on the trip over here!!"

Bernie: "They would have suffered staying there!!!"

Hillary: "It's not worth the trouble???"

Hillary you fail at this one, stand down.

[Old Crow]

180. Just tuned in...

... and all I have to say is, "Sinnnnnnnngin' in the rain...!"

(Sorry: I couldn't help myself.)

[retrowire]

181. Bernie STOMPED Hillary on immigration, it was amazing. nt

[Gregorian]

197. Haha.

[Cleita]

183. Seniors with passive income? Wtf is she talking about?

[TexasBushwhacker]

226. No. I think she was saying that passive income

should be subject to SS tax. I would imagine that wouldn't apply to seniors.

[jwirr]

318. Probably seniors that make a lot of money besides their

social security.

[in_cog_ni_to]

184. Great great answer on SS!

[CoffeeCat]

186. He's going after her on Soc Sec

Good!

[CoffeeCat]

194. Here we go Super Pacs! (Nt)

[Bjornsdotter]

187. Oh I saw that!

A lift of the chin.

I think she is clenching her teeth a bit. Watch her jaw.

[saltpoint]

189. I think it would be kind of refreshing if

Hillary quit the race.

This is not a prediction. I picture her in it to the bitter end.

But a strong case could be made that it's more important for her to be a great grandmother to her grandkids than for her to win the White House.

Not to mention I'm for her primary opponent.

[MissDeeds]

191. Whoa

Stuff just got real! Bernie is going after after her on her record.

She said "I will". He says "I did".

[retrowire]

195. Bernie's kicking so much ass today. nt

[MissDeeds]

206. HRH just got BERNED!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

192. She DOESN'T SUPPORT LIFTING THE CAP OR EXPANDING SS! He called her on it!

[retrowire]

193. HAHAHA

George Soros and Donald Sussman VS Bernie's DSCC money!

YESSSS

[MissDeeds]

196. Pivot pivot pivot Hillary

Answer the damn question

[in_cog_ni_to]

198. She REFUSES TO TALK ABOUT HER BIG DONORS! I hope they follow up

[retrowire]

202. No follow up.

But now Bernie gets to brag about how he's funded.

You and me!

[retrowire]

199. She just included her contributors with Bernie's.

Sorry, we're not the same, and we're not the same amount.

Nice dodge of the question though!

[Bjornsdotter]

200. Can I have $1?

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[retrowire]

207. IM NOT KIDDING MADDI nt

[Bjornsdotter]

210. Lol!!

[CoffeeCat]

201. The Koch Bros have an agenda, but Wall Street doesn't?

How can she say that with a straight face?????

[Rebkeh]

212. The dissonance....

[MrChuck]

203. "we both have a lot of small donors..."

She's glad that the three of them represent more individual donors than any candidates in history.

Sanders has more than either of them!

[Ino]

204. Ask her how many of her small donations were only $1 (nt)

[MrChuck]

217. Let's not insult the intelligence of the American people.

He's going for it.

[Gregorian]

205. Bernie has the mojo!

[Sophiegirl]

208. Deny and deflect.

Good job, Hill

[pangaia]

209. Now she is bragging about her 'small donations."

ME and BERNIE both have small donors.

Ah again-- "Between the two of us"


arrgh...

[CoffeeCat]

211. Here we go! Hillary defends her SuperPac

Oh dear god!!! It's not my SuperPac!!! It's Obama's!!!

[retrowire]

213. Hiding behind Obama. nt

[CoffeeCat]

214. People aren't dumb!!!

You go Bernie!!!

[retrowire]

220. And Bernie had the audience laugh at her.

He's killing it tonight. Hiding behind Obama won't save her.

[MissDeeds]

215. God I hate her flat grating voice

[retrowire]

216. "Let's not insult the intelligence of the American people"

And then he has the audience laugh at her.

Bernie. You're my hero.

[MissDeeds]

223. Awesome response

[Bjornsdotter]

218. Not sure, but....

...I think she is blinking F@#$ You in code at Bernie.

[cui bono]

355. lmao!!!!

omgz that was HILARIOUS!



.

[in_cog_ni_to]

219. Obama! Obama! Obama! In 2008 she didn't think he should be prez, now he walks on water! she's

Pathetic!

[CoffeeCat]

225. She ties herself to Obama because her

Campaign and her ideas are weak.

She's trying to ride in Obama's coat tails because her own campaign messaging is s weak.

[in_cog_ni_to]

232. Exactly. pathetic

[MissDeeds]

234. Wonder how he feels about her using him

She will use anyone and anything for personal gain - like the people of Flint. God she's insufferable.

