So we're tied in Nevada.

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what will your reaction be if another Iowa situation happens?

Mine? WTF

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Good enough.

Given how far down he started in Nevada, and how much ground he had to make up, a tie would be fine. Especially in a state with nearly half the caucusers likely to be non-white. If he makes significant inroads into the Latino community, that leaves Clinton's advantage with black Americans less important and widens his 'path' to victory. I'd prefer an outright win, of course, but I'll be happy with a tie, and not terribly worried about a loss of a few points.

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3. good answer, here's a follow up

what's your reaction if we get several more ties in this race?

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. I'm fine with it.

Since Dems don't have winner take all, a tie just pushes us down the road. I expect more losses early on, more wins as time goes on. I think the real question is just how quickly does Bernie pass her? If he can do it early enough, he wins, if he doesn't do it fast enough, she does. Way it stands now, Bernie is actually hurt by early voting, since it leaves him less time to sway over her fair weather voters.

[retrowire]

8. Hmmm... Didn't think of it that way, good perspective! nt

[Mufaddal]

7. I agree that a tie is a loss for Hillary

Even a tie here, let alone several more, could throw her campaign into a tailspin. Don't forget, she's already run a presidential campaign; Bernie has not. She should be absolutely creaming him, and ties just aren't good enough. At this point, even if she takes SC (and I suspect she will), Bernie is already favored to win a number of other states in New England and will probably outperform her in states like California, Washington, Oregon, etc. as well.

In fact, I'll go one step further and say that even a narrow win for Hillary in Nevada is not good enough at this point in the game.

[SheenaR]

2. I think we are going to be close to that

And I will go on the record to say that I think we unfortunately are going to run out of time in Nevada. If we had two more weeks, I think we would have it..


I'll go on record and say I think we lose a close call and we definitely lose the following Saturday. Keeping the delegate count close though is the most important. March 1 and beyond present some real opportunities for us.

[Kalidurga]

4. It very likely will not be the same situation.

Bernie probably won the popular vote in Iowa, but because of the way millennials are concentrated in college towns it didn't help him to have them on his side in overwhelming numbers. That will not happen in Nevada, so Hillary still has to deal with the fact millennials are busy and they do not answer their phones, some are not polled because they have never voted, and a lot of people say Hillary because they think she will win and they change their minds when they see Bernie's numbers going up.

[CoffeeCat]

5. I addressed this in another post

There was so much cheating and intentional disruption of our Iowa caucuses. I still have a difficult time discussing everything that happened.

The Clinton camp cheated in big ways and in small ways. It was as if they decided that a 50-prong approach to caucus cheating was the way to go. In my precinct, they cheated. I had friends call and tell their own stories. They were devious, deceptive and they were very sly about it.

When you've got this happening across the state, it does have an effect.

Do you remember after the caucuses, when the Chair of the Iowa Dem party (Andy McGuire) said that the caucus result was final? She slammed that door shut! What was going on behind the scenes was that Iowans had spotted errors in the Iowa Democratic Party PDF that was on the front page of the IDP website. The PDF listed all of Iowa's 1,680 precincts and the final delegate count--the delegates that Sanders, Clinton and O'Malley won. People were calling in to say, "Hey! I was in Grinnell Precinct 5 and I know that Sanders got 5 and Clinton got 4. You reported Clinton 5, Sanders 4." McGuire continued to refuse any sort of audit or corrections!

Finally, the Des Moines Register Editorial Board writes their scathing, "Something Smells in the Iowa Caucuses" editorial--after Iowans called them, begging the Register for help.

But guess what? Iowans were continuing to come forward with additional errors and what does the Iowa Democratic Party do? THEY REMOVED THE PDF FROM THEIR WEBSITE!!!!

So, six days after the Iowa Caucuses--Iowans had no way to verify that the Iowa Democratic Party numbers for their own precincts--were accurate. Iowans caught several errors--are we supposed to believe that that was it? Everything else was reported accurately?

It's a sham. A complete sham. That PDF is STILL not visible on the IDP website!

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9. I remember all of this exactly.

My wife actually asked this question, is the head of the Nevada DNC in Hillary's favor as much as Andy was?

[CoffeeCat]

10. It doesn't appear that there is an "Andy McGuire" in NV

I looked her up, because I was curious (and concerned).

It actually looks not that bad, from the Nevada Dem Party standpoint. However, that doesn't mean that they won't try their dirty tricks.
I've come to the conclusion that HRC and her campaign does not know how to run an honest campaign.

Video of Clinton higher ups training minions to commit fraud in Nevada. Caught on video.

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[Fawke Em]

11. The campaign is countering.

A group of Bernie Sanders supporters launched a vigorous campaign calling on the candidate’s fans to film the Nevada caucuses—to protect against anyone stealing a victory from Sanders.

The initiative, appropriately called “Film the Caucus,” appears to have officially launched this week. The first Facebook posts and Youtube videos, which show alleged improprieties from the Iowa caucus, in which Sanders lost to Clinton by a hair, were published on Wednesday, Vocativ discovered.

The idea is to gather “an indisputable record” of proceedings using tools including a Google Form for volunteers, a Facebook page and a Youtube channel, where all videos from Nevada will be posted on Saturday during the caucuses.

http://www.vocativ.com/news/287004/bernie-sanders-film-nevada-primary/

[Punkingal]

12. Blind rage about covers it for me.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. I'm expecting an election theft.

That's why polls are so close. It makes it easier to steal elections.

I'm HOPING millennials show up in droves and makes this a landslide, but anything can happen in a caucus...like drawing the wrong card in a tie.

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