Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSelective Outrage? No! This is at least the Second Time Hillary Has Been Dismissive of #BLM
So, some folks are accusing Bernie Sanders Supporters of "Selective Outrage" as it relates to Ashley Williams and Clinton Handlers Throwing Ms. Williams out of an Fundraising Event SHE PAID $500.00 to be at.
Reason being, they are saying (or trying to spin) Bernie Supporters were outraged when Marissa Alexander jumped on Stage in Seattle to interrupt the Candidate at open and free event.
We were. Let's get that out of the way right now. WE CAN CALL OUT OURSELVES.
Why so? Because we wanted to make sure BOTH SIDES (or at that time ALL THREE CANDIDATES) would be treated in a similar fashion by #BLM.
Bernie And Hillary -- and then O' Malley Too. Not just One -- All of Them if the Message BLM was trying to assert was real.
Now They Have.
Let us remember...this is the SECOND Time Hillary Has Been Dismissive Of BLM Protesters.
Yet, somehow the Hillary Supporters Seem To Forget About That Fact.
The First Time Her "Dismissive Nature" Got A Pass As She "Meet With Some BLM Activists" Afterwards and Still Had Snark -- But Was "Credited" for Meeting With Them.
Now MONTHS LATER -- She Brings the Snark Again and Had "Secret Service" Throw Ashley Williams Out of the $500 Per Plate Fundraiser.
Are you dismissing the fact Ms. Williams PAID to be there and ANSWER her question and expected an ANSWER for her DONATION?
Again, please fact check us. We for sure called out Marissa Alexander and after the Seattle Incident. Yes, we did. BUT...what was different between Hillary February 2016 and Bernie July 2015 with BLM...
1. Bernie Let Them Speak.
2. Bernie Stepped Back From The Mic.
3. Bernie Met With Them Directly After to Address Their Concerns
4. Bernie Has REPEATEDLY Met With BLM Since
5. When Bernie Came to Michigan (Eastern Michigan University to be exact -- with 10K in Attendance on a COLD 28 degree February day with a 3 mile long line that waited upwards of 4 hours to get in) Bernie mentioned the Flint Water Crisis and Said He Met with the Flint Families Impacted (7 of them) BUT Guess What Bernie Did NOT Do....
6. He NEVER POINTED OUT WHO HE MET WITH. Nor did he Parade Them On the Stage. How Do We Know? First -- We Were There. Second - We Know WHO THEY ARE. Third - We Were In The Press Box And Saw The Families Walk Out (Again we know who they are) watch Bernie Speech and NEVER had to be put on Show or Blast -- To "Get Bernie Votes"....
7. Unlike what happened at the Town Hall in South Carolina just days ago WHEN Hillary Clinton had the Mother's of Murdered African-American Men STAND UP -- in fact she told them too -- during the Town Hall for votes. WHY? Was this necessary? NO!!
So, Ashley Williams questions should have been answered and she should have had an opportunity to speak. She was not rude, she WAITED for Hillary to respond -- she did not interrupt - and she PAID to be there.
Marissa Alexander did interrupt the Bernie Event and we called her out for that -- but SHE DID GET HER QUESTION ANSWERED and Bernie has continued to answer BLM questions without any Snark, since.
That is the difference.
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peacebird
(14,195 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)I'm tired of being taken for granted.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And the key is MONTHS LATER after meeting with BLM and meeting with them in private -- Hillary Clinton has STILL not learned a lesson yet on how to let BLM members speak without being dismissive or worst - throwing them out of a event they PAID to be at.
There is no Firewall as our votes are to be earned, not given out like cotton candy. Actions, not words mean everything in 2016!
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)really didn't have to appear hardly anywhere except on TV ads.
I have a feeling the old rules are not working anymore.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)First time was the meeting you cite.
Second time was when she had them thrown out of a rally in Atlanta.
Third time was last night.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)I thought it was at least one other time but I was not totally sure. Much appreciated
eridani
(51,907 posts)--who happened to be on stage let them speak. Sanders was willing to wait until they finished, but had to leave for another event between the SSW rally and the big Sanders rally at UW in the evening.
The addition of Sanders to the agenda was a very last minute thing. Our printed flyers didn't include him because the campaign response to our request was last minute.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Do You know where you are at. This is the Bernie Group.
eridani
(51,907 posts)I stand by the decision of the organizers on stage. Sanders did exactly the appropriate thing in leaving it up to them. You know what? It works exactly the same way in reverse when the Hillarians point to this as an example of racist Bernibros and a candidate who just isn't "decisive" enough to be president. Check out the garbage they were spewing last August if you don't believe me. Mischaracterization just adds fuel to their fires, so we shouldn't do it.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)It was totally rude and dismissive.