[lasttrip]

221. People aren't dumb

Go Bernie

[Gregorian]

222. She's a centrist in progressive clothing.

[retrowire]

224. Bernie snags time before the commercial break!

Nice save! Hillary can't rebuttal now.

[retrowire]

227. Break time.

Bernie is AMAZING tonight.

He's biting much more than he has before. And excellently so.

[bkkyosemite]

228. Bernie looks flushed hope he is okay

[Capt.Rocky300]

236. He does have a cold. He may a fever.

Hope not.

[bkkyosemite]

241. Yes I wondered if he had a fever oh he has a cold. He needs to rest

[MissDeeds]

244. He really needs to scale back

and have some down time. He's made so many appearances in the past few days. That's grueling and will take a toll.

[Capt.Rocky300]

250. I think so too but he can't.......

he'd be perceived as too old and frail to be POTUS and HRC would be all over it. Of course, it sounds like she is coming down with a cold too.

[Peace Patriot]

301. I don't see that at all. He looks great!

I think Hillary looks awful. Face puffy and pasty looking, eyes puffy and pin-pointy. She also looks stiff-backed, and she's holding her head in an awkward way. Her voice is okay, but brassy.

[saltpoint]

230. She's outmatched. This Sanders guy

seems to have done his homework.

Steadily.

For decades.

[Ino]

231. H keeps saying "90% are covered by ACA...

we have to get the other 10% covered."

As if nothing can be improved until the last 10% are covered under the same inadequate ACA.

Drives me nuts.

[arcane1]

337. "Covered" is her code word for "insurance customer"

She likes to use the phrase "Universal Healthcare Coverage" as if it's the same as "Universal Healthcare"

[cui bono]

356. Interesting... n/t

[Punkingal]

233. Personally I think Bernie is kicking her ass all over the stage!

[in_cog_ni_to]

238. FP...here we go....*sigh* someone stop her!

[Ino]

240. Is anyone else bothered by her front tooth?

It's dark or something... lipstick on it? I can't take my eyes off it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

242. I never noticed it...but I will now! LOL

[valerief]

246. petty

[Ino]

253. Yes, you're right. I'm ashamed and humbled.

[CoffeeCat]

279. You should only be ashamed if you mentioned her jacket

and how it looks as if it was swiped from Chairman Mao's closet.

[Ino]

295. I'm ashamed to say I thought it was a raincoat.

But I do prefer it to the brown thingie with the fuzzy trim she wore in an earlier debate.
That was a compliment, right?

[CoffeeCat]

304. We can both hold our heads in shame

at noticing her reflective jacket and marveling that it can be seen from the International Space Station.

[CoffeeCat]

245. Going after her on Libya! Good (nt)

[Bjornsdotter]

247. If she can't recognize bullshit

....in 2002, how can we be certain she would recognize it now.

[arfcorps]

248. Bernie's Not Flushed

Bernie isn't flushed, CNN just keep switching the saturation / color balance on his camera. I've seen it flip back multiple times.

[bkkyosemite]

263. Oh okay whew

[arfcorps]

282. Bernie's Not Flushed

No doubt to compensate for HRC's over pastiness tonight

[Gregorian]

251. She's a slippery one.

God help us.

[MrChuck]

252. Hillary killed Bin Laden

got that? It was her.

[retrowire]

258. With her bare hands.

Bernie's going after her on her admiration to Henry Kissinger.

Bernie is awesome tonight, seriously.

[MissDeeds]

254. Omg - She's lying through her teeth

I hope Obama is watching this. Apparently he couldn't make a move or decision without her input.

And she got Bin Laden. Just kill me now.

[Gregorian]

260. Because she sold her soul to the $

[CoffeeCat]

255. Kissinger!

Glad Bernie brought that up!!

[Cleita]

270. He won't listen to Henry Killinger.

Even if I hadn't been for Bernie. This would turn me to him. The thought that foreign policy will be in the hands of Hillary Clinton with Bloodingers's advice in the background sends chills up and down me.

[in_cog_ni_to]

256. Henry fucking KISSINGER!!!! GO BERNIE!

[Bjornsdotter]

257. Yes!! For those who remember Vietnam

....nice hit on Kissinger.

[Peace Patriot]

259. I'm so glad Bernie talked about Libya...

...and the "unintended consequences" of U.S. regime change around the world. And I'm further glad that he mentioned the U.S. destruction of Iran's democracy in 1953, and the consequences of that.

And then...Henry Kissinger!

Oh, yes. Thank you, Bernie!

[virtualobserver]

271. that is the dirty little secret that no one normally talks about with Iran....CIA interventions

[in_cog_ni_to]

261. She listens to voices! Yeah...in her head!

[MissDeeds]

276. Ha! I caught that

It explains a lot.

