Just curious...is SC completely out of the question?

[Ned_Devine]

I mean, I keep hearing that HRC has a huge lead, but I have trouble believing it.

[retrowire]

1. I'm consistently living in the "anything can happen" land.

That and I haven't been paying attention to polls or the MSM lately. Just volunteering and waiting to cast my vote.

[merrily]

4. Thank you for all you do, retrowire. I especially love your enthusiasm and spirit.

[retrowire]

5. lol, I'm technically made of enthusiasm and spirit.

It's sickening sometimes, but I've got folks like you to tell me that it's just fine! Thank you!

[merrily]

6. You're welcome. Any time, retrowire, any time! Hold your head high.

Your spirit and enthusiasm, and resourcefulness have accomplished a lot, including for your wife's family and keeping up the spirits of your fellow Bernie supporters.

You're fantastic! Your wife as well, as far as I can tell from what you've posted about her. I can't express how much happiness I wish you both.

[retrowire]

7. :D You're terrific! *hugs* nt

[bernbabe]

2. Never say never, but

personally I'm just hoping Bernie can lose by less than 20.

[winter is coming]

13. ^^ This. n/t

[werknotgoin2takeit]

38. Me too!

That for me will be the benchmark. I want him to lose by less than she did in NH. I'll be marching for Bernie tomorrow so won't have too much time for fretting at the TV.

[merrily]

3. I think so. I don't think anyone ever expected him to win it. Then again, no one expected

him to tie Iowa, even with all the shenanigans.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/caucus/2016/02/03/editorial-something-smells-democratic-party/79777580/

I think a poll was posted here the morning of the caucuses showing her five points ahead of him.


No one expected him to come that close in Nevada, either, even with all the shenanigans.

But, no, I don't see him winning South Carolina, even at that.

[davidpdx]

9. I agree

If he can limit her win to under 10% that would be quite a boost. The pledged delegate count would remain fairly close.

[jillan]

8. Ya - I think so. I heard Hillary is running ads non-stop there and Bernie is not.

There's been some really devastating numbers for Bernie coming out of SC.

[Ned_Devine]

10. She does well in states gems never win in the GE...odd

[SoLeftIAmRight]

11. every ad she runs = wall st money = more she owes them

lots of quid - for all the quo

[malokvale77]

14. OK...

but why spend so much money to run ads non-stop if she's got it in the bag?

[jillan]

16. I asked that question the other day & people were telling me to gotv.

Don't get your hopes up. If Bernie loses by no more than 20 pts, that will be a relief.

[malokvale77]

18. I'm not worried about Bernie in SC.

For the Hillary campaign to spend so much $ there to GOTV is ludicrous. SC is as red as they come.

Same thing in Texas. It makes no sense.

[Waltons_Mtn]

22. If she doesn't win by 50 percentage points it will be a win for Bernie.

A huge lead blown by HCR. The HCR group is already counting the delegates, claimed the nomination and moved on to fight Trump.

[Nyan]

19. Going for the big win, perhaps. Because that might break the spirit for some Bernie supporters.

If she wins by more than 20%, then the media would be all over it -that it's over for Bernie. But of course, we know that's not true, he's doing very well in many of the upcoming states. And he's got the money to run a winning campaign.
And you know, she may win pretty big in SC. But I don't think that BLM protester video will do her any good with AA voters going into other primaries. The MSM seem to be doing their best to suppress it for now because SC primary's upon us, but it's not gonna go away. Just like those transcripts.

[malokvale77]

20. Nope, none of it is going away.

I'm an old women, ashamed of the effort I spent defending the Clinton's.

I'm done with them. I'm done with the Party if that's where they continue to go.

[The Redheaded Guy]

25. I would be very surprised if Ashley Williams helps Bernie win SC

with that viral video.

Even if it is a narrow win, it is a HUGE loss for Clinton.

[TM99]

12. After the today with the viral video

from Ashley Williams, the hot trending hastags on social media concerning this, and an endorsement from the Blacks in Law Enforcement in America, I am beginning to believe that it may not be out of the question.

[malokvale77]

15. See my post #14 above.

I don't think it is so cut and dried.

[Duckfan]

17. It will still be a "burn" for her if Bernie is within 5 percentage points.

Even 3.

I feel much has changed in the past week. I get feeling SC will be close.

[jfern]

21. Yes, but every vote counts towards delegates

So the better he can do, the more delegates.

