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Interesting yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #1
Five minutes into this artislife Feb 2016 #2
really?? TimeToEvolve Feb 2016 #3
I hadn't seen it all laid out like that artislife Feb 2016 #5
precisely TimeToEvolve Feb 2016 #8
A little over dramatic but I didn't hear anything in there that wasn't true tularetom Feb 2016 #4
hillary rarely makes eye contact with the person she talks to TimeToEvolve Feb 2016 #6
K&R RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #7
K&R Paka Feb 2016 #9
Yup jonjon Feb 2016 #10
And that, folks, is what will be heard non-stop if she is the Dem nominee. bbgrunt Feb 2016 #11
But the DU expects me to support her because she's a dem casperthegm Feb 2016 #12
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
2. Five minutes into this
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

and I had to pause just to say WTF?!

I was young when they were in office, but these names of people and companies and scandals came flooding back. Very interesting to see it all laid out like this.

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
3. really??
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

this is the internet age for crying out loud!! you're using a computer right now! it took me barely 15 minutes to find this, thanks to the internet, truth and knowledge is more available than ever; no need to rely on TV and other forms of MSM with all of their distortions and such.

to see people TODAY choosing to be willfully ignorant and clinging to mainstream lies when better info is more available than ever is a sign of intellectual laziness and complacency.

since I was young I've always resented the Pukes, and I though of is as a simple dichotomy: repuke vs dem, but as l learned more, i realized that such a dilemma is FALSE.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/False_dichotomy

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
5. I hadn't seen it all laid out like that
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

My disdain for her is from her time running against Obama and her time as SoS. That is enough for me. I voted for Bill as I was raised in a Democratic family and then went on to college and working in the off hours. I took the earlier stuff as RW scandals and politics. I wanted to believe in them.

Then she ran against Obama. I was an early Obama supporter but still willing to hear her and her supporters out. Then I got educated by angry White Feminists who told me that being Latina didn't matter anywhere near being a woman did and that I was a pile of crap because I was excited to see a PoC with a chance. Add in the weeks up to Super Tuesday and that was the end of any allegiance I had felt for either of them.

I woke up from being a good Democrat to actually becoming involved.

I see who she is, I just hadn't paid attention with a critical eye or ear. I wanted to believe then that it was just those evil republicans doing mean things to poor bill and hill.

Lets face it, killing thousands and toppling governments is worse than money making schemes.

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
8. precisely
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

what is in that vid is only the tip of the iceberg of hillary's criminal past.
sure, Bernie made lts of mistakes lately, but his past is nowhere near as atrocious.

hillary is a psychopath.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. A little over dramatic but I didn't hear anything in there that wasn't true
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:27 PM
Feb 2016

And I'm not ready for four more years of this crap

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
6. hillary rarely makes eye contact with the person she talks to
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

and pussyfoots around the question asked; then belittles her opponent with some meaningless roundabout malarkey.
that outright disrespect and dishonesty should be obvious to anyone.

it will be a lot worse than 4 more years of crap. the Earth is warming more rapidly than climatologists initially suspected; and Pro-TPP hillary will simply ring the dinner bell for the international corporate predators who elected her, to feast at our expense, who will basically eat it (not the feast though). the fate of the whole Biosphere and therefore our fate depends on this!

the environment is the most important issue today, and hillary was never an environmentally conscious president, only good for the occasional lip service.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
12. But the DU expects me to support her because she's a dem
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

I mentioned in an earlier post(that got banned) that I couldn't see myself supporting her in the GE due to her terrible decisions, her flip flops, and her current investigation, unless she addresses these things and somehow earns my vote. Of course I can't stand the republicans, but at the same time, Bernie has opened my eyes to how things can be and should be.

Voting for the lesser of two evils, just to support the Democratic party on principal is selling out my principals. I will be voting based on the candidate and that candidate's credentials, rather than blindly following party lines from now on. That most likely will mean voting democrat, but I will also be looking at independents whose views are similar to those of the democratic party (but less likely to be part of the status quo and Wall Street machine). After this election I am strongly considering re-registering as an independent. As I said, a similar comment got my post banned, but I honestly don't believe that we should just have blind loyalty to a candidate (who may be corrupt) just because of party affiliation. That just seems wrong. I hope that the Democratic party comes back to us, because as someone else mentioned, I feel like the party left me, rather than me leaving the party.

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