[RazBerryBeret]

262. did she just say

she listens to voices? ha.

[retrowire]

264. I died laughing..

"WELL IT AINT HENRY KISSINGER"

Love it.

Oh how she keeps praising Kissinger.

[Old Crow]

265. Bernie is ON FIRE!

This is awesome. He's doing great!

[retrowire]

266. He seriously is!

He's not letting anything get past.

[bkkyosemite]

267. He is strong tonight. She is better tonight then before

[Gregorian]

269. Bernie is the factmaster. Hillary puffs lies.

[bkkyosemite]

272. yes she is better at puffing lies is what I meant lol

[INdemo]

274. When is Hillary going to figure out that Yellow is not her color.

[saltpoint]

283. Likely a while, but probably sooner than

she realizes that she shouldn't be making references about Henry Kissinger.

Or running for president with the staff she has now.

Or running for president as the candidate she is now.

[Gregorian]

275. ....GLAZING...

[INdemo]

277. When is Hillary going to figure out that Yellow is not her color.

[MissDeeds]

290. It looks like a pleather cape

Yikes

[TexasBushwhacker]

278. WOW The PBS commentators are really biased

towards HRC. I would like however, for Bernie to have the numbers regarding his universal healthcare plan. We already spend $3.8 Trillion PER YEAR on healthcare. Yet there are still millions who are uninsured or under insured, people who can't afford medications, people who are dying prematurely or becoming disabled for no other reason than the fact that we do not have affordable healthcare.

Bernie's plan would ultimately save $6 Trillion over the next decade and you can't put a price on people who do not die needlessly.

[in_cog_ni_to]

281. Hitting her on her wish for no fly zone...so she can starve more people

[TexasBushwhacker]

284. Bernie needs to see a speech therapist

I'm worried he's going lose his voice. There are ways you can speak that don't do so much wear and tear on the vocal chords.

[valerief]

285. He might have a cold.nt

[retrowire]

289. He's had the surgery before.

Maybe he'll have it again. And as president, he'll be able to get the best throat money can buy. lol

[CoffeeCat]

286. Hillary seems zanaxed tonight

Maybe she's purposely being subdued---but her demeanor is so different tonight, than in other debates.

[retrowire]

291. I've noticed that. nt

[saltpoint]

292. It too bad one of the voices she listens to

in her head isn't working on a speech announcing she plans to drop out of the race.

Cuz that would be awesome.

[winter is coming]

345. I had a moment on Tuesday evening

--when she was wearing that black and white outfit--where I thought she was about to announce she was going to retire into a convent. Too many medieval mysteries, LOL!

[saltpoint]

359. LOL. I'm enjoying that scenario.

She'd likely have to give up that yellow dress.

[dorkzilla]

297. May be because the news about the State Department subpoena came out today

But again I'm getting that her internal polling numbers for SC is in the toilet. Which also explains the hyperbole with the CBC (PAC) today.

[CoffeeCat]

325. I hadn't heard about SC

But I did hear some post Iowa info about Latino voters breaking heavily in Iowa for Sanders and being instrumental in him doing well in many of the biggest counties.

I heard this directly from a LULAC leader.

[MissDeeds]

306. I noticed that

After she got her butt kicked in NH, she should be.

[retrowire]

287. Bernie's really great at getting the last word in this debate. nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

294. Bernie has been doing very well in foreign policy

[in_cog_ni_to]

298. He really is! PEACE-based

[shanti]

296. please start a new thread, thanks!

[in_cog_ni_to]

303. It's getting too long!

[bkkyosemite]

300. The question was for Bernie not her

[Gregorian]

302. Bernie invokes Churchill; schools everyone in the house.

[bkkyosemite]

305. What a ...............

[retrowire]

307. BERNIE ATTACKED OBAMA

Hillary, we're not loyal to Obama. This is a democracy, not a monarchy.

[dorkzilla]

331. She doesn't get that the politicians owe US allegiance, not vice versa nt

[Gregorian]

308. Oh Bernie, you're so rude to Obama. Now we're about to see sparks!

[retrowire]

311. He replied very well. nt

[bkkyosemite]

309. a "low blow" you go Bernie what a ...can't say it here

[in_cog_ni_to]

310. What a freakin' witch! BERNIE'S PISSED!

[Ino]

320. What a hypocrite!

After she attacked Obama so viciously during their campaign, saying McCain would be a better president, waiting for Obama to be assassinated!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

324. Well, we were expecting that ,no?

That was one of the talking points we've seen the campaign start to throw around, including here. I can smell the stench of desperation out here in CA.

[in_cog_ni_to]

312. She's such a fucking liar.

[Deny and Shred]

313. At 10:45

She wraps herself in the Obama flag - yet again. Where was she during the 2012 midterms?