[Robbins]

23. yes

it's only getting close that bernie can win.if he can get the margain down to 10% that's a victory.

[Waltons_Mtn]

24. The 50 point lead HRC group is spouting off about.

Is a poll of 650 likely Democratic voters.

The Palmetto Poll surveyed voters statewide. The sample was of 650 voters who said they were voting in the upcoming primary. To be included in the poll a person had to have voted in two of the past three statewide primary elections. Our cell phone percentage was just under 20 percent for this survey. Calling began on February 20 and concluded on February 25. The error estimate is plus or minus 3 points for a survey of this size. All respondents were asked if they were going to vote in the upcoming Democratic primary, and were only included if they said they were voting.

Must have voted in 2 of the last 3 statewide primaries and 80%+ with landline phones. If you are looking to survey an older crowd, there you go. She always does well with the older crowds.

Just numbers to dishearten the Bernie crowd. Not real demographic of the state.

[Fawke Em]

27. South Carolina is an open primary state.

Is a "likely Democratic voter" in this poll registered Democrats? Because, if so, then this poll is shit.

[Waltons_Mtn]

28. Here is the link to the Clemson Poll.

http://newsstand.clemson.edu/mediarelations/clemson-university-palmetto-poll-democratic-primary-summary/

[HooptieWagon]

29. Agreed.

The poll is excluding young voters, and Independants who support Sanders.

[Waltons_Mtn]

31. I can't wait to see all of the "Hillary blows another big lead" posts.

I know I will be posting it.

[ladjf]

26. The S.C. situation , as it has been reported, doesn't make much sense.

I've always thought that AA were good at spotting phonies. I don't know why they seem to think that Hillary is real and will actually accomplish things for them.

[thereismore]

30. Let me know if and when you trtuly understand

why that is. I also thought black people can't be bamboozled.

[ladjf]

32. I've got some theories. But, none are solid enough to present to DU. nt

[thereismore]

33. PM me if you like. nt

[TTUBatfan2008]

34. The polling is not good for Sanders.

He's down by huge numbers in South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Maryland, New Jersey, etc. Doesn't seem he has a path to the nomination, but I think he should keep going as long as he has the money to do so. He brings very important dialogue to the national discussion, even as the mainstream media tries to ignore him.

[SoapBox]

35. And the Ashley Williams letter...

How can people ignore stuff like this...she puts it down in print, clearly and concisely.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511340083

[Zorra]

36. The south is very conservative, and a tough gig for Democrats nowadays. nt

[TBF]

37. If I learned anything growing up in Wisconsin (where Vince Lombardi coached) -

it is that you never, ever, ever give up. Ever.

You meet, you put up signs, you call, you go door to door. Yes, SC and Texas are long shots. SC with AA vote, Texas with AA and Latino votes. But Bernie is smashing conventional wisdom and folks are showing us that they are individuals capable of making up their own minds. We'll see how it all shakes out.

Worst case - it's what we expect in these so-called "SEC" states, we all send in a few more small donations, and Bernie moves on to the states where he's more favored.

[JudyM]

39. Believe it, and same for most Super Tuesday states. Bernie needs more volunteers now!

Anyone, even without experience, can volunteer even for just 2 or 3 hours.

The absolute most critical thing we can do is get out the damned vote, and the campaigns in each state have done the work to ID voters they need to contact for Election Day.

This can't be overstated. These are proportional assignments of delegates, not winner take all, so every vote counts.

We.need.your.help

Please, all DUers reading this, go onto berniesanders.com and sign up to help, or even just show up at your local Bernie campaign office. Or PM me if you have questions.

We.need.your.help
(Please consider it if you care about his chances)

[Gore1FL]

40. Clinton is expected to win SC and considers it a firewall

If Sanders over-performs there, even if he does not win it, he will maintain (or increase) his current momentum (See also IA and NV).

Super Tuesday has some hurdles, too. The same applies in many of those states.

If he makes through those without losing too much momentum, we'll get to states he should have a better time in.

[LongTomH]

41. You'll be better off volunteering for Bernie in your state than watching SC returns

Volunteering (canvassing, phone banking, etc) helps keep your spirits up as well as helping Bernie win.

I would also recommend staying out of GD-P this weekend. The gloating by HRC supporters will be unendurable!

[Arazi]

42. Yes eom