Glad to see Sen. Sanders hitting back.

How dare anyone question anyone?

[Gregorian]

314. feeling some bern right about now. It's real people time.

[cal04]

315. She is such a fake. She attacked Obama until she lost

and got a job in his administration

[retrowire]

316. "One of us ran against Barack Obama. I was not that candidate" *applause*

Ha!

And an excellent segway into his ending statement.

[MissDeeds]

317. Sweet mother of god I loathe her

She can't run on her record, she's trying to ride on Obama's coattails, although as Bernie pointed out, SHE ran against Obama.

[retrowire]

326. The coat tails thing is the stupidest thing that she keeps doing.

Her closing statement uses Flint Michigan as a prop again and paints Bernie as a "single issue" candidate.

We're not stupid Hillary, don't insult our intelligence.

[Gregorian]

330. She's on permanent smug.

[in_cog_ni_to]

319. As USUAL...the MOUTH gets the last word!

[retrowire]

329. She paid for it. nt

[shanti]

340. how did that happen?

the got the last word in the introductions, and she got the last word on the salutations! that doesn't seem fair to me.

[in_cog_ni_to]

344. They ALWAYS let her have the last word...favoritism. n/t

[MissDeeds]

321. Why the hell does she always get the last word??

Always!

[Rebkeh]

322. Wow, she's..

I have no words.

[Gregorian]

323. Americans need to know who is supported by the fracking industry. Too much applause for lies.

[leftcoastmountains]

332. I think the audience is stacked with Hillary people. I know I know I said this before.

But it's obvious!

[Gregorian]

338. No doubt. It's still frustrating though. This is going to be an amazing few months.

[Capt.Rocky300]

339. Establishment politics at work.

[bkkyosemite]

327. I wish Bernie would say I will be a President that can make the right

decisions for our Country.

[Gregorian]

336. It's strongly implied in his opposition to the Iraq war resolution.

[Bjornsdotter]

328. Bernie knows

....that education is the key. Hillary hasn't figured that out yet.

[Old Crow]

333. The Key Difference Between the Two.

One of them was saying things he's been saying for decades and that he'd act on.

The other was saying things to get herself elected.

[retrowire]

335. Exactly. nt

[Mufaddal]

334. I was extremely impressed with Bernie tonight

He does the best when he just comes out and says what he thinks, and he did that especially on foreign policy tonight. Superb, even in front of a Hillary-dominated crowd.

[Ino]

343. He's fearless!

I'm always being amazed at the unexpected things he will say... boldly honest, true to himself (the greatest danger to the world? After everyone else said things like ISIS, Iraq, blah, blah... he said "global warming"!)

Post-debate commentary... Young Turks
http://www.tytnetwork.com/live/

[INdemo]

341. I thought Bernie did better on the foreign policy subject

Hillary tried the ol' Friends with Iran and Bernie quickly put her in her place saying "i'm talking about over a period of time talking to them
And then threw a real good curve ball about her debate with Obama about Iran in 2008 and it cooled her heels.

[jillan]

346. Is it just me - are these debate moderators doing a crappy job?

They don't seem to have control & are not allowing the 30 sec for response.

And I can hear them chit-chatting during the some of the answers.

[retrowire]

350. true they chatted

I thought they were fair with questions. they allowed Bernie's rebuttals, but they allowed Hillary to speak too long

[jillan]

348. She is so condescending - I can't take it.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

352. The condescension was gross --

but it was watching another Clinton "evolution" into a left-wing, economic populist who is frothing at the bit to take the fight to Wall Street is what I can't take. During this things most of my time is spent with my mouth hanging open thinking, 'Did she REALLY have the lady balls to try and get that bullshit past us?'

She just really makes me want to scream when she pulls that crap.

[tommcc99]

351. Bernie "Intrepid" Sanders

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders' Secret Service code name is... Intrepid.

"The Bill Press Show" broke the news about the Democratic presidential candidate on its Twitter feed on Thursday morning,

According to Merriam-Webster, the word intrepid is "characterized by resolute fearlessness, fortitude and endurance."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-secret-service-code-name_us_56bd3c5fe4b0c3c55050bff9

[cui bono]

357. Love it!

Welcome to DU!



.

[ladyVet]

358. Hillary thinks having two women moderators makes a majority of women "on the stage".

Um. No. Even my math skills aren't that bad. One man plus one woman equals a tie, even numbers. The moderators don't count. They are not on the stage. You are. You idjit.

Bernie needs to start dinging her every time she tries to ride Obama's coat tails: That's not what you said in 2008!"

For me, Obama's coat tails have been dragged through Republican shit. That would not inspire me to vote for her. The opposite, in fact.